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Ailes: Palin Was a ‘Branding Issue’
DailyBeast ^ | 09/26/11 | staff

Posted on 09/26/2011 11:12:27 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper

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To: ZULU

“He will loose to those stations in the ratings because the bulk of FOX’ supporters will abandon him.”

unfortunately shep smith does pretty well


41 posted on 09/26/2011 11:56:56 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

He confirms that O’Reilly hates Sean Hannity. I could tell that they didn’t get along, because the last time they ever did anything together was when O’Reilly promoted his book on Hannity’s radio show, which was in 2001. After that O’Reilly tried radio, and competed against Hannity in NY.


42 posted on 09/26/2011 11:57:06 AM PDT by Politics4US
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To: Linda Frances
If Perry and Romney are really kissing up to Ailes, they can kiss us goodbye. We don’t need yes men.

Do they have $1 Mil a year contracts with Ailes?

43 posted on 09/26/2011 11:59:20 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: ari-freedom

Shep is a big time lib. It first showed during the Persian Gulf War.

I like Harris Falkner, Gretchen Carlson, Steeve Doocey, Hannity and Molly Hanneberg.


44 posted on 09/26/2011 12:00:18 PM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I know about the others, but is Van Sustern a lib too?


45 posted on 09/26/2011 12:01:47 PM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Who knows...who cares me done with fox news.

Really the twitter world has encompassed the rightwing theory much better than Fox and more to the point and descriptive than fox could ever be....!

As for breaking news....there is no better coverage than CNN for the first few days before the political slant weighs in so I am good...lol


46 posted on 09/26/2011 12:03:10 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: winoneforthegipper; Huck
Huck was right, the Newsweek article that this Beast article is hawking is mostly innuendo by the author, NOT a quote from Ailes.

For example, here is the actual Newsweek sentence from which the title of this thread supposedly takes it's support: Glenn Beck’s inflammatory rhetoric—his ranting about Obama being a racist—“became a bit of a branding issue for us” before the hot-button host left in July, Ailes says

Note: It is about Glenn Beck. It was the author that then threw in that Palin was "also" a branding issue, even though they don't quote Ailes as saying that. And given that Palin still works for Fox, it seems clear Ailes doesn't see her as an issue -- he's had her critiquing the debates for his network, after all.

There is some pretty disturbing stuff about how the fox debate folks conspired to cause trouble between the candidates; no mention that Palin was involved in that.

Meanwhile, here's a quote from Newsweek that belies the notion that Ailes is turning to the left, or to moderation: How do we know they were worshiping?” he demands. “I think the AP is so far over the hill, they’ve become left wing, antiwar. Gotta watch their copy.”

Here's another that clearly puts him on the side of ending "crony capitalism", far from the hysterical claims of some posting here that he is trying to trash Palin to protect crony capitalism:

“Are our producers on board on this ‘Regulation Nation’ stuff? Are they ginned up and ready to go?” Ailes, who claims to be “hands off” in developing the series, later boasts that “no other network will cover that subject … I think regulations are totally out of control,” he adds, with bureaucrats hiring Ph.D.s to “sit in the basement and draw up regulations to try to ruin your life.” It is a message his troops cannot miss.

And here's just a FUNNY attack on Bill O'Reilly: Ailes says O’Reilly has “moderated” his views and that “Beck scared him”—meaning Beck was so popular on the right that O’Reilly had to find a different niche.

Also: Ailes seems to relish the feuding among his stars, saying, “O’Reilly hates Sean and he hates Rush because they did better in radio than he did.”)

Kurtz knew which buttons to press on the right, throwing in some unsupported "Ailes Attacks Palin" comments, and it got the predictable but unfortunate response from some of the Palin supporters, who didn't consider the source and look for themselves.

47 posted on 09/26/2011 12:06:43 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Alas Babylon!
The whole idea that Fox News is a right wing propaganda machine is laughable. It just seems that way because they actually feature a few conservatives with their own shows. Fair and Balanced is a marketing gimmick to get you to watch.

I've always maintained that FOX News isn't conservative, they're just not as overtly liberal as the other networks.

48 posted on 09/26/2011 12:11:29 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

You left out Juan Williams.


49 posted on 09/26/2011 12:11:29 PM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: winoneforthegipper
"....and wait the tea party is breaking up?"

This has been the talking point from libs, squishy GOP types, emails from lib friends and the LSM for about the last six weeks. One thing they do is stick to the talking points, wheather based in reality or not.

50 posted on 09/26/2011 12:12:31 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Yeah, it’s just such a branding problem having hosts that people want to watch, isn’t it?


51 posted on 09/26/2011 12:14:35 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I know—the ACTUAL Ailes quotes in the piece are hilarious.


52 posted on 09/26/2011 12:16:38 PM PDT by Huck (But the glass IS half-empty!)
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To: winoneforthegipper

We need a REAL Conservative News Channel... not a RINO big gubmint knobrubber network.


53 posted on 09/26/2011 12:17:27 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Ailes just runnin’ scared of obama, like everyone else.


54 posted on 09/26/2011 12:18:13 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: winoneforthegipper

AND AILES IS RUSH LIMBAUGHS FRIEND?

Or has he turned on Rush too.


55 posted on 09/26/2011 12:18:42 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: Diogenesis

Annoying keyword spamming is annoying.


56 posted on 09/26/2011 12:21:25 PM PDT by lonevoice (The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers, impeach we much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

It can’t be that bad if Sarah Palin lets her name be associated with it, and collects large paychecks working for it.

Would she really associate herself and take money from a RINO big gubmint knobrubber network? Doesn’t seem like that would be in-character for her.


57 posted on 09/26/2011 12:21:43 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Alas Babylon!; onyx; penelopesire; maggief; hoosiermama; SE Mom; Liz; rodguy911; Fred Nerks; ...

Not hating this from Ailes..

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“(Ailes seems to relish the feuding among his stars, saying, “O’Reilly hates Sean and he hates Rush because they did better in radio than he did.”)

Ailes keeps a wary eye on anchor Shepard Smith, who occasionally backs aspects of the Obama record: “Every once in a while Shep Smith gets out there where the buses don’t run and we have a friendly talk.”

And Ailes likes to tease O’Reilly: “You gonna suck up to Obama so you can get another interview at the next football game?”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/09/25/roger-ailes-repositions-fox-news.html

Whatever the criticism, thank God there IS Roger Ailes and FNC. Just consider the morass of non-stop news twisting and outright political propagandizing 15-20 yrs. ago.


58 posted on 09/26/2011 12:22:22 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

bump.


59 posted on 09/26/2011 12:28:01 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Wow, who knew FOX was right wing...?
pffffffffffffff
Freegards,
Lex
btw...’cept for Cavuto I dont care much for FOX at all.


60 posted on 09/26/2011 12:28:51 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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