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MSNBC Host: Why Should People Have Guns When We Have Cops
Townhall.com ^ | November 1, 2011 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 11/01/2011 3:27:53 PM PDT by Kaslin

As I always say, you can be a victim, or not, the choice is yours.

Yesterday, Spartanburg County Sheriff Chuck Wright of South Carolina told women during a news conference to obtain their concealed weapons permit in order to better protect themselves from rapists and criminals in the area.

The sheriff of Spartanburg County, S.C., turned a news conference about an attempted rape in his community into an extended rant Monday in which he slammed a criminal justice system preferred by "liberals" for failing to keep the repeat-offender suspect behind bars -- and implored the women in his community to pack heat for self-protection.


"I want you to get a concealed weapons permit," Sheriff Chuck Wright said at the Monday news conference, as reported by TV station WYFF. "Don't get Mace. Get a firearm."

The sheriff alleged that a 46-year-old man named Walter Lance abducted a woman while she was walking her dog Sunday afternoon and attempted to rape her.

Lance was arrested and charged with kidnapping, first-degree criminal sexual conduct and grand larceny, the Spartanburg Herald-Journal reported.


In the news conference, Wright said Lance had been convicted of 20 crimes dating back to 1983, including disorderly conduct, domestic violence, assault and battery with intent to kill, and resisting arrest, among others.

"Now if anybody sitting in this room had been charged with any of that stuff, they'd probably be finding a tall oak tree and a short rope for us," Wright said.

"I can tell you that our form of justice is not making it," he stated. "This fellow that has been charged numerous times for crimes against women and crime in society ... he's been in jail more times than I have, and I'm the dad-blame [guy] over the jail over there. And he seems to get out quicker than I can get out. And I am aggravated.


"I've had liberals call me and tell me, 'The chain gang is not going to work.' Well, let me inform you that your form of justice isn't working either."

Wright suggested that the women of Spartanburg carry their weapons in fanny packs. "You can conceal a small pistol in them," he said. "They got one called The Judge that shoots a .45 or a .410 shell. You ain't got to be accurate. You just have to get close."

This Sheriff should be applauded and is absolutely correct in his suggestions. Yes, law enforcement is an important piece of society however, ultimately it is up to the individual to protect themselves, in particular women because they are biologically weaker than men and easy targets for assault.

However, unsurprisingly MSNBC fill-in host Craig Melvin seems to be more worried about the fate of potential rapists, rather than the safety of women. During an interview with Sheriff Wright today, Melvin suggested law enforcement should be the only necessary protection for women and society against criminals. At the beginning of the interview, Melvin asked:

Sheriff, if law enforcement is charged with protecting the public, then, then, then why should that not be sufficient? Why should folks have to go out and get guns and arm themselves if we've got cops?

To which Wright responded: 

We can't be everywhere, and we are a fool if we tell everybody that we can take care of all of our problems.

Later in the interview Melvin has the audacity to suggest a woman defending herself against rape is "implying guilt rather than innocence."

Melvin: If women are shooting potential attackers, aren't they presuming guilt before innocence? What if a woman kills an attacker? Isn't that opening another whole legal can of worms?

Sheriff Wright: Well, it's easy to fix that. Just don't attack a woman.... I know that this is controversial, but I do believe that people who believe in the Second Amendment and believe that they should arm themselves have a right to do so, as long as they're trained properly.


Melvin was also shocked to learn the Sheriff suggested women use a .45 calibur handgun to get the job done. What did he think the Sheriff was going to suggest? Spitballs? A rubber band gun?

Here is a reality check for Craig Melvin: The most violent cities in the country, Chicago, Detroit, New York City, all have extremely strict gun laws. Being armed is a deterrent to criminals, plain and simple. If criminals know there is potential to get shot, they think twice about attacking you. Women have every right to protect themselves against rape, murder or other violent crimes by carrying a concealed weapon and yes, if they are attacked, have the right (in most states anyway) to shoot their attacker in self-defense. It is obvious Melvin has never done a single ounce of research about concealed carry. Women can't wait around to find out the intentions of an attacker; women who do that end up dead in a ditch somewhere. His implied sympathy for rapists and his idea that women shouldn't defend themselves because they might "kill their attacker," is pathetic.

As the saying goes: When seconds count, the cops are minutes away.

H/T Media Research Center


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To: Kaslin

Because when you only have seconds, they’ll be there in minutes.


41 posted on 11/01/2011 4:03:03 PM PDT by steve8714 (Where there were two, now there's only me. When will I laugh again?)
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To: Kaslin; All

In Norway, they have strict gun control laws, and the perp that killed dozens had 90 minutes to plink away at every kid he could see, and the cops weren’t there.

What could have been the outcome if one single individual could have made him take cover until the police arrived?

Norway is an example as to why people need to be responsible to themselves and their loved ones and should not rely on the police, unless they are already there.


42 posted on 11/01/2011 4:04:07 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota (Which are you? A producer, a looter, or a moocher of wealth?)
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To: Venturer

My wife (late 60’s) and I (early 70’s) live on our secluded thirteen acre farm in a very rural area up in the mountains of the western part of the Republic of Panama. It is very difficult for a gringo to get a firearm permit here and it can take years. I have a BB pistol, for which no permit is currently required. It looks at a distance of about three meters something like a real pistol.

The roads are dirt and the nearest police station is about twenty KM away; they often have insufficient gasoline for their car. Our nearest neighbor is about three KM away by road. Were we attacked in our home, we would be on our own. Fortunately, we have security lights and three loud, large and loyal dogs who sleep on their own mattresses in our bedroom. They would alert us. Would my air pistol be sufficient to deter a burglar or worse? Our spray bottle of ammonia water? Pepper spray? I rather doubt it but since that’s all we can get we’d have to find out if such a situation presented itself.

Please, don’t allow it to be that way in the United States.


43 posted on 11/01/2011 4:05:29 PM PDT by DanMiller (Dan Miller)
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To: Howie66

That’s the ONLY way his thinking will change.


44 posted on 11/01/2011 4:05:29 PM PDT by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: Safrguns
Answer: “To protect ourselves from the bad cops” (If needed)

Not all policemen are bad, just saying

45 posted on 11/01/2011 4:07:37 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
The police do not prevent crimes. Even when they know of someone who poses a potential threat, as in domestic violence cases, they cannot act until the crime has been committed. I guess that it could be argued that they prevent any future crimes once they arrest the perpetrator, but that's small comfort to the victim.
Murders, rapes and robberies are committed EVERY DAY in this country. I'm amazed that anyone can actually bring themselves to believe that all or any of these crimes can be prevented by the police. When was the last time you heard about the police preventing a crime? Bruce Willis only comes crashing through the door at the last minute to save your sorry a$$ in hollywood.

Next time you're in trouble,
Call the cops.
Call for an ambulance.
Order a pizza.
See who gets there first.

46 posted on 11/01/2011 4:08:55 PM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: Kaslin
Why Should People Have Guns When We Have Cops

Because of the aspiring tyrants in the political class and social elites.

47 posted on 11/01/2011 4:09:29 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: Kaslin

Why waste time explaining the obvious to an idiot who should be able to figure out the answer on his own?


48 posted on 11/01/2011 4:10:24 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Kaslin

Katie Pavlich, IS YET ANOTHER TYPICAL LIBERAL RETARD DEMBOSLUT, WHO EVNTUALLY BE FOUND BEATEN, TORTURED, RAPED, AND DEAD IN AN UNMARKED SHALLOW GRAVE...COMPLENTS OF ONE OF HER “BROTHER” DEMOLIBERALS.


49 posted on 11/01/2011 4:10:31 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi)
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To: Ladysmith

That’s one result that I could live with. ;)


50 posted on 11/01/2011 4:11:21 PM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: Kaslin
Sheriff, if law enforcement is charged with protecting the public, then, then, then why should that not be sufficient? Why should folks have to go out and get guns and arm themselves if we've got cops?

And what do we see these cops usually doing? The ones round here can be found endlessly cruising busy streets i.e. the kind where street and property crime are rather low due to the presence of...everybody else. They're also fond of 4th Amendment bonfires i.e. DUI checkpoints. Meanwhile residences are burgled, drugs are sold, illegal immigrants pour in, etc.

We had surveillance footage i.e. our own mug shot of a burglar at a business. Someone stepped forward to identify him. The police took all this information and did...nothing. No arrest, no questioning.

Somehow when my life or the life of a loved one is in danger I don't think the police will be arriving in the nick of time.

51 posted on 11/01/2011 4:11:40 PM PDT by relictele
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To: Noumenon

Married to one of the blonde ESPN chicks (she occasionally guest hosts SportsNation)


52 posted on 11/01/2011 4:12:49 PM PDT by relictele
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To: Kaslin

When seconds count, the police a minutes away.

Typical liberal scum sucker.


53 posted on 11/01/2011 4:13:34 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Kaslin

Well the problem is that douchbags liek this “host”, along with neofeminsits and gun grabbers everywhere is the isistence that there is somethign unique about American society which leads to a higher propensity for rape, burglary, assault, battery and murder than, say for example, the UK, France, Canada, Holland or Spain. And therefore having guns doesnt correct how American society makes people become attackers and rapists, so there’s no point to having concealed guns.

So they cant understand that if you place the blame entirely on the criminals, it necessarily implies that having firearms is a necessity since no kind of change in our culture will eliminate or make neglegible the issue of sexual assault, burglery or any other kind of assault.


54 posted on 11/01/2011 4:14:58 PM PDT by emax
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To: DGHoodini
That is a pretty harsh thing to say about a woman who wrote the following line...

This Sheriff should be applauded and is absolutely correct in his suggestions.

55 posted on 11/01/2011 4:16:18 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Kaslin
It would be funny to see Craig Melvin show how calling the Police is the answer say when some maniac is attacking him with a ball bat. It would be an excellent news-piece he could give commentary as his attacker wails on his Liberal ass , well at least while he remains alive and conscious.
56 posted on 11/01/2011 4:16:31 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Kaslin

How is it that is only acceptable that cops have guns?


57 posted on 11/01/2011 4:19:34 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: cripplecreek; Kaslin
Because I can’t carry a cop.

Nor does your gun receive a salary, benefits and a pension, take sick days or take donut breaks, let alone have other calls to respond to while you're in trouble. In fact, you can buy a very nice gun made for concealed carry, plus a holster or two and a bunch of ammo for the weekly paycheck of a single cop.

No knock on (most) cops, but they simple cannot be everywhere at once (and I wouldn't want to be living in a society where anything close to that was the case).

These anti-gun libs have their heads up their rear ends (or just haven't had the misfortune of being mugged, etc. - which I certainly do NOT wish upon them or anyone else).

58 posted on 11/01/2011 4:19:34 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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To: Kaslin

I haven’t been able to fit a cop in my jockey box/glove box.


59 posted on 11/01/2011 4:20:25 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Kaslin

I thought liberals hated cops?


60 posted on 11/01/2011 4:20:31 PM PDT by ari-freedom ("Perry: good governor. Romney: Good hair."-Herman Cain)
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