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Committee Searches for Economic 'Tipping Point'; Prefer Not to Find It
FOXNEWS ^ | September 20, 2011 | Jim Angle

Posted on 09/24/2011 9:41:42 AM PDT by Son House

"We know that the debt is now 100 percent -- approximately 100 percent of (gross domestic product)," said Allan Meltzer, a professor of political economy at Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh. "That doesn't include the unfunded liabilities. It doesn't include (mortgage lenders)Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. It doesn't include a number of other things."

Chris Edwards, Director of Tax Policy Studies at the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank in Washington, argues that U.S. debt is so far out of control that it must be contained soon.

"We've had five trillion (in) deficit spending since 2008, the most enormous sort of Keynesian stimulus you can imagine, and yet we've had slower growth than any time since World War II. So I don't think spending helps."

Meltzer pointed to three "fiscal changes that really did enormous good." One was the tax cuts from the Kennedy and Johnson administrations, the most effective part of which were business tax cuts.

"They got the biggest bang for the buck," he said.

The second were the Reagan-era tax cuts which came in two rounds and boosted a flagging economy. Meltzer said a completely different option worked well too.

"(The) third policy that gave people confidence were the Clinton tax increases, which assured people that their future tax rates were not going to go up, that they had seen what they were going to have to take, and there wouldn't be anymore."

Meltzer said the increases gave people certainty about what tax rates would be, which reassured businesses they wouldn't go higher, allowing employers to plan and create jobs with confidence.

"Oh, absolutely," he said. "I think probably all three of us agree there is a tipping point and we don't know where it is, and it would be prudent not to find out."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: committee; economic; searches; tipping
It's time for some guest who want to deal with reality INSTEAD of pander to those who want the easy way out. Here's the Senate Hearing on “What is the Real Debt Limit?” Republican DeMint Starts intro about 20 minutes. 'Is there still a market for the debt the United states need to sell?'

http://jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=Hearings&ContentRecord_id=0333930a-ad02-4bd2-92f4-cf2e9edde1d8
1 posted on 09/24/2011 9:41:52 AM PDT by Son House
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To: Son House

Democrat Cummins seems to be reading the Democrat talking points verbatim. Laura Tyson, my gosh ‘Growth over spending cuts”?

Where’s the GROWTH, Democrats?


2 posted on 09/24/2011 9:49:50 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Son House

I would like to remind Allan Meltzer, a professor of political economy, the Fed has been trying to save the economy for years...


3 posted on 09/24/2011 9:55:26 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Son House
You might want to think twice about leaving your entire life's savings in the following banks...

Five Banks Account For 96% Of The $250 Trillion In Outstanding US Derivative Exposure; Is Morgan Stanley Sitting On An FX Derivative Time Bomb?

"And that's your definition of Too Big To Fail right there: the biggest banks are not only getting bigger, but their risk exposure is now at a new all time high and up $5.3 trillion from Q1 as they have to risk ever more in the derivatives market to generate that incremental penny of return."

4 posted on 09/24/2011 10:09:18 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Son House

Meltzer says (paraphrased)
inflation has begun to rise,
Fed policy misguided
Enforceable inflation target from the FED
No shortage of money and liquidity.


5 posted on 09/24/2011 10:22:59 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Son House
"(The) third policy that gave people confidence were the Clinton tax increases, which assured people that their future tax rates were not going to go up, that they had seen what they were going to have to take, and there wouldn't be anymore."

No spin there.

6 posted on 09/24/2011 10:27:10 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Son House

Deadweight Losses
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/deadweightloss.asp#axzz1YtMbDbIk

Investopedia explains Deadweight Loss

Minimum wage and living wage laws can create a deadweight loss by causing employers to overpay for employees and preventing low-skilled workers from securing jobs. Price ceilings and rent controls can also create deadweight losses by discouraging production and decreasing the supply of goods, services or housing below what consumers truly demand. Consumers experience shortages and producers earn less than they would otherwise. Taxes are also said to create a deadweight loss because they prevent people from engaging in purchases they would otherwise make because the final price of the product will be above the equilibrium

Read more: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/deadweightloss.asp#ixzz1YtMsKdMB


7 posted on 09/24/2011 10:32:11 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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Check out the 52:53 minutes question; once the true cost of America borrowing is revealed...?
http://jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=Hearings&ContentRecord_id=0333930a-ad02-4bd2-92f4-cf2e9edde1d8
8 posted on 09/24/2011 10:45:21 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: SunkenCiv

You may wish to try to ping your folks on this one too, and thank you!

Also, See Cummins’ question about Clinton tax increases at 58:22 , seems what libs leave out is the Republicans balancing the budget cut spending, don’t run deficits, and tax increases are not advisable now. Cummins must be depressed learning that, next Cummins is trying to assert that Austerity(frugality) is going to have a negative effect.


9 posted on 09/24/2011 10:57:58 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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At 64:40 Cummins gets schooled again;
http://jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=Hearings&ContentRecord_id=0333930a-ad02-4bd2-92f4-cf2e9edde1d8
10 posted on 09/24/2011 11:04:01 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Son House

Negative risk at 81:10, debt, recession;
http://jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=Hearings&ContentRecord_id=0333930a-ad02-4bd2-92f4-cf2e9edde1d8


11 posted on 09/24/2011 11:23:28 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: All

83:30
http://jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=Hearings&ContentRecord_id=0333930a-ad02-4bd2-92f4-cf2e9edde1d8

Q: Is delaying the Affordable Health Care Act something this congress should take on immediately?

Answer: YES


12 posted on 09/24/2011 11:27:07 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: All

Margret Thatcher at about 87:00 mins


13 posted on 09/24/2011 11:30:42 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Son House

92:00 mins, Cummins schooled on infrastructure, my own question; why have Democrats wasted so much time and money as they claim infrastructure is so bad?


14 posted on 09/24/2011 11:37:01 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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Meeting adjourned at 98:00, so starting at 20:00 the actual meeting is about 78 minutes, and well worth it for the uninformed(read some Democrat supporters, as others will not be influenced by reality)


15 posted on 09/24/2011 11:43:45 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Son House; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Son House for the ping.


16 posted on 09/24/2011 11:55:54 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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17 posted on 09/25/2011 10:52:54 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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