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Cain flip-flops on due process for Americans, criticizes Perry
United Liberty ^ | 10-7-2011 | Jason Pye

Posted on 10/07/2011 9:02:40 PM PDT by smoothsailing

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To: MNJohnnie
>>>>>Make the case for Perry without mentioning any other candidate. I bet not ONE of you can do it.

You don’t get elected Governor of the most conservative state in the union three times if you’re not doing a good job. Perry has a solid conservative executive governing record for the last 11 years. He’s worked hard to keep his state competitive in creating jobs, keeping taxes low with restraints on spending. Along with serious tort reform and reductions in regulations.

If he became potus Perry would govern as a fiscal conservative and reign in spending and regulations. With a GOP Congress on his side Perry would also lower taxes, then work on real entitlement and tax reform. Those policies and rolling back Obamacare would set in motion serious economic growth that would help to create jobs everywhere in America.

Perry supports a strong military and national defense, lower taxes and less spending, limited govt, tax-tort- regulation and entitlement reform, is pro-life, pro-gun, pro-traditional marriage, pro-family, pro-Constitution and opposes blanket amnesty.

Perry is a Reagan conservative. All the way.

61 posted on 10/07/2011 9:46:44 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: shield; chesty_puller
Please at least try to be accurate on the time line. Cain was asked a question. he answer it honestly.

Within minutes the Perry supporters rushed around whining about how “Cain had attacked Perry”

All the while the Perry camp had been engaging in every sort of slander, lie and innuendo about Cain they could dream up for days.

Here is a notion for you. Make a case FOR Perry.

Just do it ONE time.

It would be a refreshing change from this non stop slander based Cult of Personality bot behavior we are seeing from the Perry camp.

You all either whine about how tough it is for Perry, make up fantasies about some conspiracy to "get Perry" or you are busy slandering everyone else.

What is Perry Presidential plan and agenda? Plans and ideas NOT slogans and “He was a great guy in Texas” bloviating

Where is it?

Make the case for Perry without mentioning any other candidate. I bet not ONE of you can do it.

62 posted on 10/07/2011 9:46:57 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: smoothsailing

Let he who has never changed their mind, or their position based on further information or reflection, or forgotten one statement (out of 100s if not 1,000s) made 6 months ago - let them cast the first stone!


63 posted on 10/07/2011 9:47:41 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: Polybius

I do find it interesting that neither Cain nor Bachmann have engaged in attacks on Romney.


64 posted on 10/07/2011 9:47:45 PM PDT by alicewonders
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To: smoothsailing

Vetting - not sure you mean what you seem to be saying..

To the MSM - it means finding out everything negative that they can find out about a Republican candidate.

For Democrats - means finding out everything positive that they can find about the candidate.

Now let’s see - the MSM finds negative things about the conservative candidate but reports positively about the Democratic candidate...hmmm, seem like good news to me...

Well, you can take you vetting by the media and shove it up your throat!


65 posted on 10/07/2011 9:48:31 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Reagan Man
Same challenge for you. Please at least try to be accurate on the time line. Cain was asked a question. he answer it honestly.

Within minutes the Perry supporters rushed around whining about how “Cain had attacked Perry”

All the while the Perry camp had been engaging in every sort of slander, lie and innuendo about Cain they could dream up for days.

Here is a notion for you. Make a case FOR Perry.

Just do it ONE time.

It would be a refreshing change from this non stop slander based Cult of Personality bot behavior we are seeing from the Perry camp.

You all either whine about how tough it is for Perry, make up fantasies about some conspiracy to "get Perry" or you are busy slandering everyone else.

What is Perry Presidential plan and agenda? Plans and ideas NOT slogans and “He was a great guy in Texas” bloviating

Where is it?

Make the case for Perry without mentioning any other candidate. I bet not ONE of you can do it.

66 posted on 10/07/2011 9:48:45 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Deagle

W had that in the Patriot Act...I do see your point when I think about it. Our lovely DOJ went through everything thoroughly and gave the thumbs up on the action.


67 posted on 10/07/2011 9:48:57 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: shield; Deagle
Sorry, can't agree. It's a violation of the Constitution. If the two Americans had been killed while in a battle, or in pursuit with other terrorists, and not specifically targeted by the President, I'd agree with you completely. But the President has no authority to target an American citizen for death by Executive Order. He simply doesn't:

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

I see two violations here: Anwar al-Awlaki was (clearly) a traitor to the United States, a capital crime, executed without the presentment of an indictment. He was deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process. If a FISA Court -- or even a military tribunal -- had found him guilty of waging war against the United States, there would be no issue. But the President of the United States is not part of "due process."

He was killed in a country we are not at war with, so the President's war making power has dubious applicability. Bin Laden, and 99.999% of the other terrorists aren't entitled to Constitutional protections. Unfortunately, the two Americans killed in Yemen were.

I am very happy he's dead. I'm very happy the other American is dead, too. But you cannot possibly believe that it's a good idea to give Barack 0bama the authority to kill a US citizen on his own authority. It isn't.

68 posted on 10/07/2011 9:49:41 PM PDT by FredZarguna (We'll keep Independence Hall. New Jersey can have all the rest.)
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To: seton89

Do some research. I’m on a tablet so I don’t have the links on hand but he has no problem denying certain religions the right to practice their faith and he thinks that the 2 amendment is a states issue.


69 posted on 10/07/2011 9:50:25 PM PDT by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: MNJohnnie
>>>>>Same challenge for you.

Are you blind? See #61 and try to control yourself.

Told you earlier, stop eating those bennies like their candy. They'll kill ya, boy! LOL

70 posted on 10/07/2011 9:51:34 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: alicewonders
"neither Cain nor Bachmann have engaged in attacks on Romney."

Never gonna happen.

71 posted on 10/07/2011 9:51:41 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: alicewonders

>> Herman Cain still has a lot of vetting to go through.

Vetting?

Orientation. I trust he’ll be okay.


72 posted on 10/07/2011 9:52:13 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been Redistributed. Here's your damn Change!)
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To: Deagle
Sorry, but that is just wrong! No American whatever his power has the sanction to condemn another American to death.

The scum lost his citizenship when he plotted against the United States. The Constitution is not a suicide pact, we have the right to stop those trying to kill us by any means necessary.

United States Code, TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part III > § 1481 Loss of nationality by native-born or naturalized citizen;

(3) entering, or serving in, the armed forces of a foreign state if (A) such armed forces are engaged in hostilities against the United States,

73 posted on 10/07/2011 9:52:22 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Reagan Man

Thank You!


74 posted on 10/07/2011 9:52:22 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I don’t think it disqualifies him, he’s extremely qualified. I just like Perry better. Maybe it’s the Harley.:)


75 posted on 10/07/2011 9:52:54 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: MNJohnnie
>>>>>>Make the case for Perry without mentioning any other candidate. I bet not ONE of you can do it.

I just did! I didn't mention any other candidate either. Just the facts!

Gonna run away again?

76 posted on 10/07/2011 9:53:38 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: FredZarguna

Very nicely said!


77 posted on 10/07/2011 9:53:56 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: MNJohnnie

Perrywinkles???


78 posted on 10/07/2011 9:54:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: NavyCanDo; smoothsailing
Starting with Perry Tuesday. Mark my words one of the questions to him will be if he thinks Mormonism is Christian. His supporter stepped in that one for him, and he is the one having to scrape the poop of his boots.

What looks worse to the average voter in America?

A.) To have a supporter of a candidate play "The Mormon Card"?

B.) To have a candidate HIMSELF play "The Mormon Card".

Herman Cain: Mitt Romney Can’t Win Because He’s A Mormon (VIDEO)

79 posted on 10/07/2011 9:55:25 PM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama should be Priority Number One.)
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To: Reagan Man

Thank you for proving my point.

You cannot make a case FOR Perry, you can only recklessly attack everyone else or whine about how Perry has supposedly been treated.

Utterly absurd for the Perry campaign to complain now given the reckless arrogant tactics they have been engaging in.


80 posted on 10/07/2011 9:56:23 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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