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Yankees Abroad: John Sayles’s surprisingly evenhanded new film on the Philippine-American War
City Journal ^ | 23 September 2011 | Ryan L. Cole

Posted on 10/14/2011 6:26:39 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: No Left Turn

Dude. That is an EPIC tale. Cyber high five.


21 posted on 10/14/2011 9:06:18 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Newt. The antidote to Romney.)
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To: neverdem

Must have been tough to be a Marine doing tour over there with a bunch of impoverished Michelle Malkins running around. I’m not sayng, I’m just saying.


22 posted on 10/14/2011 9:07:56 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Newt. The antidote to Romney.)
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To: GeronL

They were warned by the Spanish that Americans would not accept their Roman Catholicism; they were right. We have sodomites in our military; they don’t. They are also allowed to pray in school; we pray to Mother Earth and global warming. The Filipinos were right to reject us; they are inheriting the earth. Now they work in my home state of NJ, having families while Americans buy new cars instead of having children. They are very “Irish” (no apostles sent, receiving the Word second- or third- hand) and living like the early Jewish followers of Christ (persecution & all).


23 posted on 10/14/2011 10:07:07 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: max americana

As a Catholic I must say that Filipinos are as Catholic as Mexicans, in a good way; we Americans never had the Virgin of Guadalupe appear, and it shows. Tagalog doesn’t have a word for “gay marriage”, because they are God’s people; their war against Moros on Mindanao reinforces their beliefs, while we believe Islam is compatible with our way of life.

I’m not Filipino, but I understand why God lets them spread around the globe; they deserve it, and suffer for it.


24 posted on 10/14/2011 10:11:26 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: NYFreeper

“She told me the Spanish gave the Philippines religion. The Americans gave them education.”

Which was the better of the 2? The Filipinos have made it clear which was more important for them; if they were an American state they’d be required to let perverts in their military & government. No matter what they think of Spain in hindsight, Spain (at the time) was Catholic; what else matters?


25 posted on 10/14/2011 10:14:53 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: GeronL

My wife is from Mindano: Overall Mindano is mostly Christian, with both Catholics and Protestants well represented. Only in certain parts of Mindano are Muslims in the majority (and of course those areas are where most of the armed-conflict type trouble is.)


26 posted on 10/14/2011 10:21:20 PM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: max americana

Here in NJ you can’t get a “customer service job” (bank teller, cashier, telemarketer, etc.) without speaking Spanish, Portuguese, or Ordu; the empire has already fallen. Americans need not apply (so they are leaving); before the “bully” Christie arrived, his DEM predecessor admitted that without ILLEGAL immigration NJ had lost population. Whatever you think of Christie, he wants the state to be a place where AMERICANS (besides cops & schoolteachers) can live...


27 posted on 10/14/2011 10:21:23 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Sherman Logan

Ethiopia & Liberia were free; when enough of the brown people picked up guns, they all became free.


28 posted on 10/14/2011 10:23:26 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: No Left Turn

LOL!


29 posted on 10/14/2011 10:35:00 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem; Travis McGee; Pelham

Race baiting pc vomit alert posting on this thread...just sayin


30 posted on 10/15/2011 1:00:35 AM PDT by wardaddy (we have entered whatever land here on FR..maybe we will find our bearing again some day)
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To: Paul R.

Does your wife have a sister? :p


31 posted on 10/15/2011 12:33:15 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: kearnyirish2
Which was the better of the 2?

Well since they already had religion, the Americans didn't need to give it to them so therefore we gave them the next best thing. Are you saying that since they had religion under the Spanish, that's all they needed and they were better off with them than under the Americans?

32 posted on 10/15/2011 11:16:25 PM PDT by NYFreeper
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks neverdem.


33 posted on 10/16/2011 6:01:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NYFreeper

“Are you saying that since they had religion under the Spanish, that’s all they needed and they were better off with them than under the Americans?”

As a Roman Catholic faith supersedes all else; we certainly contributed much to the Philippines, but not that. Americans have a different version of history than Filipinos do. Their initial “independence” celebration they held when Spain left was the only one they had for decades. They fought us as they had fought Spain. Spain has left an indelible mark on the Filipinos in terms of language, faith, and culture; today the Philippines bears little resemblance to the United States.


34 posted on 10/16/2011 7:01:06 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2
while we believe Islam is compatible with our way of life.

Just who is this "we"? Zero and the Bushies may, but certainly no FReepers or non-FReepers that I know of.

35 posted on 10/16/2011 7:47:12 AM PDT by metesky (Brethren, leave us go amongst them! - Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond, The Searchers)
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To: metesky

“Zero and the Bushies may, but certainly no FReepers or non-FReepers that I know of.”

True; I should have been more specific. The “people who determine which foreigners can move next door to me” believe Islam is compatible with our way of life.


36 posted on 10/16/2011 8:09:18 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2
As a Roman Catholic faith supersedes all else;

As a Roman Catholic, I also agree that that faith supersedes all else. Faith should be first in life, but it is not a panacea for all of life's challenges.

today the Philippines bears little resemblance to the United States.

I would disagree, it bears a good deal of resemblance to the US. They may be ahead of us in the faith department, but don't sell the US short. Contrary to what you see in the MSM, liberals that worship "mother earth" are a very small minority here. It was never the intention of the US to make the Philippines into a carbon copy of the US or a US state for that matter. The Philippines today is a dynamic republic that practices democracy pretty well. It has a well developed education system, a vibrant economy, and very little socialism. The US certainly deserves some credit for this. The Philippines is still a trusted ally and the US is still respected there.

37 posted on 10/16/2011 9:07:16 PM PDT by NYFreeper
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To: NYFreeper

“Contrary to what you see in the MSM, liberals that worship “mother earth” are a very small minority here.”

Whatever you want to call them, we have a lot of people that support legalized abortion, and a significant number (though not near a majority) that support “gay marriage”. Some would kindly say they worship mother earth; others would rightly say they worship the Devil. Whether you want to connect it to faith or not, the American family has been under assault (successfully) for decades; I don’t see this antipathy in Filipinos.


38 posted on 10/17/2011 4:10:01 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2
we have a lot of people that support legalized abortion,

Yes, that is one of our biggest problems. I lot of people don't know it, but they are indirectly worshiping the devil by doing this.

I see we also share a common heritage. I'm happy that at least Ireland still outlaws abortions.

39 posted on 10/17/2011 4:14:40 PM PDT by NYFreeper
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To: Owl558

Our bond with the Philipino people is something Americans should be proud of.


I agree...but i am seriously biased ;)


40 posted on 10/17/2011 5:03:22 PM PDT by chasio649
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