[Clairity]

I think we need to put all Perry’s positives and negatives on the scale.

Positives:

Pro-life

Pro-gun/2nd Amendment

Pro-Small government

Anti-Tax

Anti-regulation

a “global warming skeptic” — suing the EPA, realizing it’s a job-killer

He has a record of low taxes, low regulation, pro-private enterprise and job creation

Pro-secure border: asked for Naional Guard troops for the border, spent Texas money to secure the border, because the Federal government wouldn’t do it, wants “boots on the ground” to secure the border — for the terrain and river fence is not the best solution, his ideas are better for Texas, he DOES want to secure the border

He said he will repeal Obamacare

He took on trial lawyers and won

Excellent fund raising ability (needed to beat Romney and Obama)

Palin endorsed him and campaigned for him for his reelection campaign and called him “a true conservative”

He can talk without a teleprompter and his speeches are just fine

Negatives:

After Texas Legislature passed law to give in-state tuition to children of illegal immigrants, with only four votes against him, he didn’t veto the measure, “to make a statement”, when his veto would have been easily overridden.

Foot-in-mouth in the debate — let he/she who never said something they regretted throw the first stone, especially after hours of everyone ganging up on him over one or two issues

Are Perry’s negatives so bad that we should rather have Romney walk away with the nomination and then be beaten by Obama? THIS is the real question. Let us take a step back and consider the above.

[Kartographer]

Sarah endorsed him for Governor of Texas, but she said this about the candidates on the stage at the last debate: “Herm Cain is the one up there who doesn’t look like he’s part of that permanent political class. He came from a working class family. He’s had to make it on his own all these years. We respect that. He has an automatic connection with the electorate. We can all relate to him. He knows the issues and problems we face every day and he’s determined to do something about it.”

[normy]

I am convinced Perry is going to win this thing.

Cain is a likable guy, so was Palin but when it comes down to it this election is about results.

Obama's stats vs. Perry on job creation and REAL issues like life,gun control, monetary policy and individual and states rights

Obama stats vs. Cains stats and Obama's stats vs. Mitt's stats on all the issues I just mentioned.

Perry is by far the most vocal and most consistent on all those issues and the polar opposite of Obama.

This is a stats election, not a personality election.

[af_vet_rr]

After Texas Legislature passed law to give in-state tuition to children of illegal immigrants, with only four votes against him, he didn’t veto the measure, “to make a statement”, when his veto would have been easily overridden.

Why would he veto it? He came out and strongly defended that same legislation in 2007, and then defended it again in 2011 in the last debate. Why would he veto something he supports so strongly?

He can talk without a teleprompter and his speeches are just fine

You've not seen him in many debates, have you? Or seen his stellar performance discussing abstinence education which has the same air as his gubernatorial debates, that is stumble and try to avoid questions.

Meanwhile, Herman Cain takes on the View women, takes their toughest questions, and doesn't break a sweat.

[max americana]

>Are Perry’s negatives so bad that we should rather have Romney walk away with the nomination and then be beaten by Obama?<

We shall see during the primaries. It’s hard to think that Cain’s sole purpose is to sell books when he is given the chance to use the surge in ratings just to even up with Myth and Gardasil boy.

What raises my eyebrow is how can he “slip” and claim tiredness when Cain has been in the race longer than he did and he said we were HEARTLESS in opposing illegal aliens tuition? That’s my and a good number of Freepers’ issue.

[BobL]

I can help with these:

“After Texas Legislature passed law to give in-state tuition to children of illegal immigrants, with only four votes against him, he didn’t veto the measure, ‘to make a statement’, when his veto would have been easily overridden.”

Let’s consider a few things here, shall we? First, the Texas Dream Act applies to ILLEGALS to happen to be children. Second, this was during Perry’s honeymoon - hell he could have gotten the Rubber-Stamp legislature to give him carte-blanche to sell off control of our highways and to start the biggest land-grab in the history of the country (wait...he did do that, we just haven’t discussed that little issue with him). Third, if Perry didn’t want the Dream Act, as you’re trying to imply, WHY THE HELL DOES HE KEEP DEFENDING IT, and then call us heartless?

“’Foot-in-mouth in the debate’ let he/she who never said something they regretted throw the first stone, especially after hours of everyone ganging up on him over one or two issues”

You could only wish. The reason this is KILLING him is because when people are tired, you start to see their REAL PERSONALITY come out. And people don’t like the little peak they got of Perry. He has NEVER had to deal with serious opposition either in becoming governor or maintaining the governorship...and now we know EXACTLY how he will treat people that want a secure border (and likely will treat people who oppose him on other pet projects of his, like selling off control of our highways), should he become president.

“Are Perry’s negatives so bad that we should rather have Romney walk away with the nomination and then be beaten by Obama? THIS is the real question. Let us take a step back and consider the above.”

Seems to me that there are now two top-tier candidates now, and that Perry is not one of them. So the line that it’s Perry or Romney is getting a bit STALE. This is particularly true if other conservatives line up behind Cain...and if they do (which I expect), then it’s over, and your DREADED NIGHTMARE of Romney never happens.

[Boston Blackie]

Negatives: After Texas Legislature passed law to give in-state tuition to children of illegal immigrants, with only four votes against him, he didn’t veto the measure, “to make a statement”, when his veto would have been easily overridden. Foot-in-mouth in the debate — let he/she who never said something they regretted throw the first stone, especially after hours of everyone ganging up on him over one or two issues Are Perry’s negatives so bad that we should rather have Romney walk away with the nomination and then be beaten by Obama? THIS is the real question. Let us take a step back and consider the above.

I want to thank you for all the time and effort expended in your extensive research of all the issues listed in your negatives list.