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Feds to Gibson: Hand over more wood
http://www.bizjournals.com ^ | Wednesday, September 28, 2011 | Annie Johnson

Posted on 09/30/2011 7:36:58 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger
The only element missing to this story is a character named "Wesley Mooch"...

More undeniable proof that Ayn Rand wasn't just an author... she was a modern day profit!

21 posted on 09/30/2011 8:02:36 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Red Badger

C’mon, a “blank” IS a finished product. Heck, back in my sawmill days, we used to export whole logs (peeled, but whole).


22 posted on 09/30/2011 8:03:09 AM PDT by Cruising Speed
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To: wxgesr
They only want more "Gibson" wood.

That staff is going to get tired of that ~ there are so many federales and so few of them.

23 posted on 09/30/2011 8:03:32 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Yardstick
For any number of reasons I seriously doubt the federales have a single expert in guitar parts or manufacturing. That means Obama and Holder are depending on SOMEONE ELSE!!!!!!!

A competitor? Well, once we find out we can take care of that problem on behalf of Gibson.

24 posted on 09/30/2011 8:07:24 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Red Badger

“It is clear that Gibson understands the purpose of the Lacey Act, and understands that … fingerboard blanks are not finished fingerboards and thus Gibson is aware that its order for fingerboard blanks was an order for contraband ebony wood or ebony wood which is illegal to possess,” Seiler wrote.
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This is the sentence that bothers me the most. Apparently, a strong defense is PROOF OF GUILT!!!


25 posted on 09/30/2011 8:07:35 AM PDT by stansblugrassgrl (PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!! YEEEEEHAW!)
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To: Red Badger

I wish we would tackle illegal immigration with the same zeal as pursuing Lacey Act violations. Dispatching a SWAT team to Gibson to enforce this purely bureaucratic fiat is just plain nuts. No wonder US businesses are scared of new regulations as at any minute a federal goon squad could break down the door and shut down your business for having the wrong light bulbs, a high flow toilet or violation of some obscure foreign law that the foreign country itself doesn’t enforce.


26 posted on 09/30/2011 8:09:12 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: Red Badger
Meanwhile, guess who's not getting a visit from the Feds.....

Inside Amazon's warehouse Lehigh Valley workers tell of brutal heat, dizzying pace at online retailer.

A long read, but if the allegations are true, why ain't the Feds bangin' down the doors...?

27 posted on 09/30/2011 8:09:40 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: Cruising Speed

Indians cut down the tree.
Indians cut the tree into logs.
Indians transported the logs to the sawmill.
Indians cut the logs into smaller logs.
Indians cut the smaller logs into flat blanks.
If you cut a log into small pieces, it’s finished, raw stock................


28 posted on 09/30/2011 8:10:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (We cannot defeat an enemy that the president and hence his administration cannot name.......)
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To: Red Badger

Eat wood.


29 posted on 09/30/2011 8:13:55 AM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: Red Badger

I’m guessing that the First Lady wanted Gibson to give her a guitar to give to France’s First Lady and that they didn’t. This is pure speculation. Or maybe when the First Lady gave a Gibson guitar to Mrs. Sarkozy, a competitor complained that the FLOTUS should have given blah brand because blah supports Democrats. or something similar


30 posted on 09/30/2011 8:18:27 AM PDT by petitfour
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Nah, the only reason they are doing this is because the wood is black.....................


31 posted on 09/30/2011 8:23:39 AM PDT by Red Badger (We cannot defeat an enemy that the president and hence his administration cannot name.......)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Agreed, Ayn Rand was very prophetic. Maybe she was somewhat of a prophet. Her books certainly earned her a sizeable profit.


32 posted on 09/30/2011 8:24:56 AM PDT by yooling (God only asks for 10%. Uncle Sam wants it all.)
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To: muawiyah

Martin. Big dem donor and main Gibson competitor.


33 posted on 09/30/2011 8:42:04 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Wanna confuse obama? Ask him his REAL name.)
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To: yooling

Deftly done!


34 posted on 09/30/2011 8:47:26 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (To ACLU & its plaintiffs: Stop dragging the public into your personal struggle w/ God. -Mark Baisley)
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To: Yardstick
...these Indian fingerboard blanks are probably pretty rough...not much more than rough-cut rectangular slabs. So there probably is an argument to be made that they’re not finished fingerboards.

That seems to be at the heart of the gov claims.

We can import veneer up to 6 mm. thick, slightly less than 1/4" thick. The complaint filed by the gov. stated that the blanks were around 11 mm thick, I seem to recall. As a previous post notes, this may have stemmed from Gibson's desire to improve quality. The reason fingerboards need to be made thicker is that the surface is milled to a radius to make playing easier. The radius differs between models and is determined by player preference.

The upshot: it is difficult, if not impossible for a company to specify scale length (for frets) and curvature when purchasing fingerboards. Also, the vendors are probably do not have the equipment to provide the degree of precision needed.

The best argument Gibson has is to point out that fingerboard blanks are milled to specific sizes and that these would be extremely difficult to economically use to any other.

The larger issue with Cites treaty and the Lacy act enforcement regime is that smaller entities cannot offer their products on the international market, but must submit to government limits on the scope of their market, which will also stipulate the price.

Cites is impoverishing people.

Here is an example of an iron-clad principal: whenever a law or ruling is created, imagine the most preposterous, exploitative and corrupt purpose to which it can be distorted to serve. Within two years time some bureaucrat will surpass your wildest imagining.

35 posted on 09/30/2011 9:06:57 AM PDT by tsomer
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To: yooling
Agreed, Ayn Rand was very prophetic. Maybe she was somewhat of a prophet. Her books certainly earned her a sizeable profit.

Nah - I don't think Ayn was a prophet. She understood human nature, man's constant quest for power and control over the masses, and the fact that history always repeats itself for a people who forget.

This is why upon reading the Founders and some of their warnings - one might assume THEY were prophets. It doesn't take a prophet or a genius to see how easily men are beguiled into accepting their own slavery by the hand of those they loft into power over them. There is nothing new under the sun.

36 posted on 09/30/2011 9:07:28 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Red Badger
Federal authorities are pressuring Nashville-based Gibson Guitar to hand over an additional 25 bundles of Indian wood that the company allegedly planned to use in its famous guitars.

Is this REALLY the most importnt thing our federal government has to do?? Destroy ANOTHER great American business??

(God, give me strength . . . )

37 posted on 09/30/2011 9:34:36 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: DustyMoment

No one is safe from this communist junta in DC.

I am going to buy some Gibson shirts or hats to wear in solidarity w this company.

Screw obama and his supporters.


38 posted on 09/30/2011 9:38:20 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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To: Red Badger
You can have my Gibson wood...



...when you pry it from my cold dead hands.
39 posted on 09/30/2011 10:30:12 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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I would tell the Feds what they could do with my wood.............


40 posted on 09/30/2011 10:31:51 AM PDT by Red Badger (We cannot defeat an enemy that the president and hence his administration cannot name.......)
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