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Perry: "I Don't Think You Have a Heart" If You Oppose In-State Tuition for Children of Illegal
weeklystandard ^ | Thursday September 22, 2011 | JOHN MCCORMACK

Posted on 09/22/2011 8:06:48 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

Full title: Perry: "I Don't Think You Have a Heart" If You Oppose In-State Tuition for Children of Illegal Immigrants

Perry's response was forceful and personal. "I don't think you have a heart," Perry told his critics.

"If you say that we should not educate children who come into our state for no other reason than that they've been brought their through no fault of their own, I don't think you have a heart," Perry said. "We need to be educating these children because they will become a drag on our society. I think that's what Texans wanted to do. Out of 181 members of the Texas legislature when this issue came up [there were] only four dissenting votes. This was a state issue. Texas voted on it. And I still support it today."

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To: DJ MacWoW

I find that immigration is an even more powerful litmus test than gays or healhcare when it comes to seeing who will fold like a cheap chair to Liberalism. I.e, we’re in trouble here.

We desperately need a real conservative to step up their game.


501 posted on 09/23/2011 8:44:05 AM PDT by globelamp
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To: SideoutFred; gaijin; Jim Robinson

Romney IS Obama, just paler. A vote for Romney is a vote for Obama II.

Although, I will say Romney is a better liar.


502 posted on 09/23/2011 8:46:26 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: zeugma

BINGO!!!


503 posted on 09/23/2011 8:47:38 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: globelamp
We desperately need a real conservative to step up their game.

Yes we do.

504 posted on 09/23/2011 8:48:50 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: EyeGuy; djf

And globalists/one worlders/NAU-ers.


505 posted on 09/23/2011 8:50:20 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: reaganaut; P-Marlowe; roses of sharon; xzins; wmfights; mrreaganaut
...I spent years listening to the local news and police scanners in So Cal. Well over 90% of the criminals on the crime report and the calls on the scanner were about 14-23 yr old illegal Mexicans.

It really is wrong to lump all in with a part of a group. Illegal immigrants can be easily identified in one of thee sub groups. There are those that cross the border to conduct criminal activities. There are those that cross the border to game the system and get a free ride. There are those that come over for work and to send money home to their families. The children brought over are no different, Some of these children become criminals. Some of these children look to game the system and get a free ride. Some of these children work hard in school, stay out of trouble and seek to better themselves.

If we recognize there is no will to deport these children to countries they have no connection to other than by genetics what do you do about them. I have no problem with locking up criminals. I have no problem denying benefits. I have no problem allowing those that are doing the right things to move forward.

506 posted on 09/23/2011 8:54:38 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: P-Marlowe

How do you know these people? Do they work for you?

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No, I refuse to hire illegals or support/purchase/hire anyone who does. I rescinded a rental agreement when I found out my tenant hires illegal aliens. And I reported him. Zero tolerance towards that.

I know them because I lived surrounded by them for over 6 years (husband’s grandmother’s house). I know them because my mother lives surrounded by them. I know them because I went to school with them.

A gang of illegals moved into the house next door (elderly man)under the guise of taking care of him. He went to a nursing home shortly thereafter and they squatted there until the house was taken for back taxes. They also trashed the house and set fire to it as they left. They then moved across the street to another house whose owner just died. They lived there until the house was foreclosed on. Then they moved a block away to another winter house, they burned that down as they left.

And that is just ONE group/family. I know several others who do or have done the same thing. They even brag about it and there are info sheets on how to find houses to squat in.


507 posted on 09/23/2011 8:54:44 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: MamaB
I started researching this guy when he first announced and nothing I found told me to support him. ....

As any good and smart citizen should do. Thank you for doing your civic duty and educate yourself about the candidates and see for YOURSELF what their record is and not just take the word of campaign hacks and their talking points spin.

508 posted on 09/23/2011 8:55:31 AM PDT by Ron H. (Loving my Deering Goodtime 2 Classic 5-stringer)
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To: Bigtigermike

He jumped 2 sharks last night.


509 posted on 09/23/2011 8:56:49 AM PDT by montyspython (This thread needs more cowbell)
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To: reaganaut
BTW, both of those ‘kids’ were in college.

They should be arrested and deported. Don't blame Texas. Blame Congress and the last 4 or 5 presidents.

510 posted on 09/23/2011 8:57:05 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: monkapotamus

HA HA ROFL

Hey monk they pushing that in state of CA right now boy we Freepers are giving Rick Perry headache we are Activ on of this political landscape ROFL


511 posted on 09/23/2011 9:02:40 AM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: reaganaut

Yikes! Thanks for the info.

Romney... Do. Not. Want.


512 posted on 09/23/2011 9:07:45 AM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: flaglady47; Graybeard58

Nope the Perry isn’t the Savior part.

Romney is either the devil or one of his minions.


513 posted on 09/23/2011 9:08:28 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: P-Marlowe

Do you think the children of illegals should be allowed to pay less tuition than a legal U.S. citizen from out of state? Yes or no?

This is a yes or no question.

You’ve been asked this repeatedly.

Ya see the tag line below?


514 posted on 09/23/2011 9:11:00 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Bigtigermike

That’s just sad...I liked Perry. Hopefully another candidate will shine at the next debate.


515 posted on 09/23/2011 9:11:56 AM PDT by madison10
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To: P-Marlowe; Norm Lenhart

Texas just allows all students who graduate from Texas High Schools to get the in-state tuition rate. I got no problem with that. Sorry.

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And I have a HUGE problem with that. It is rewarding criminal activity.


516 posted on 09/23/2011 9:12:19 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: ReaganBaby26

>>The other nagging thing is, again, one of the most conservative states out there has elected and re-elected this man 4 times! He’s getting something right or he wouldn’t still be around, not in that state.<<

Hmmm. Maybe it has to do with the fact that Texas is filled with Mexicans, is getting fuller every day because of Perry’s pandering and giveaways.

Rush said we CAN’T LOSE TEXAS to illegal immigration, or the country is over. Perry encourages it.

It’s time to face facts.


517 posted on 09/23/2011 9:13:18 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Bush called us "vigilantes." Perry calls us "heartless.")
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To: Ron H.

>>Yes he will call him out BUT to what extent and will he continue to give political cover to Senior Ricardo Perry and his illegal alien loving campaign or will he tell Perry Hasta La Vista baby!?! <<

I agree. Rush has insulted my intelligence somewhat with some of his Perry cheerleading. I know he’s doing it cuz WE GOTTA BEAT OBAMA (which is true).

But DON’T misrepresent, and don’t insult our intelligence. You lose integrity that way.


518 posted on 09/23/2011 9:15:52 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Bush called us "vigilantes." Perry calls us "heartless.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I have to admit, you have no shame whatsoever, still trying to sell us on Hispandering Perry.

Not gonna happen.


519 posted on 09/23/2011 9:18:25 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Bush called us "vigilantes." Perry calls us "heartless.")
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To: P-Marlowe; zeugma; Norm Lenhart

I believe that the law is equally applied to both legal and illegal aliens

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That is the problem. Legal aliens waited, filled out the paperwork, paid the fees, did what they were supposed to do to be here legally.

Illegals shouldn’t be given the same benefits. We shouldn’t reward line cutters.

Both my father and stepfather (both came here legally and both became US citizens the proper way) would be having strokes over this!


520 posted on 09/23/2011 9:21:06 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: 5th MEB

I detest the crap about cheap labor, when I need help on my small farm, I just go to the local high schools 4H club and hire a couple of the local kids who can use some spare money.

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Good for you! I come from a farm family and cash rent several quarters still (neither in CA) and I’m happy to hear that someone in CA still helps the 4H kids. Around here almost all the kids start working for the farms at age 14, it is almost a rite of passage.

We had to settle for cold and icy winters to escape but it was still the best thing we ever did. Life is so much nicer when you don’t have gangs shooting at you.


521 posted on 09/23/2011 9:29:09 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: dragnet2

New tagline.


522 posted on 09/23/2011 9:29:35 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Bush called us "vigilantes." Perry calls us "heartless.")
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To: 5th MEB

There were also Japanese concentration camps here in the US.


523 posted on 09/23/2011 9:30:06 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

You didn’t comment on the first part of my statement. The Texas Supreme Court is not filled with illegal aliens. It’s filled with Americans who live every day of their lives in Texas with the border problem and they passed this bill with only 4 dissenting votes.

The big giveaway this bill allowed effected about 1% of all Texas students enrolled in colleges and universities. This is facing the facts. Read the numbers and the bill. Rush is right. I’m still voting for Perry.


524 posted on 09/23/2011 9:31:19 AM PDT by ReaganBaby26 (Matthew 12:36)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
But DON’T misrepresent, and don’t insult our intelligence. You lose integrity that way.

While El Rushbo is still the best analyst in the business he sometimes also out does himself in that he forgets his role and leave the endorsements to the paid political hacks. He needs to stick with entertaining us and analyzing the current news of the day. I recall how he said he learned his lesson after pimping Bush to get him re-elected to his second term.

He acted like he was used by the Bush camp in his efforts and I agreed that he had been. But he has forgotten that lesson it would seem. Seems even Rush can't be counted on to keep from being suckered and used by the RINO camp once again. Come on Rush, don't be a sap once again. I thought you were smarter than that.

525 posted on 09/23/2011 9:32:53 AM PDT by Ron H. (Loving my Deering Goodtime 2 Classic 5-stringer)
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To: ReaganBaby26

Rush has NOT commented on Perry’s hideous performance last night. I can’t wait.


526 posted on 09/23/2011 9:33:45 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Bush called us "vigilantes." Perry calls us "heartless.")
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To: Marty62

The quote in full was posted up thread. No lies or falsifying. Perry said and he is wrong on all counts and stupid to boot.

BTW, I HATE Romney.


527 posted on 09/23/2011 9:35:22 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

I was saying that your comment about what Rush said was correct. Rush is not on today, it’s Mark Stein.


528 posted on 09/23/2011 9:37:41 AM PDT by ReaganBaby26 (Matthew 12:36)
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To: Ron H.

One of my hobbies is genealogy and I learned not to take what I heard about any ancestor as truth until I found as many sources as possible to back up what I heard. I want to see for myself what the real truth is. Everyone should do this.


529 posted on 09/23/2011 9:38:17 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: MacMattico

If they are illegal themselves, how are they graduating from Texas High Schools? I had to provide so much information just to enroll my daughter in Kindergarten in NY— you’d think Texas would be tougher.

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It’s easy. Most schools (at least in CA) don’t require much paperwork. Also, they look the other way with cases of identity theft.

In California (San Diego Area) buses go ACROSS THE BORDER to pick up kids in Mexico and bus them to be educated here in the US. They aren’t even illegals (they live in Mexico) and they are getting free US education.


530 posted on 09/23/2011 9:39:35 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Bigtigermike
I'm Perry. I think Illegals should get In State tuition...

As long as Perry and any other of the elites want to pay for it out of there own pocket. But not a dime should come out of the taxpayer's money. NOT ONE SINGLE DIME!

531 posted on 09/23/2011 9:40:01 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: MamaB

I agree MamaB. I had a very distorted view of this bill until I started doing my own digging. No I still don’t like the bill in it’s entirety but it is most definitely not the monster I was led to believe.


532 posted on 09/23/2011 9:41:36 AM PDT by ReaganBaby26 (Matthew 12:36)
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To: flaglady47

You assume several things. First that I have an ‘axe to grind’ - no axe I just believe in speaking the truth about them - something they fail to do.

Second, that I hate Romney because he is LDS. No. I hate him because of his liberal policies. However, I don’t TRUST him because he is LDS. Been there done that.

Character matters. You glossed over the other half of my tagline “Now Christian”. I won’t vote for Romney because he has no character, he is not honest. I apply that standard to ALL candidates.


533 posted on 09/23/2011 9:45:52 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: flaglady47

You try escaping a cult that controls your every move and behavior, then lies to you about their history teachings and doctrine. You wouldn’t just let them go their merry way - you would warn others about the group - which is what I do.


534 posted on 09/23/2011 9:48:43 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: xzins
The citizens of the U.S. are not responsible for the mistakes of the parents who brought children here illegally. They have a country of origin and that is where they are citizens. These children can take their hard work and education they received here (illegally) and go back to their native country and apply themselves there and help their fellow countrymen. They are being selfish by remaining in this country illegally and not helping their unfortunate fellow citizens in their native land.
The U.S. is under extreme social and economic stress and we are doing the best we can.
535 posted on 09/23/2011 9:49:30 AM PDT by orinoco
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To: Norm Lenhart

Hell one is even threadspamming his whining that FR/JR is going to get Romney elected!

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And he hasn’t been zotted yet?! Wow, color me surprised.


536 posted on 09/23/2011 9:51:04 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Norm Lenhart; flaglady47

Thanks for the support, Norm.

And yes, I would oppose Romney no matter what his religion, even if he claimed to be Evangelical.

However, since I know more about his religion than most, I have perhaps a bit more insight over why he does what he does and says what he says.


537 posted on 09/23/2011 9:53:37 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Bigtigermike

I was liking parts of what Perry was saying-—but I cannot support this.
Those ‘anchor babies’ are a complete twisting of the meaning of the amendment that they are getting a free pass under.

The costs of going to college are hard enough for those of us who are true citizens. Giving more handouts to illegals only sets up a larger carrot for them.

Palin needs to get into this race so I have someone to vote for.


538 posted on 09/23/2011 9:56:05 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: orinoco
These children can take their hard work and education they received here (illegally) and go back to their native country and apply themselves there and help their fellow countrymen.

That rarely happens with any foreigner....they like the good life here and they have little if any interest in re-building Mexico. Had this been so Mexico would not be the trash heap it is today.

So it's pure lazyness and no interest in building up their country, especially when so many think that Mexico has a right to the southern states and their's to begin with.

539 posted on 09/23/2011 9:58:53 AM PDT by caww
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To: Norm Lenhart; Reagan Man
So you are saying the path to legal citizenship that has been in place since before Ellis Island is Amnesty...got it.

No, that path is followed by people that are not in this country yet. They lived in another county and applied for citizenship, and then when all the paper work and everything is done they got to come to the USA.

This new path to citizenship that some candidates talk about pertains to illegals that are already here and haven't even filled out any of the paper work yet.

am·nes·ty
noun, plural -ties, verb, -tied, -ty·ing. noun
1. a general pardon for offenses, especially political offenses, against a government, often granted before any trial or conviction.
2. Law . an act of forgiveness for past offenses, especially to a class of persons as a whole.
3. a forgetting or overlooking of any past offense. verb (used with object)
4. to grant amnesty to; pardon.

If they are allowed to stay without any repercussions, fines, etc, then it will be AMNESTY.

540 posted on 09/23/2011 10:00:27 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Happy Rain
Well,at least this time he isn’t calling us racists for wanting immigration laws to be enforced.

No, just add it together and you are a heartless racist. ;)

541 posted on 09/23/2011 10:02:47 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Perry’s pandering to illegals makes it so that I will never vote for him in a primary. If he’s the candidate (God forbid) I will have to think very deeply. I am beyond sick of voting for a RINO/nutjob/wimp because it’s either the r/n/w or a Dem.


542 posted on 09/23/2011 10:04:16 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Oh, goody....another “doing the jobs Americans won’t do” guy....


543 posted on 09/23/2011 10:06:37 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Obama's presidency is shovel-ready; let's bury it in 2012!)
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To: caww

You agree with my point that the U.S. citizens, who are under severe economic stress want illegal immigration under control. We have those in this country who feel free to criticize their fellow Americans and call them heartless but they have no comment about the selfishness of the illegals who would not return home to their native country and help their fellow citizens. I think we have a lot of people in this country who just do not understand the stress our country is under economically.


544 posted on 09/23/2011 10:07:09 AM PDT by orinoco
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks, Jim.


545 posted on 09/23/2011 10:14:49 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut; P-Marlowe; zeugma; Norm Lenhart
Illegals shouldn’t be given the same benefits. We shouldn’t reward line cutters.

I wouldn't argue with that. What do you do with the children brought here as minors, or infants?

546 posted on 09/23/2011 10:19:05 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: ridesthemiles
Palin needs to get into this race so I have someone to vote for.

I too like Palin but make no mistake Palin has some baggage when it comes to the illegal alien invasion issue and how to handle the massive problem. She is measurably (or maybe marginally) better than Perry at least on the issue. There are currently no Republican candidates willing to stake out a position that most of of us conservatives want to see which is to enforce the current laws on the books regarding immigration.

Thy all in their own way cater to differing degrees to the illegal alien community and just give varying amounts of lip service to enforcing our laws. But we citizens can still work to hold their feet to the fire and work to keep them in line.

547 posted on 09/23/2011 10:25:39 AM PDT by Ron H. (Loving my Deering Goodtime 2 Classic 5-stringer)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Than why don’t you run? Where is your 10 out 10 pick? And please don’t say Sarah. She is not running.

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I considered it last election. Right now I don’t have anyone I really like. Easier to name those I don’t as nearly every week one of them gets crossed off the list

No, it isn’t Palin - she isn’t running and I doubt she will.

Not Romeny - NEVER!
Not Hunstman
Not Perry
McCotter’s gone
Not Newt (would love to take a class from him but he has shown he is weak in leadership).

Not sure on Bachmann, or Santorum.

I like Cain the best so far, but I don’t think he can get enough traction, sadly.

Who did I miss?


548 posted on 09/23/2011 10:26:31 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

Complete nonsense. Romney is not OBAMA. Absolutely ridiculous.

Romney is calling for tax cuts, Obama for tax increases...how are they the same?

Just because Romney supported health care in a similar fashion to Obama on one issue does not make them the same on all issues. By using your logic, Perry is the same as Obama because they both love the DREAM Act for illegals.

It’s nonsense logic. Romney differs with Obama on almost every major issue, how that equates to them being the same is mind boggling.


549 posted on 09/23/2011 10:31:37 AM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: reaganaut

I will vote for son of sam, Vandersloot, Madoff, Manson, Gein, or menedex\z Bros over Obama.


550 posted on 09/23/2011 10:37:37 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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