Posted on 09/22/2011 8:06:48 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
As soon as they cross the border, they are illegal. Period. That’s the FIRST and ONLY law that matters.
Prosecute and deport.
Then all the Dream acts medical care and ‘rights’ issues are not a problem. Because they are not here for it to BE a problem.
Please find fault with that logic.
I’ve been watching Border wars on Natl geographic..They are returned and come again and it goes on and on..We are detaining at our expense..Obama cancelled deportations..Perry sent a big bill ..Let’s see if Texas is stuck with the tab again.
This is a decades old problem.
“As soon as they cross the border, they are illegal. Period. That’s the FIRST and ONLY law that matters.
Prosecute and deport.
Then all the Dream acts medical care and ‘rights’ issues are not a problem. Because they are not here for it to BE a problem.
Please find fault with that logic.”
Why the heck are you arguing with me for on something I agree with you about? Geez, haven’t you read my posts? I’m totally against illegal aliens, the Dream Act, tuition, etc., so why would I find fault with “that logic”? Geez, are you reading someone else’s posts and thinking it me? Put your specs on.
“Just how do you plan on keeping them out of school.”
Long night. I apologize for misunderstanding your intent.
Yup and that’s why doing the same thing over and over will only get more of the same. We gotta build that fence and back it with BP that isn’t hamstrung by BS regs. For starters.
Or just adopt Mexico’s own immigration/border enforcement policy on their southern border.
“Long night. I apologize for misunderstanding your intent.”
Apology accepted, lol. It has been a long nite. Probably time for a bit of shut eye. Start afresh in the a.m. Will be interesting to hear how the MSM, blogs, radio programs, etc. spin the debate from tonite. Look forward to hearing the “reviews”. Nitey nite.
Meanwhile, walk over the border, have no residency and get free K-12 and reduced rate college. WTH?
FUMR!! I wouldn’t support that abortionist statist bastard if he was the last Republican on earth!! There will be NO Romney campaign on FR!! Period!! You can go elsewhere if you wish to support that rotten RINO bastard!!
Perry is dead wrong, they are not a burden upon our society they are a burned upon whatever society they come from.
To allow them to become a burden on our society by not only allowing them to stay here but granting them state “entitlements”(like education) is an injustice to we the Tax payers and legal citizens of theses United states.
There obviously is nothing against the law about what Texas is doing. Otherwise, opponents could sue them over it.
There is no Texan family that was going to get in-state tuition rates that is now not going to get those rates because of those children without a country. There is no reason that any out-of-state student should ever have expected to get in-state rates.
I submit YOU are wrong. The Supremes if they haven’t already will rule in favor of College for children of illegals. Especially if they have been residents of a state for 3 years AND applied for Citizenship. Anyone who doesn’t understand that is smoking funny cigs.
Here is the decision that influenced problems you all would like to blame Perry for:
The Supreme Court decision in the Plyler case was a 5-4 split in favor of illegal alien children. The debate over the issues ran deep among the justices. Even the justices of the majority who agreed on the final decision had different reasons. Together, the concurring (agreeing with the decision) and dissenting (disagreeing with the decision) opinions provided a powerful look into the justices’ beliefs about the importance of public education in American society.
Justice William J. Brennan, Jr., writing for the majority, identified that “the question presented . . . is whether, consistent [carrying out the intention of] with the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, Texas may deny to undocumented school-age children the free public education that it provides to children who are citizens of the United States or legally admitted aliens.”
The school board argued that equal protection did not apply to those who entered the country illegally. The Court rejected their argument by emphasizing the decision of Yick Wo which declared all persons “within its [a government’s] jurisdiction” came under Fourteenth Amendment protection. Deciding that illegal aliens came under the Equal Protection Clause was easy. The more difficult question was if Texas law violated equal protection.
A “Pivotal Role”
In arriving at their decision, the justices addressed the relationship between public education, the U.S. Constitution, and the importance of public education in American social order. Justice Brennan affirmed that education was not a right granted by the Constitution but added that education was more than “merely some government ‘benefit’ indistinguishable [cannot tell the difference] from other forms of social welfare legislation.” Education was different because it plays a “fundamental” or “pivotal role” in maintaining our society. He added, “we cannot ignore the significant social costs borne by our Nation when select groups are denied the means to absorb the values and skills upon which our social order rests.” Denial of a free public education to the children of illegal aliens places a lifetime hardship on them, for “illiteracy (inability to read) will mark them for the rest of their lives.” Brennan found no reason for a state to cause such hardship on any individual. For these reasons the Court concluded the Equal Protection Clause required the Texas law be struck down.
May I suggest you think about the above decision and understand exactly what the Supremes have done.
THANK YOU JR.
“no one wants to keep these kids from an education”
Well, if you mean an education in Mexico, that’s right. And, assuming that we won’t deport them, an education they pay for in the US might be OK.
But at a taxpayer-funded school? Forget it.
FU, RP.
May I suggest you think about the above decision and understand exactly what the Supremes have done.
This does not apply on the College level, either for U.S. citizens or for illegals. No one can make an institution of higher learning accept an illegal student. I worked for 25 years at a state public university, and I knew all about hiring and immigration law as part of my duties. Don’t tell me how universities have to accept illegals; it isn’t true and you can’t make it so by simply stating it. You are talking out of your hat.
I guess you have never heard of affirmative action. Oh yes they can and they have.
I guess you have never heard of affirmative action. Oh yes they can and they have.
We are talking about illegals here. Affirmative action does not apply. You haven’t a clue what you are talking about. I do. No I-9 form, no acceptance to the university, unless you have forged docs, or the university is cheating on applications.
Perry has to get out now! He is taking the Heat instead of that Putz Romney. Perry get out so the Heat can be put on the Biggest Flip Flopper in the Race. For Crying out loud even the Idiots on Luntzs focus Group are switching to that idiot Stooge Romney. What a Freakin Disaster this Perry has turned out to be,He tries to attack Romney and he cant even spit the words out,just what we dont need anothe Guy who cant put more than two words together,he is making romney look like Ronald Reagan,what a Diaster
Oh, get real. You have no idea what Palin would do in a similar situation. Her position on illegals is very similar to Perry’s.
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