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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Could someone provide me a reason why homosexuals should not be allowed to serve in the military? Keep in mind I am secular conservative, so religious arguments do not appeal to me.


13 posted on 10/02/2011 4:05:13 AM PDT by Byzantine Basileus
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To: Byzantine Basileus

Gays HAVE been serving in the Military since the Country was Founded. Who or what you have sex with should not be an Issue,that is Why dont ask dont tell worked. Heterosexuals dont go around Bragging that they have sex with the opposite sex,it has NOTHING to do with your job.So Just stfu about it.


14 posted on 10/02/2011 4:14:32 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Byzantine Basileus
I have no idea. While gays should not be given special rights or be allowed to use public schools to procure, for one example, gays can and have served in every military that ever existed.

The Republicans could be reaping the benefits of this just as we did when gay marriaged was imposed by the Massachusetts judiciary. But instead of showing we respect the uniform even when we disagree with the point, the idiots in that crowd handed Obama a perfect weapon with which to label all Republicans as haters. Thanks, guys!

Debates should be dispassionate, not another excuse for people to pretend they`re at a game sshow. If you can`t be an adult and shut up for the time it takes for a debate, to allow the issues to be put out there and so the candidates can express positions [like Santorum`s] that make our points rationally, then stay home. Those bigmouthed boors were the best campaigners Obama could ask for.

When our side says`We weren`t booing HIM but what he SAID!` -- every leftist protestor says that.

17 posted on 10/02/2011 4:21:06 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (undecided)
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To: Byzantine Basileus; Jim Robinson

Is this a serious question?! Are you a retread that was zotted for supporting queers?

I served in both the USAF and the US Army... If the military was as screwed up then because of queers as it is now, I would never have gone in. Not only do I have to watch my back in the shower (pun intended), but also out on the battlefield. Just being in the same unit out on the field would cause distraction because I wouldn’t feel comfortable.. which can mean the difference between life and death.

Welcome to FR... careful though, the owner of the site(JimRob) does NOT tolerate queer support(ers).

P.S. This didn’t mention religion, if that makes you feel better.

P.P.S. A true conservative wouldn’t support queers.


23 posted on 10/02/2011 4:29:16 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Byzantine Basileus

Because co-habitation with people who like to place their penises in other mens’ rectums them perform oral sex on same dirty member is disgusting to most heterosexuals. Is that clear or do I need to explain in a more detailed manner?


25 posted on 10/02/2011 4:30:56 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Byzantine Basileus

Could someone provide me a reason why homosexuals should not be allowed to serve in the military? Keep in mind I am secular conservative, so religious arguments do not appeal to me.


For me it’s simple.

As a young man it’s hard enough to be in the barracks in cramped quarters with other young men. Then when I was stationed on a ship I found out that the barracks were nice and roomy compared to having thirty guys stuck in a living space the size of my living room.

Now imagine that same space with both homo-sexuals and heterosexual guys. You have introduced blasting caps and dynamite together. The chances for an explosion have just increased exponentially.

I could go further but I won’t. It’s obvious that Obama not only doesn’t give a rip about the men and women under his command he actively loathes them.


26 posted on 10/02/2011 4:31:45 AM PDT by The Working Man (The mantra for BO's reign...."No Child Left a Dime")
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To: Byzantine Basileus
I'll keep it simple: "gays" are not monogamous. The primary focus for "gays" is sex, not service to their country. They prefer each other and this leads to networks of "gays" throughout units, ranks and services. These networks assist their own through promotions, assignments, awards. We have had decades of having to investigate these networks and eliminate them, as in the "Lesbian Mafia" in the Marine Corps.

The other issue is disease. "Gays" have STDs at a rate 40 times that of the normal population. We have enough trouble with the military medical system as it is, without adding that problem.

Now that Obama has pushed "gays" into the open, next we have "gay marriage" being forced into the service as well - with the added fun of assigning base housing, spousal benefits, etc. We also have the next tier of perverts demanding their addition - transexuals, etc.

Now, are supposed to be a fighting force or a massive social and sexual experiment?

54 posted on 10/02/2011 4:51:14 AM PDT by Chainmail
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To: Byzantine Basileus

“Could someone provide me a reason why homosexuals should not be allowed to serve in the military? Keep in mind I am secular conservative, so religious arguments do not appeal to me.”

They make piss poor infantryman. My experience was that most are little fairies that are not efficient soldiers. When they are promoted to leadership position, that is when they really shine as finicky little bitch like decision-makers. They lose credibility and eventually self destruct as overall soldiers.


96 posted on 10/02/2011 5:45:15 AM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: Byzantine Basileus
Would YOU want to sleep 8 inches away from a homo? Shower with homos.....trade blood with homos??? Also what if a homo couple are in the trenches with you...who do you think he would save first, you or his lover?

I see you are new here, are a Democrat?

97 posted on 10/02/2011 5:50:00 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Byzantine Basileus
>>Could someone provide me a reason why homosexuals should not be allowed to serve in the military? Keep in mind I am secular conservative, so religious arguments do not appeal to me.<<

Look up the secular history of Sodom and Gamorah.

109 posted on 10/02/2011 6:04:56 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Byzantine Basileus

“Could someone provide me a reason why homosexuals should not be allowed to serve in the military?”

Certainly:
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

That should be enough right there. Homosexuality is supported by the left- in support of their goals. Allowing them into the military is the height of insanity.


129 posted on 10/02/2011 7:04:09 AM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: Byzantine Basileus

Imagine yourself in the common shower with one.

Consider having the guy next to you in a foxhole worrying more about a special friend down the line than you.

Contemplate possible favoritism, a la females on the “Love Boat” in the first Gulf War, by a “pink Mafia” regarding promotions and cushy jobs.

Think about the creation of a new “protected species” in the military. You know Orwell’s “some animals are more equal than others”.

Apply all of the above to discipline, unit cohesion and accomplishment of mission. The military is NOT a social science laboratory.


141 posted on 10/02/2011 7:35:08 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Byzantine Basileus
Ever wonder why male and female soldiers don't bunk together? Think it might have something to do with unnecessarily introducing a sexually charged atmosphere?

With the elimination of DADT, do you think the atmosphere in a barracks will become more or less sexually charged?

151 posted on 10/02/2011 8:13:17 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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