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Rising Atheism In America Puts 'Religious Right On The Defensive' [12%-20% Atheists!]
Guardian (UK) ^ | October 01, 2011 | Paul Harris

Posted on 10/02/2011 3:57:10 PM PDT by Steelfish

Rising Atheism In America Puts 'Religious Right On The Defensive' High profile of faith-based politicians such as Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry masks a steady growth in secularism

Paul Harris in New York 1 October 2011

About 400 people are preparing to gather for a conference in Hartford, Connecticut, to promote the end of religion in the US and their vision of a secular future for the country.

Those travelling to the meeting will pass two huge roadside billboards displaying quotes from two of the country's most famous non-believers: Katharine Hepburn and Mark Twain. "Faith is believing what you know ain't so," reads the one featuring Twain. "I'm an atheist and that's it," says the one quoting Hepburn.

At the meeting, members of the Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF) will hear speakers celebrate successes they have had in removing religion from US public life and see awards being presented to noted secularist activists.

The US is increasingly portrayed as a hotbed of religious fervour. Yet in the homeland of ostentatiously religious politicians such as Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry, agnostics and atheists are actually part of one of the fastest-growing demographics in the US: the godless. Far from being in thrall to its religious leaders, the US is in fact becoming a more secular country, some experts say. "It has never been better to be a free-thinker or an agnostic in America," says Annie Laurie Gaylor, co-president of the FFRF.

The exact number of faithless is unclear. One study by the Pew Research Centre puts them at about 12% of the population, but another by the Institute for the Study of Secularism in Society and Culture at Trinity College in Hartford puts that figure at around 20%.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


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To: Steelfish

The Reds are hard at work:

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”


21 posted on 10/02/2011 4:43:56 PM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: Steelfish

Evangelical fundamentalist atheists rising.


22 posted on 10/02/2011 4:45:43 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: Steelfish
If atheists don't believe in God, why are they so afraid of Him?
23 posted on 10/02/2011 4:49:37 PM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: stubernx98

“judeo-christian ethic” can’t stand without judeo-christian doctrine and metaphysic.

If you understand that you can understand why the world is going wrong since leaders are doing tricks and craps, lying...

You have a choice to do and what you call the “judeo-christian ethic” is not an easy way....Try to be consistant if possible.

Atheism or agnosticism is , most of the time, a “confortable”, lazy liberal posture


24 posted on 10/02/2011 4:56:18 PM PDT by Ulysse (mao)
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To: Publius

I’m an atheist, and I have that same problem. When they talk about getting religion out of public life, I ask, “Why? Why does it offend you? Why does it matter?”

Different camp, but I understand where you’re coming from based on my past experiences, there’s loads of different religions out there, and of course I even read philosophers too. At the end of the day, if I don’t believe what some people say, it really doesn’t have a lasting effect on me after that.

I have no interest in pulling down Ten Commandments monuments or crosses. I have no interest in getting people to believe in my non-belief. Quite honestly, I lost patience with these idiots years ago.

Well, I think the founders had in mind the fact that if one could deal with a few wierdos every now and then, genuine, constructive ideas could come around every now and then. In my opinion, I would put up with the fact that some people may believe in a flat earth every now and then, then let a systematic exclusion of ideas inhibit scientific progress. It’s a tough price to pay with the 1st amendment, but I would argue that historically, and scientifically, tolerating a few odd people every now and then has paid off in America.


25 posted on 10/02/2011 4:57:55 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Steelfish

“Atheists don’t believe in God. But the Devil does’’.— Bishop Fulton J. Sheen.


26 posted on 10/02/2011 5:04:28 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Morpheus2009

What “idiots” are you speaking about behind your pc ?

You appear like you really are !
You show the sad, stupid and arrogant face of atheism...Thank you, go on.

Only stupid secularists are deliberatly mixing up all “religions”, judaism, christianism, islam...They don’t have a clue or try to spread confusion


27 posted on 10/02/2011 5:10:45 PM PDT by Ulysse (a)
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To: Bryanw92
Relying on nothing more than instincts and observations, I will say the same thing.

C. S. Lewis is quoted, "Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important."

28 posted on 10/02/2011 5:13:29 PM PDT by labette ( Humble student of Thinkology)
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To: Steelfish

I am a big believer and have had personal proof that there is a God and a afterlife. What happened is private but for me there is no doubt. My eldest son has very little belief and thinks of himself as smart. Truthfully it is harder to love him because he only believes in himself. His live in girlfriend’s daughter who is seven told me today that there is no heaven. She then went on to tell me that I believed in childish things. My son and his “friend’ obviously are libs. I am an awesome grandfather to my “real” by blood grandchildren but the “possibly temporary”
grandchildren make me want to keep my distance from them. I may not be explaining this clearly enough but surely there are many grand parents in similar situations who know what I mean.


29 posted on 10/02/2011 5:14:16 PM PDT by badpacifist (All species have subspecies... in some species the subspecies appears to be the dominate one.)
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To: labette

Then the conclusion is that christianism is important since it’s important to know if it’s true or false.

In addition many high level scientists and philosophers believed in God from a rational point of view....

This should make our arrogant atheists much more humble as they are.

I would say that “God” ,if it exists, “is God name of God” and is a satisfying and intellectually smart thought.

And that J.Christ is a very smart person...Enough to follow and listen to him


30 posted on 10/02/2011 5:30:11 PM PDT by Ulysse (a)
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To: Steelfish

It’s unfortunate many on this site can’t see us for what we are — Dedicated to freedom and liberty and sickened by what progressivism is doing to this country. We just don’t believe in God. I think there are more atheists on this forum than a lot of members realize.


31 posted on 10/02/2011 5:32:47 PM PDT by sigSEGV
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To: sigSEGV

Wow, would you be in trouble without us believers.


32 posted on 10/02/2011 5:59:52 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: jz638
Twain was critical of organized religion, but he was no atheist.

Obviously you never read all of his books. If you think that Captain Stormfield's Visit to Heaven, doesn't make him an Atheist, that is your right I suppose.

May I suggest the Age of Reason, by Paine?

33 posted on 10/02/2011 6:03:03 PM PDT by LeGrande ("life's tough; it's tougher if you're stupid." John Wayne)
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To: ottbmare

34 posted on 10/02/2011 6:07:43 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: Ulysse
I fear that you are sleeping awoken like a somnanbule.... Or you should assume that communists were awoken atheists....

I am not sure what you are trying to say? That Atheists are communists? Is that the same as saying that People of the Book believe in Allah?

35 posted on 10/02/2011 6:09:46 PM PDT by LeGrande ("life's tough; it's tougher if you're stupid." John Wayne)
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To: ASA Vet; Admin Moderator
That's nice, but every time I used it I'd have to do the whole HTML img scr code. I want a "Like" button to click on fast. Think of how much bandwidth JRob would save if we didn't have to post words with our agreement to someone's post,and could just click on "Like" or "Dislike."
36 posted on 10/02/2011 6:26:06 PM PDT by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: LeGrande
No, just that you're a troll from Darwin Central.

Wazzup with some of the DC crowd supporting Palin anyway? I thought the reason there was a split with FR in the first place was the idea that the "ignorant Christianists" would cost the right all future elections due to the easily-spread liberal meme that they want to suppress all science.

See Matt Damon's infamous rant about Palin for example.

Cheers!

37 posted on 10/02/2011 6:30:29 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: aomagrat
If atheists don't believe in God, why are they so afraid of Him?

It's leftist atheists that are intolerant. Leftism is fundamentally driven by envy. Leftist atheists envy the religious because of their God advantage. Scientific studies show indisputably that religious people on average live longer happier lives, have more successful marriages, have more children, live in bigger houses, drive bigger cars. Envy does not want what someone else has, it wants to destroy what someone else has. Vanity leads to envy which eventually becomes hate. Leftists are evil.

38 posted on 10/02/2011 6:31:05 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: Steelfish

Atheism is more destructive to America than the worst economic scenario we can imagine. We can bounce back from a bad economy, but we could never return to a being a great country if atheism permeated America.


39 posted on 10/02/2011 6:44:33 PM PDT by mtg
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To: Mach9; LeGrande

There’s a difference between satire of the faithful and a denial of faith. Twain’s description of the fly as God’s most beloved creature in Letters from Earth is wonderful satire, as is his mockery of faith healing in Christian Science, or his sneering descriptions of “the pilgrims” in the Innocents Abroad. I also don’t think Twain believed in time travel because he wrote a Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s court.

It wouldn’t bother me one wit to find out that a recently uncovered will of Mark Twain includes the phrase “I deny the existence of God.”, since I don’t draw upon him as a testament to my own faith. Stating he was an atheist by cherrypicking his works doesn’t work for me though since he didn’t live the life of an avowed atheist. Setting his self identification as a Presbyterian aside, Twain was a Freemason (belief in a higher authority is a prerequisite to membership), he also spent many years researching and writing a respectful biography of Joan of Arc, whom by all accounts he deeply admired due to - not despite - her faith.


40 posted on 10/02/2011 7:02:59 PM PDT by jz638
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