Posted on 10/05/2011 8:42:27 AM PDT by dangus
No, because Liberalism is more important.
Cain may be the silver bullet that ends democrat ownership of blacks.
born December 13, 1945 in Memphis, TN (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)
Parents were
Luther Cain Jr., born March 16, 1925 in TN, died March 29, 1982 in Atlanta, GA
Lenora Davis, born July 27, 1925 in GA, died August 20, 2005 in Atlanta, GA
Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)
Herman Cain is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN
Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama ISN'T!
Don’t know about all that, but I am Irish-German (they don’t get much whiter than that), born and raised in the northeast and Herman is MY guy! He has my vote in the primaries and I am crossing my fingers for the election.
He is dead on about changing the tax code, abolishing the EPA and how he wants to threaten Iran. I LOVE this guy!
Maybe a very little bit, around 1% or 2% of the black vote.
His wife is beautiful. Would be a nice change...just sayin!
...oh.... and states need to get on the stick. Some are revamping their election laws to counter voter fraud, and some aren’t...and it has a great deal more to do with more than redistricting!
I wouldn’t say it will just be black Democrats. There seem to be many Democrats, Reagan Democrats, who like Cain. Many of them, specifically in Southern states, seem enamored with Herman. He even got 54% of them in one recent poll.
They could vote for him, but the question is why would they vote for him in a Republican Primary??
Make no mistake, that is the question, why in a ***Republican Primary ***?
There would be no reason for them to do that, except as mischief making. Trying to influence the Republican outcome in order to help the Democrats win in the General.
Why would Cain winning SC help Dems later? I’m not saying it would or wouldn’t, but Dem voters could perceive that it would.
Make no mistake, the never-held- elective-office-before, Herman Cain, is vulnerable, when the Dems decide to go after him. He has said several things that do not look well in sound bite commercials, on foreign policy and on domestic issues. He was forced to backtrack on what he said about Perry when the facts came through, but instead of apologizing, he denied ever saying what he said. Yet the soundbites exist that show he absolutely did go after Perry as being racially insensitive towards Blacks, but he now denies saying what he said.
Black Dems might reason that America will not vote for a second Black candidate in a row after becoming disenchanted with Obama.
There are all sorts of thoughts that might go through their minds.
Rightly or wrongly, but mischief making would be their only goal. No other reason for a Dem, Black or not, to vote in a GOP primary.
My own thought is that if you help Cain, you are ultimately helping Romney. I know Cain claims conservativism, but he has said he could support Romney in the General, he has endorsed Romney in the past, and he has said he could pick Romney for his own VP.
There are connections to Romney supporters that is being discussed on other threads.
Whether SC Black Dems would perceive it as ultimately helping Romney I don’t know, but I do see that.
Either way, there’s lots of reasons and angles involved, none of them good.
Black Democrats love to hate black conservatives.
It’s a primary to select the Republican candidate; it is not a primary of Republicans. Unlike some states (like New Hampshire and Virginia), there is nothing that says that a voter SHOULD be a Republican, so it’s NOT inherently “mischief-making.” It doesn’t matter a hill of beans that the primary voter normally votes Democrat, or that he intends to vote for Obama in the fall. The only concern is whether a black South Carolinian believes that it would be better for a black South Carolinian to see that Herman Cain win the election.
True, a LOT of liberals would hate to see a black Republican nominated, since they understand that would undermine the Democrat’s fifty-year quest to paint Blacks as the part of racism, despite the fact that the KKK existed solely to make sure that Democrats won elections. I’m not sure that blacks share that goal. On the other hand, it’s quite possibly that they falsely see Cain as an Uncle Tom and particularly resent him as a candidate.
>> Make no mistake, the never-held- elective-office-before, Herman Cain, is vulnerable, when the Dems decide to go after him. He has said several things that do not look well in sound bite commercials, on foreign policy and on domestic issues. He was forced to backtrack on what he said about Perry when the facts came through, but instead of apologizing, he denied ever saying what he said. <<
You sound like you just don’t like Herman Cain as a candidate. Please tell me you’re not one of those Perrytards. Cain did not deny calling Perry “insensitive,” nor did he backtrack on it. He only emphasized that insensitivity does not mean racial hatred. If you want to vote against Cain because you don’t believe he’s electable, that’s fine. Quit slandering him, though. As for me, I’d rather have Cain than someone who feels more loyalty to Vicente Fox than the United States of America, as Perry has done by
1. Refusing to allow Hispanics to be educated in English, and preferring Mexico-supplied history books which inculcate them with a hatred of America.
2. Violating the spirit and letter of conservative-supported federal law which prohibits giving illegal aliens preference over American students in state-run tuition breaks.
3. Subverting conservative-supported federal law, by interfering with the construction of the border fence, on the grounds that violates private property, while
4. Initiating on the most massive state campaign to subvert private propert by misusing eminent domain to try to build a superhighway allowing Mexican truckers and coyotes access to America’s heartland, while denying access to this highway by actual Americans
5. Opposing the implementation of E-Verify, and feeding his Perrytards with lies and disinformation against E-Verify. Despite years of searching, liberals have yet to find the American who lost his job because of E-Verify. Contrary to Perrytards’ lies, E-Verify does NOT create any new databases, stores, or even associations for any worker, but merely allows employers to check existing social-security data.
I’d certainly agree that Black liberals love to hate black conservatives. Are South Carolina’s blacks liberals? Anyone know what portion of the black vote Tim Scott won?
Herman’s best bet crossing over party lines, would be the white Dem. The Blacks are pretty entrenched by the James Clyburn machine. All he has to do is show up on local TV and scream his usual racist rant and they know to stay on the porch.
Open primaries are absolutely contrary to the whole principle of party primaries.
Anyone ever noticed how conservatives get screwed in open primaries?
As far as 2012 goes..are you suggesting that SC blacks, who are conservative, might be induced to vote for Cain because they like him and his positions, or that Dems will try their own version of "Operation Chaos" because they WANT Cain to be the nominee?
SC has the highest % of retired military in the country. The SC GOP should find another Alan West ( conservative, articulate, black, retired military) type who lives in the district, staff and fund him, and turn him loose..let him go after the #3 House Dem every day...why give the jerk a pass?
>> I don’t understand your question....but first, your key statement, that Dem crossover in 2008 caused the McCain mess is completely wrong..the SC Dem primary. <<
Good point. To clarify, independents swung South Carolina. The Democratic primary was considered non-competitive. Polls showed Huckabee narrowly winning South Caroline, but McCain won. It’s quite possible that this was due to Thompson, as McCain’s proxy, hammering Huckabee.
Is it a possibility? Absolutely! Reasons?
1) Cain comes across not as a conservative, but a vibrant man of the people. He speaks somewhat like a colorful black pastor, and makes sense to the average man.
2) Most black voters prefer to vote for a black candidate. Helping the republicans field a black candidate would ensure that the winner in 2012 would be a black man. Kinda a win-win. That in no way implies that many will vote for Cain come November.
3) If dems crossed over in 2008 to “help” us pick McCain, why would they not do it again? After all, it worked perfectly last time. Some may cross over and “help” us pick Romney this time, too. For the black dems, though, why not saddle those “racist republicans” with a black candidate?
Even white libs might think that a Cain nomination would be the ultimate slap in the face to bible totin, gun lovin, racist republicans. (Oh, please don’t throw us into THAT brier patch! They have NO idea that their view of us is so skewed)
4) If Perry comes back strong, dems- black or white, might cross over and vote Cain or Romney to block Perry
“Anyone know what portion of the black vote Tim Scott won?”
I can’t find the breakdown on that demographic, but if there is a difference between black Democrats and black liberals, it will be found in conservative black churches. That’s where polls might shed some light on what will happen when a conservative black man runs against Obama. ...Does race matter among conservative white voters? I think Tim Scott proves it doesn’t.
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