Posted on 09/23/2011 10:01:23 AM PDT by lbryce
Members of the conservative gay rights group GOProud are demanding an apology from Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum for what they call his disrespectful comments directed at a gay soldier in Thursday night's GOP presidential debate.
"Tonight, Rick Santorum disrespected our brave men and women in uniform, and he owes Stephen Hill, the gay soldier who asked him the question about Don't Ask, Don't Tell repeal, an immediate apology," said GOProud's Christopher Barron and Jimmy LaSalvia in a Thursday night press release.
During the Fox News/Google-sponsored debate, which took place in Orlando, Florida, a gay soldier deployed in Iraq asked the candidates if they would take measures to "circumvent" the repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," if elected president.
Some audience members audibly booed the soldier -- a moment the GOP candidates on stage chose to ignore.
GOProud also noted that Santorum, who answered the question, declined to thank the soldier for his service, and called the repeal of DADT "social experimentation" - and "tragic."
"I would say any type of sexual activity has absolutely no place in the military," Santorum responded. "And the fact that they're making a point to include it as a provision within the military that we are going to recognize a group of people and give them a special privilege to -- and removing 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell,' I think tries to inject social policy into the military. And the military's job is to do one thing, and that is to defend our country."
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Don’t worry Santorum will not apologize. He doesn’t have to apologize. He stated the truth.
He has absolutely nothing to apologize for. He was right on the money. This soldier made a choice to out himself, obviously wanting the attention this would afford him, on national wide TV. Not real bright if you knew what the answer was going to be. But, of course, I’m sure he DID know what was going to be said.
We don’t need to make soldiers into idols. Soldiers can be good and evil; wise and unwise. I support the good within them and, like for myself, I reject the evil.
No one is without sin and it is wrong for someone to demand society celebrate your particular weakness of sin and even organize itself around your sin. If that crowd was booing this demand from the soldier, that is understandable. Although it would have been better manners to see Santorum’s answer and then respond to him accordingly.
In case it’s not obvious where I stand on the matter of DADT, the repeal of DADT, and the utterly ridiculous justifications for both: Homosexuality, particularly in the military services, is not only an ABOMINATION in the biblical and philosophical senses, it’s a strategic disaster for the armed forces.
Excellent point. But the media aren’t afraid that Paul might get the nomination. Better for them to tar a guy who might. NEVERTHELESS—DADT was and is as bad a policy as its repeal. Legitimizing pretense doesn’t solve the problem. If gays affect military cohesion, they should not be serving, period.
No one ever seems to ask what it says, psychologically and emotionally, about a group of people (homosexualists as opposed to homosexuals) who cannot in any way, shape or form be content to live and let let? Who cannot be satisfied with concluding in their own heart of hearts that they behavior is okay?
There's something wrong with that, when a person cannot reach a moral conclusion about his OWN behavior (or "identity") and be satisfied with that. No one is stopping anyone from being just about as gay as they want, even if it means letting them do sex acts in public. Yet they still express that they have so much psychological/emotional/social pain?
And in all other contexts, especially sexual, it seems perfectly acceptable that there is something wrong, psychologically or emotionally, with someone who can't seem to help being an exhibitionist or a voyeur.
Faggots can fight. They have a lot of suppressed anger.
Next, we have the disease issue. Gays have greatly higher occurance of STDs (around 40 times normal, according to the CDC). Just exactly how will the services' medical system handle that fun new arena?
The worst aspect will be predation: as gays show up in leadership positions, they will target the very vulnerable andlargely powerless new recruits for their own version of recruitment.
It's a nightmare, masking itself as a "civil right". It's a mental disease, one that no one has the guts to confront.
They are putting pressure on the Red Cross to allow homos to donate blood. Homos in uniform would help their cause.
Being already of a depraved mind, they can also be ordered to do things that other people would refuse to do,
like using force against the citizenry, which I think is the whole point of this.
(Hitler’s SS/SA is an example)
Oh there’s plenty of guts to confront it.
Where the guts are lacking is in others who won’t support and defend those who do the confronting unless it’s done “just right.”
Goldilocks can GTH!
Yes, as we used to say, “the more there are, the more there are.”
Bases, schools, MOSs, they all get known in the homosexualist underground for certain things, just like local cruising spots are known and highway rest stops get various reputations.
Then, if you want to be around other homosexuals, you know which military occupational specialties to sign up, which bases to ask for, etc.
This just increases the dynamic of “focus on the gayness” rather than military service.
Finally, it will be a very dangerous day if the military ever goes so far as to break its bond with the American people by pushing policies that turn the public from viewing the military as a honorable profession to a dishonorable one. Very dangerous.
One of the functions of honoring our troops is not because they each and every one deserve it (they don’t), but because as a societal we know it’s important to reinforce constantly that we want our military every day, in every way, to ASPIRE to honor, to EARN honor.
That keeps the military a force for good and an effective fighting force.
If we get to the point where a lot of people don’t want to subject themselves or their children to an overwhelmingly anti-military agenda in the military, our armed forces will stop existing as we know the.
That’s why every pregnant soldier who has to be airlifted out and sent home should be prosecuted and have to pay back the cost of her extraction. She should also be required to name the individual or individuals who sodomized her.
The military isn’t a sex club.
“Do you support gays serving SECRETLY in the military?”
Short of conducting enhanced interrogation on each and every member of the military to get them to reveal their sexuality, there is not much we can do about those gays who keep it a secret.
Many people who have done nothing wrong apologize. It is, as John Wayne observed, a sign of weakness.
This GOProud is the organization of sodomites that supports Sarah Palin for 2012. I wonder if she’ll make a statement on whether she thinks Santorum should, or not, apologize. I’m betting she plays it safe and ignores the issue, despite claiming she never puts her finger to the wind.
As I said. You will not answer a direct question.
I’ve been calling you out for hours now as a pro-gay military liberal troll.
I’m not debating whether or not “there is not much we can do about those gays who keep it a secret”, I’m asking you if you are OK with it.
Your evasiveness tells me all I want to know. You are a pro-gay military liberal troll.
I agree with you, but of course the feminization of the military would not be occuring if the young men from conservative families stepped up and served. Did the son(s) of Buckley, Reagan, Wallace, Falwell, Gramm, Sununu, Burr, Romney, Paul, Bennett, etc. serve? My point is that we have some really pizzz poor participation from families that should be ashamed of it.
From everything I’ve seen here today, you are 100% correct.
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