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As The 'Un-Candidate,' Palin Tests GOP Patience
NPR (We pay for it, so we might as well read some of it) ^ | September 21, 2011

Posted on 09/21/2011 7:40:08 AM PDT by cc2k

A supporter holds up a sign as former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin speaks during the Tea Party of America's "Restoring America" event at the Indianola Balloon Festival Grounds in Indianola, Iowa.

September 21, 2011

Author Joe McGinniss has been out this week promoting his new book about Sarah Palin — a book widely condemned for gossipy allegations by anonymous sources. The book is getting attention in part because Palin might be running for president.

This summer, Palin certainly looked like a presidential candidate as she rode through Iowa and New Hampshire in a red-white-and-blue bus, but as time ticks away the pressure is building on Palin to make her candidacy official.


... The race is absolutely wide open — it remains wide open.

- Peter Singleton, Organize4Palin

Technically, Palin can put off becoming a formal candidate for at least another month or so. The first registration deadline to get on a primary ballot isn't until Oct. 31 in Florida. After that, the deadlines come quickly in important states like South Carolina and New Hampshire. But when it comes to the earliest test for candidates, the Iowa caucuses, there is no formal registration.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
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To: kevkrom

So, if Michele Bachman received $30,000 from American Crystal Sugar, and American Crystal Sugar is in a labor dispute, and Bachmann then votes in favor of the right-to-work law, what would you say?

Cronyism, or not cronyism, or in that cloudy gray area?


41 posted on 09/21/2011 9:58:18 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: All; cc2k
By her own public end of Sept deadline, she has about eight days to announce a decision.

The final Sept. debate is tomorrow in FL (on FOX News).

42 posted on 09/21/2011 10:02:47 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
yefragetuwrabrumuy wrote:
I suspect that she is not running for President, but is instead running for Vice President. This means that she can hassle the Democrats, help keep the Tea Party pot stirred up, *not* attack any of the candidates for President, but still be an effective kingmaker. And by playing it coy, she has even managed to evade the “endorsement” trap.
I'm not buying that line of thinking either.

If you think TEA Partiers will vote for Romney because Palin is on the ticket, I think you'll be amazed at how disappointed you'll be. If the Ruling Class leadership tries to pull that, they will lose. I actually don't expect that Palin will play along with that.

I'm pretty well convinced that if she were going to announce she was not running, the window for that has already closed. That was around the first of August. She hasn't stopped any of her supporters, and she wouldn't string them along this far if she weren't running. At this point, it's just a question of when she makes it official.

She is being smart, I think, keeping her powder dry in the early going and not "peaking" too early.

I think it will shake out as Palin v. Romney for the nomination. Romney = 4 more years of socialism. Probably, he loses to Obama. Even if he wins, he won't turn this country around.

Palin could be a revolutionary change in direction. Or she could get shut down by the ruling class of both parties closing ranks and opposing her. I think she has the strength to fight to win.

43 posted on 09/21/2011 10:07:16 AM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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To: xzins
Hypotheticals have lots of loopholes.

In this particular example, someone could level a cronyism charge, but it would be a weak accusation under normal circumstances, since the benefit is not tied to a specific company.

However closer scrutiny would be warranted if Bachmann, or a relative or friend of hers, had a financial interest in American Crystal Sugar, or if Bachmann's public record would lead one to reasonably believe that she would have not voted for the bill in a typical case.

If, on the other hand, she's consistently in favor of right to work laws, then the donation really didn't have any undue influence on her vote.

44 posted on 09/21/2011 10:21:15 AM PDT by kevkrom (This space for rent.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; cc2k

>>> Screw the GOP! It has shown NO loyalty to Sarah, period, and so she owes the party nothing.

And the Tea Party isn’t too thrilled with her either per the new McClatchy-Marist poll that oddly enough is being waved around as such good news for Sarah. Patience seems to be exhausted totally.

“” By 72 percent to 24 percent, Republicans and Republican-leaning independents do not want Palin to run for president in 2012. Even among tea party supporters - a group that likes Palin - 68 percent do not want her to run.

In contrast, even Giuliani is more favorably received. By only 58 percent to 32 percent, Republican voters do not want Giuliani , who ran and lost in 2008, to run in 2012.


45 posted on 09/21/2011 10:22:30 AM PDT by tlb
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To: kevkrom

First, it’s not a hypothetical. Bachman received the 30 grand and did vote for the right-to-work law.

As you say, the question is whether she would have voted differently.

That question doesn’t address whether a candidate has continuously been influenced by the same group/kind of groups so that it simply looks like a standard voting pattern. It could simply mean she’s an “employee” and not a “new purchase.” If Michael Corleone takes you out, it doesn’t matter if it was with a new hit man or Luca Brasi who had been on the payroll for years.

Personally, I like right-to-work laws, but that’s beside the point.

The point is about appearances.


46 posted on 09/21/2011 10:27:19 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: onyx

Run Sarah, run!


47 posted on 09/21/2011 10:30:20 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy; All

“First of all, I suspect that she is not running for President, but is instead running for Vice President.”

Sarah has been there already, and has already done that. I don’t think she will ever be anyone’s second banana again. Either she will fully run for the office of POTUS or she will not run at all. She isn’t after being VP.


48 posted on 09/21/2011 10:37:11 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: newzjunkey
By her own public end of Sept deadline, she has about eight days to announce a decision.

Actually, there are two canonical stories about her deadline. The Hannity interview focused on September, but the Brody interview allowed for October. And in both cases, IIRC, the phrasing was "a candidate should," not "I will..." So realistically, she could go all the way out to that October 11 deal in Korea and still not have announced. I think she's waiting out the Rovian Dark Horse, whoever that might be. Mid-October is about it, though. Ballot signatures and all that. Too many delegates at risk in some of those legwork states.

49 posted on 09/21/2011 10:45:45 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: All

The New Marist Poll showing Gov. Palin within 5 pts of Obama is stunning.

She is not even running yet and people want Change Now.

Why not Palin, who can transform the country?

I think Palin has played the system like a violin up to this point. But she has to really really really think about the window for getting in. Soon, deadlines will be hitting for running in certain states.


50 posted on 09/21/2011 11:27:46 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Beware of PaulBots tearing down good conservatives - they are deceptive weasels.)
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To: tlb

Did the poll ask why they didn’t want her to run? That could be significant. If they don’t want her to run because they don’t think she’s qualified but will suck all the air out of the room or because they know what a target she is already and don’t wish that kind of vicious vitriol piled higher than it already is. Maybe they don’t want her voice to be tempered by the political gymnastics of a campaign.

How many would have answered the same about the current field before they got in? I’d imagine most of Texas wouldn’t want Perry to run since he told them if they reelected him he wouldn’t do so. But it was still his choice and I’m sure he made it in good conscience. I wouldn’t presume to think he did it on a whim because he knows how high the stakes are. How many would’ve not wanted Romney or Bachmann or?

It’s really an inconsequential question anyway because they’re speculating on a hypothetical and it’s not up to them. If she chooses to get in those 58% can choose to vote for someone else. Problem solved.

Cindie


51 posted on 09/21/2011 11:35:59 AM PDT by gardencatz (Proud mom US Marine! It can't always be someone else's son.)
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To: gardencatz
I think that other 58% has already decided on another candidate and that is the reason they don't want her to get in...
52 posted on 09/21/2011 11:39:07 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Then it shouldn’t matter if she gets in or not since she’s already lost if 58% don’t want her to get in and won’t vote for her if she does enter the race.

Cindie


53 posted on 09/21/2011 11:44:05 AM PDT by gardencatz (Proud mom US Marine! It can't always be someone else's son.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

“Screw the GOP! It has shown NO loyalty to Sarah, period, and so she owes the party nothing. She’ll announce when she’s ready and not when the party wants her to.”

Reagan didn’t annouce until October.

I hope she has security at her victory parties with orders to stop any RINO scum who try to get in, beat the crap out of them, and thwow them in the gutter—vewy woughly.


54 posted on 09/21/2011 12:05:07 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: gardencatz

“I’m sure he made it in good conscience”

How does one renege on a promise in good conscience?


55 posted on 09/21/2011 12:09:03 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Springfield Reformer
IMHIO, the most interesting development yesterday was the release of the Marist poll. It chips away at the “unelectable” narrative that I believe has been a psychological stumbling block to people supporting Governor Palin. People want to be seen supporting a winner. Many have been convinced that she can't win, so they have moved on to their sloppy second.

I also think her "decision" is now poll driven. Say she is waiting for polls to align in a certain way before "making a decision". It gives her a measure of plausible deniability which she may need later should a stink be made over Fox News and in kind contributions.

56 posted on 09/21/2011 12:12:19 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: dsc
How does one renege on a promise in good conscience?

Maybe he made it with his fingers crossed...

57 posted on 09/21/2011 12:28:30 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: JaguarXKE
“circling the bowl” LOL


58 posted on 09/21/2011 1:25:41 PM PDT by lonevoice (The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers, impeach we much)
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To: Springfield Reformer; newzjunkey
By her own public end of Sept deadline, she has about eight days to announce a decision. .... newzjunkey

Actually, there are two canonical stories about her deadline. The Hannity interview focused on September, but the Brody interview allowed for October. ...... Springfield Reformer

Now there are three. The latest Hannity interview allows for November.

Alaska Dispatch | Sep 21, 2011: Palin on Hannity: no 2012 decision yet, maybe by Nov.

And the tease goes on, the tease goes on
Drums keep pounding rhythm to the brain
La de da de de, la de da de da

59 posted on 09/21/2011 2:51:00 PM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama is Priority Number One)
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To: cc2k

SCREW THE GOP.....

They have done nothing but screw the American people these past few decades.

Go get em’ Sarah!

Make em’ squeal like the pigs that they are.


60 posted on 09/21/2011 3:35:05 PM PDT by LastDayz (Something to ponder: Why is the Bible allowed in the Prison system but not the School system?)
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