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A Last Bastion of Civility, the South, Sees Manners Decline
The New York Times ^
| 11/1/11
| Kim Severson
Posted on 11/03/2011 1:43:37 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: Bitsy
You must be mistaken, sir. Yes, we do have white trash but they wouldnt move to Ohio. Come to Columbus and Cincinnati and behold the trash.
Look up US-23 and note the label, "Hillbilly Highway."
To: Buckeye McFrog
I can proudly say both my parents are from Savannah and raised me accordingly...▲
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posted on
11/03/2011 2:29:53 PM PDT
by
ßuddaßudd
(7 days - 7 ways a Guero y Guay Lao << >> with a floating, shifting, ever changing)
To: texas_mrs
I dont see where the story says the women asked for the seats. The bartender asked the men to give up the seats for the women who were standing behind.If the women accepted the seats, they're as bad as the bartender.
The bar was committing an act of discrimination, but as usual, men are treated as second class citizens in today's America.
To: buccaneer81
“If you’re in line at the grocery store would you let the woman in line behind you go ahead of you? I think not.”
Not a fair comparison - at the grocery store, there’s probably good wine involved that needs imminent drinking. :-)
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posted on
11/03/2011 2:30:44 PM PDT
by
jagusafr
("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
To: marshmallow
If those were white women, and the seated men were black, I’m sure they offered to let them sit on their laps.....look around today.
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posted on
11/03/2011 2:31:02 PM PDT
by
traditional1
("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
To: sima_yi
Well, I googled that, and got a wikipedia page all about good money and bad money. Who knew there was bad money. I thought all money was good! My world has been shattered....
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posted on
11/03/2011 2:31:36 PM PDT
by
brytlea
(An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
To: Red Badger
Damn yankees!........... Yankees are like hemorrhoids
The ones who come down and go back up
are not so bad
The ones who come down and stay
are a pain in the .SS
Oh yes...
I was born in New Jersey
Moved to Atlanta in 1964
To: DManA
Not me, altho I am strange...
48
posted on
11/03/2011 2:33:14 PM PDT
by
brytlea
(An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
To: runninglips
"The worst whoopin I ever received from my Father was after such an incident. We had a BBQ at my parents home, there were enough seats for all but one. I took it, and did not offer to give it to my female cousin when dad asked me to. I said, I was here first...I was about 16 or so. He picked me up by my collar...a little hair was involved, opened the back door with my face, opened the bedroom door with my face, then threw me into the bed. He said nicely, when you can apologize honestly, you can return to the party. I never left my room for the duration...lol. BIG MISTAKE, now he would be arrested. Of course then he would have left marks."GREAT STORY!
I can identify with that, and today, I sure miss the Good ol' Days, when manners and decency prevailed.
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posted on
11/03/2011 2:33:46 PM PDT
by
traditional1
("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
To: jagusafr
Awesome motto! Here in Palm Beach I try to smile at everyone I meet (some days it’s not possible, but most days I still do it). Most of the time I’m met with a scowl more often than not, but occasionally, the frowniest person will give me that look and I think..ok, its not working and then...they smile! Makes my day. :) I know I sound like Pollyanna, but really, what’s the point of not at least trying? I know they probably think I’m trying to steal their purse...
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posted on
11/03/2011 2:37:12 PM PDT
by
brytlea
(An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
To: Spirit of Liberty
My blessed, sainted grandmother used to call anyone uncivilized -
“Blue Devils”
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posted on
11/03/2011 2:37:23 PM PDT
by
atc23
(The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
To: buccaneer81
I must agree that media regularly degrade and ridicule men. I have been complaining about if for some time now. But I respect my man and he respects me. He would readily give up his seat for a lady. I would give mine up as well for any older person of any gender. I think Southern hospitality still reigns here in Texas. For now, at least.
To say the bartender was discriminating sounds like words right out of the mouth of a liberal.
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posted on
11/03/2011 2:42:11 PM PDT
by
texas_mrs
(Heartless Conservative & Native Texan)
To: brytlea
It is sort of an odd anecdote for a story about lost chivalry. In the olden days when men treated women with respect there was no rule about giving way to gals coming to belly up to the bar. They weren’t allowed into the bar.
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posted on
11/03/2011 2:43:18 PM PDT
by
DManA
To: texas_mrs
To say the bartender was discriminating sounds like words right out of the mouth of a liberal.He was intentionally favoring one gender over another in a place of public accommodation. That is discrimination.
To: DManA
I have to admit, I don’t recall a man ever offering me his bar stool, mostly because I don’t frequent bars. I don’t think I’ve ever gone into one unescorted. Of course, I was under the legal drinking age when I got married. :)
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posted on
11/03/2011 2:46:45 PM PDT
by
brytlea
(An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
To: GladesGuru
members of a priviliged class, allowed to be crude, rude, lewd, and also
Tattooed... there, finished it.
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posted on
11/03/2011 2:49:59 PM PDT
by
Don Corleone
("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
To: marshmallow
I believe there is a decline. Holding a door for anyone behind you, or for someone about to exit is something I was taught to do. These days young men don’t even have the courtesy of saying thank you.
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posted on
11/03/2011 2:51:50 PM PDT
by
JustaDumbBlonde
(Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
To: brytlea
Here in Palm Beach I try to smile at everyone I meet
When I moved to San Antonio (from a town of 3,000) & would go out to lunch with my new friends, I would say HI to anybody who looked my way. My friends were mortified, because alot of them were men who they suspected were hitting on us.
When one of them (big-city girl) went 'back home' with me to visit, she noticed someone wave at me when we passed them on the county road & asked "Who was that?"
I said "I dunno."
"But you waved back." she said. I told her "Everyone waves at everybody here." She thought that was fantastic.
Funny how you don't really think about stuff like that until you see it from another's point of view.
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posted on
11/03/2011 2:52:34 PM PDT
by
texas_mrs
(Heartless Conservative & Native Texan)
To: brytlea
I live in Palm Beach County as well. I like to think that I am at least as chivalrous as any of my contemporaries. You will note that the two guys in question were handed a menu which they were pondering. I would not give up my seat to anyone so they could sit while I tried to eat standing up.
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posted on
11/03/2011 2:52:51 PM PDT
by
Ax
To: vetvetdoug
Manners used to be important until women wanted things both ways.
^^^
I must say I agree with you there.
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posted on
11/03/2011 3:25:37 PM PDT
by
Bigg Red
(Maryland girl, born and bred)
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