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Palin Hints "Unconventional" Landscape May Allow for Post-Nov. Entry
Slate ^ | Sept. 21, 2011 | Josh Voorhees

Posted on 09/22/2011 8:22:52 PM PDT by Clairity

Political logic and election law suggest that anyone hoping to make a serious run for the White House next year will need to be formally in the race by November.

Sarah Palin isn't so sure.

' The former Alaska governor appeared on Sean Hannity’s Fox News show on Tuesday, where she hinted ever so slightly that the current "unconventional" political landscape may allow for a later entry. (At the least, she has already proved that the current landscape has allowed would - be candidates to drag out their decisions much longer than one would expect.)

Here was her response to Hannity's first question about whether she was ready to jump in the race: "There is still time, Sean, and I think on both sides of the aisle you’re going to see people coming and going in this race. ... And I'm still one of those still considering the time factor."

(Excerpt) Read more at slatest.slate.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clairity; enemedia; memebots; palin; palin2012; palinonverge; runsarahrun; sarahpalin
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To: Polybius
Sarah Palin would be totally irrelevant except for the fact that her extremely loyal Fan Club (13% of GOP voters) believes that their mission in life is to throw bottles at any and every GOP candidate in the Arena that is more conservative than Romney whose name is not "Sarah Palin".

Then, what is it that you're doing here with the constant bottles you throw at Palin when she's not even in the running (yet), and why?

Seems to me that if you really believed what you say, you wouldn't even be bothering with the Palin threads.

181 posted on 09/23/2011 9:17:54 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Polybius; All
Your tagline: "Defeating Obama is Priority Number One"

1. From your behavior here, it appears as if YOUR number one priority is demoralizing Palin's supporters. You do it on the pretense that "she's only helping Romney," an interesting scare tactic but one that's as leaky as a sieve this early in the game, as intelligent people understand.

2. Your tagline describes a strategy where the Democrats set the terms of battle. If Obama ends up not getting the nomination, what will "our" number one priority be then? Beating Hillary, as it was at this point in the game in 2007? And what if Hillary ends up getting ousted by a nominee nobody took seriously at first, as she did in 2008 -- what will our "number one priority" be then?

You are playing defense.

From what I've read of Palin's history and tactics, in her book and in countless news stories and internet discussions going back to 2004, she plays OFFENSE. It's her style.

I hope she gets in the race, and I hope she wins the whole thing. But as long as she's undeclared, it's certainly no skin off your nose or that of your favorite candidate -- therefore I really do sense that "thou doest protest too much."

182 posted on 09/23/2011 9:30:16 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Finny
...this guy is an empty plastic cup, and a malevolent one, at that.

Yes he is, and I don't know why that destructive behavior is allowed here. His posts on the Palin threads amount to nothing more than certified trolling, which would get any newcomer banned.

183 posted on 09/23/2011 10:20:26 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Clairity

More of the Sarah Palin tease. It used to be liberals who made nasty jokes about her. Now she made herself into a joke. A joke candidate or is it non-candidate? No one cares anymore except for the Palin die-hards


184 posted on 09/23/2011 10:23:38 AM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: geologist

“No one likes negativity all the time.”

That is certainly true. Maybe you can share your philosophy with all the other Palin supporters who fill up all the Perry threads with smears against Perry.


185 posted on 09/23/2011 10:51:45 AM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Forty-Niner

If she is going to run, and if she runs, I think she will get the nomination. But, the Democrats are going to throw a ton of crud her way and try to make the election about her.

She needs to take the crud, deal with it early and get it out of the way.

That way by next summer her “image” is old news and the election is about Obama’s weaknesses.

A Palin-Obama contest will be fought in one of two ways:

If the left and the mainstream media set the tone in the fall, and the contest is about “Caribou Barbie” and the media image of Palin, then she will lose, narrowly, but lose.

If she goes earlier, takes the crud, handles it, and gets it out of the way, then by summer it is old news. Then she can focus attention on unemployment and Obama’s mis-handling of the economy, energy, the scale of the disaster of Obamacare, Gunwalker, The Middle East, etc.

If the election is about Obama, and how the the Emperor has no clothes, then she will win every Bush 2004 state, plus places like Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.

Unlike Obama, she has a record of success in office and in 2012 will still have more executive experience than him.

But she has to end the uncertainty, set the tone, take the “incoming fire” and bucket loads of crud about her background and personal life. Unite the party, around her and have it all resolved by April.

Then the next five months are about Obama and the string of failures and false promises he has left in his wake.


186 posted on 09/23/2011 11:04:02 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: butterdezillion
'The other person who seems to understand that is Newt Gingrich, and his attempts to keep the focus on battling Obama rather than battling each other in (vain) personal ambition make me respect him more than I otherwise would.'

Angling for Sec'y of State.

187 posted on 09/23/2011 11:23:19 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (/)
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To: Longbow1969
Not only would I not vote for Palin if she ran a dopey 3rd party vanity bid, I would pretty much lose all respect for her considering she's be essentially helping Hussein win a 2nd term.

Then just say, "I'd vote for Romney even though there is a better conservative in the race."

Because functionally, that's what you'd be doing.

The two-party system isn't the problem. The problem is that it's becoming more clear every day that there is NO conservative party. But if the GOP nominates an obvious liberal like Romney, a potent conservative party will spring up simply because there will be too many disenfranchized voters. If Sarah Palin chooses to lead that party, I'm totally on board.
188 posted on 09/23/2011 11:35:37 AM PDT by Antoninus (Take the pledge: I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. EVER.)
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To: StAnDeliver
34-33-32? Wow, that scenario is remote but not impossible. I'd like to see a proposed EV breakdown of that.

Precisely. I think Palin could win with 40% of the vote over Obomney.
189 posted on 09/23/2011 11:36:42 AM PDT by Antoninus (Take the pledge: I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. EVER.)
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To: Antoninus
If Sarah Palin chooses to lead that party, I'm totally on board.

/shrug

Welcome to 5% of the vote and a completely pointless effort that will be largely forgotten quickly unless it enabled Hussein to get re-elected.

Sorry, I've been down the 3rd party road. It's a total waste of effort once you realize that our winner take all system is just not set up to allow for it. Without a way to build coalition governments, 3rd party bids are doomed to failure. Maybe in the next couple hundred years one will rise, but it would only be to replace the other party - then the new party will be the second leg of the two party system.

Sarah Palin is not an idiot and won't be running 3rd party anyway. She has made it perfectly clear "Anybody but Obama" is an overriding factor this cycle. And I am very sorry to burst your bubble, but if Romney wins the nomination, you can bet that Palin will endorse and campaign for him.

190 posted on 09/23/2011 11:47:41 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: StAnDeliver

Probably a good move on his part. How is he on foreign policy?


191 posted on 09/23/2011 11:55:43 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Antoninus
I'd be down with that. I just have a hard time imagining the EV map -- she & Rombot forfeit NY and Cali, that means it comes down to Fla, Ohio, and the Rust Belt. That kind of election could easily end up in the House, and then what?

Check it, I've just set up the Map here


192 posted on 09/23/2011 12:04:49 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (/)
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To: Finny
A lot of folks are now thinking "Hillary" again, but as far as I'm concerned, she's only the most obvious possibility at this time.

Considering she just recently got a brand spanking new face-lift, as a teenager would say: Duhhhhh!

On the other hand, the Dems could totally surprize us, and push forward a whole new standard bearer, some fresh-faced version of that tobacco lawsuit lawyer (I forget his name already; Edwards or some such).

193 posted on 09/23/2011 4:27:10 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Antoninus; StAnDeliver
34-33-32? Wow, that scenario is remote but not impossible. I'd like to see a proposed EV breakdown of that.

Precisely. I think Palin could win with 40% of the vote over Obomney.

We were discussing this just earlier in the summer. This is the RNC's moment of truth: "Do I want to live, or do I want to die?"

The RNC has $24 Million in debt, less than $40 Million in cash, and is spending sixty cents on fundraising for every dollar raised. The RNC cannot afford to run one Senate campaign in one medium-sized state, and cannot raise money from the grassroots small donors, as has been their traditional bread and butter.

If the RNC pushes another RINO like Romney or Perry, against the wishes of the grassroots TEA Party voters, the RNC is a dead duck, and will go the way of the Whigs.

The "moderate" Republicans make up less than 25% of registered Republicans.

Independents are leaning almost 60% conservative (not Republican), almost opposite the 2008 split, more along the lines of the 2010 midterm, but more intense.

Democrats have lost the majority of young college and recent graduates, as well as 30%+ of hispanic voters, and 15% to 20% of Black voters.

In a three-way race against Palin, Romney and Obama would be competing for the about 40% liberals of the total vote. With Hillary getting more Independents, it would probably not work.

In a two-way race, Palin would probaly beat Obama 60-40, or better (record landslide). Against Hillary, it would be a fight, but I believe we would still win, because more of the Black voters would drop out.

The media wants a horse race, within a couple points of 50/50, so they can rake in gazillions with the hype. We the People are gearing up for a long-overdue, thorough cleansing of the body politic.

194 posted on 09/23/2011 4:51:54 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Bobbisox

Zero has $100s of millions raised, either by his own committee, or laundered through so-called stimulus projects into various agitprop organizations, not to mention the 527s which work for his ass. It won’t be easy to rid ourselves of the Kenyan, and that’s not even considering all his partisan media shills and phony ballots a la typical Demwit tactics.


195 posted on 09/23/2011 8:44:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: AngieGOP

“She was scrutinized plenty on personal matters but not on political issues.”

Not so....Sarah has written numrious policy and opinion piecs in addition to making speeches both domestically and internationally. She has been more throughly vetted than any canidate in he past 60 years (or longer).


196 posted on 09/23/2011 9:38:48 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Ursus Arctos Horribilis......got my GRRRRR on!)
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To: GreenLanternCorps

Overall you’ve made some excellent points......I think that you’ll find out in the end that Palin’s strategy will be along those same lines. Obama’s failures will be the focus of her attention

She still has plenty of time to execute her strategy. Its gonna be fun watching it all unfold.


197 posted on 09/23/2011 9:45:15 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Ursus Arctos Horribilis......got my GRRRRR on!)
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To: SunkenCiv
This of course is just my opinion. I believe when Sarah says unconventional, she means in every way. She will show fiscal constraint beginning in her own campaign. She will not have to buy her way into the hearts of the American people, she will offer herself up with a plan for the Restoration of America. People will open their check books and give as much as they can.

Sarah will show America what a leader can do even in her own campaign. I doubt she will pay millions of dollars to high powered professionals who will tell her how to dress, how to talk, etc, like they did when she was the VP candidate. This entire campaign will be for WE THE PEOPLE and true patriots and everyday Americans will jump on board with small contributions, all they can afford, but there will be so many, it will dwarf what the O can raise.

You want hope and change? Sarah will give us true hope, and relentless reform. Sarah is the one, I feel it in my gut...as Gibbs would say. Sarah is the only one now. The RINO establishment is still trying to shove yet one more RINO down our throats. Now they want Chris Christy, the flavor of the day...one of their own, just one more RINO. Look at his record, it is even worse than Perry and Romney if you can imagine. Do they really think we will not see what is heppening?

EAGLES UP SARAH!

198 posted on 09/23/2011 10:09:33 PM PDT by Bobbisox (All American Conservative Freeper, vicious Mama Grizzly, and a**PALIN PATRIOT**)
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To: Bobbisox
Now they want Chris Christy, the flavor of the day...one of their own, just one more RINO.

Well said.

The Rino establishment now see *Rick* Romney and *Mitt* Perry are not doing it, so now they'll let *Rick/Mitt/Chris* Christy take a spin at it.......Anybody but Sarah.

Sarah needs to run!

199 posted on 09/23/2011 10:26:05 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: Jim Noble

“If Sarah is able to make the case that she should be elected, she has a whole year before she has to start.”

Realistically, she has a little over a month. October 30th.


200 posted on 09/23/2011 10:39:52 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Beware of PaulBots tearing down good conservatives - they are deceptive weasels.)
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