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Perry endorses work visas for illegal immigrants
Las Vegas Sun ^ | Nov. 3, 2011 | The Associated Press

Posted on 11/03/2011 5:24:19 PM PDT by moonshinner_09

Texas Gov. Rick Perry says America should extend work visas to allow illegal immigrants to move freely between the U.S. and their home countries _ but opposes a path to citizenship.

(Excerpt) Read more at lasvegassun.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: alien; aliens; amnesty; clueless; criminals; duplicate; heartless; idiot; illegals; immigration; migrantworkers; moron; perry; perry4amnesty; perry4illegals; perrylovesillegals; rino; workvisa
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To: moonshinner_09

Hang it up, Ricky. It’s a lost cause.


51 posted on 11/03/2011 6:15:35 PM PDT by Savage Beast (A backwoods southern lawyer is a safer trustee for your soul than a Washington politician.)
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To: mylife

“Get back to me when you can tell me Cains stance on work visa’s.”

So now you guys are also into ATTACKING CAIN without producing one shred of evidence.

Just like your boss...


52 posted on 11/03/2011 6:16:24 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Gingrich is a vote for Romney)
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To: moonshinner_09

But SHAME SHAME Double SHAME on Romney for letting illegals cut his lawn.


53 posted on 11/03/2011 6:16:59 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: moonshinner_09

How about get your asses out of here and pick up your garbage on the way out!! Geez whats wrong with our leaders??!!?!?


54 posted on 11/03/2011 6:17:18 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: UniqueViews

Stop bashing Sarah Palin a true conservative. Perry is a liberal....bottom line. I am not the only one who believes that.....92 percent of primary voters agree with me. You are on the wrong side of this election. Perry is not the right person to run our country. He is too liberal and we need a patriot who will be an American....Cain is that person. Perry is basically a big government liberal.


55 posted on 11/03/2011 6:18:10 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: moonshinner_09

Yeah. With millions of Americans out of work we need Mexicans.

Hint to Senor Perry: They’re not ALL picking vegetables.


56 posted on 11/03/2011 6:18:16 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: jospehm20

If every able bodied men and women took two pick up truck loads to the border this problem cold be solved in 6 months. I am so tired of paying for this invasion!


57 posted on 11/03/2011 6:19:04 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: UniqueViews

“Palin was going to give them amnesty, Perry is only for work visas, without a path to citizenship.

Maybe you need to read the excerpt again, to let it sink in.”

I didn’t realize that Palin was running. In any case, Perry CANNOT prevent them from becoming citizens, because he will NOT be dictator for life (if he did somehow get elected). It will be up to future Congresses and future SUPREME COURTS to decide what to do with these 15,000,000 people that are here with these dead-end permits.

Some of us would rather elect a president that will try to GET RID OF THEM.


58 posted on 11/03/2011 6:19:11 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Gingrich is a vote for Romney)
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To: Will88

Countries the world over not issue work visa’s?

Just how in the fudge do Americans conduct work in other countries?


59 posted on 11/03/2011 6:20:07 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife; BobL

Get back to me when you can tell me Cains stance on work visa’s.

Shut up you liberal. We are talking about Perry here who you seem to be dreamy over. Make another thread about Cain if you want to talk about Cain. Oh and don’t you DARE DEMAND ANYTHING from a FREEPER. Who the he!! do you think you are??????????


60 posted on 11/03/2011 6:21:00 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: mylife

“Just how in the fudge do Americans conduct work in other countries?”

THEY ENTER THE COUNTRY LEGALLY!!!!!!!!!!

Man, Perry has some real DUNCES working for him.


61 posted on 11/03/2011 6:21:36 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Gingrich is a vote for Romney)
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To: mylife

It’s all entitlement, to an illegal immigrant.


62 posted on 11/03/2011 6:22:05 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: moonshinner_09
Most likely it was an illegal who over stayed his VISA. But still, the system we have now, or rather the system we don't have now sucks. It prevents anyone but the Feds to enforce immigration but it never leaves the feds accountable. The states always end up paying for it. An enforcement system that would allow local cops access to immigration status and give them enforcement options is what Perry is asking for. Instead all we've got is either cut them loose to continue to violate our laws or house them in our jails at our expense.

Also, even when we do turn them over to the Feds they still most likely get released anyway with a court date that no one will enforce and can be over 5 years later.

63 posted on 11/03/2011 6:22:10 PM PDT by txroadkill (FreeRepublic.com- "A Wretched Hive of Scum and Villany" - Zotted Romney Troll)
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To: TADSLOS

That is YOUR comprehension of the matter.


64 posted on 11/03/2011 6:22:23 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: napscoordinator

“Shut up you liberal. We are talking about Perry here who you seem to be dreamy over. Make another thread about Cain if you want to talk about Cain. Oh and don’t you DARE DEMAND ANYTHING from a FREEPER. Who the he!! do you think you are??????????”

Thanks, this is getting close to a zot request now.


65 posted on 11/03/2011 6:22:43 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Gingrich is a vote for Romney)
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To: napscoordinator
Take it up with Palin, I merely posted her statements verbatim.

I merely pointed out your hypocrisy you are giving a pass to Palin for being for a path to citizenship for illegal aliens, while bashing Perry for giving them work visas without a path to citizenship.

As for Cain, in the general election Obama would demolish him, so we'd end up with Obama. Great strategy.

66 posted on 11/03/2011 6:23:26 PM PDT by UniqueViews
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To: central_va

He’s the corrupt, stammering, imbecile who is polling somewhere between Rick Santorum and Buddy Roemer.

One of those OWS hippies told him that in order to win, he had to be polling at 1% with 99% of primary voters supporting other candidates. He’s been doing his best to get there ever since.


67 posted on 11/03/2011 6:23:36 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Perry's idea of border control: Use both hands to welcome the illegals right in)
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To: napscoordinator

I always love how civil and reasonable you are.

Were have I made a single DEMAND of anyone?


68 posted on 11/03/2011 6:24:12 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: BobL
THEY ENTER THE COUNTRY LEGALLY!!!!!!!!!!

You mean like with a work Visa?

69 posted on 11/03/2011 6:25:48 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Get back to me when you can provide me....that is as “demanding” as you can get. It seemed very much like you were telling the little peons to bring you the information. Don’t you see that now?


70 posted on 11/03/2011 6:26:21 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: UniqueViews

“As for Cain, in the general election Obama would demolish him, so we’d end up with Obama. Great strategy. “

I thought you guys were being told to say that Cain is not serious and he just wants to be Romney’s VP. Did they send out new instructions?


71 posted on 11/03/2011 6:26:33 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Gingrich is a vote for Romney)
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To: central_va

If I post what I’m thinking, the mods delete it. It’ll have to do.


72 posted on 11/03/2011 6:26:49 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: justsaynomore

It is a work visa.


73 posted on 11/03/2011 6:26:54 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

“You mean like with a work Visa? “

Unfortunately that’s not what the article says...and that is what this thread is about.

Sorry.


74 posted on 11/03/2011 6:28:02 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Gingrich is a vote for Romney)
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To: napscoordinator

Well I googled it and Cain seems mum on the topic.


75 posted on 11/03/2011 6:29:35 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

“It is a work visa.”

It is a work visa for ILLEGALS - and what other country does that? I don’t know how much longer this site will put with you guys.


76 posted on 11/03/2011 6:29:46 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Gingrich is a vote for Romney)
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To: Will88

Perry is a halfwit to even talk this way if he feels this way. What is wrong with this dufus who I am inclined to support?


77 posted on 11/03/2011 6:30:14 PM PDT by dennisw (What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having - - Sting)
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To: mylife

I actually apologize for going off on you. However, I stand by every word I have said about Perry.


78 posted on 11/03/2011 6:31:07 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: UniqueViews
“It is a work visa, not amnesty.
Country’s the world over issue them.”
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You Perry supporters aren't too bright.

Why do you think that the Left-Wing media has brought these twenty-year old sexual harassment charges against Cain out? Let me help you: THEY SEE CAIN AS A TRUE THREAT! They know very well the damage a conservative, self-made Black man could cause their 40+ year myth that the Black person can't succeed without them.

Seriously, do you really think they see Perry—a man who looks like he overdosed on Dramamine before his debates—as a threat?

The Left always tell us who they fear. They attack relentlessly the ones they fear. They feared Palin (the citizen), and they fear Cain. Hate to burst your bubble, but they do not fear a man who has a hard time forming a cogent thought like Perry.

79 posted on 11/03/2011 6:31:28 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: mylife

“Well I googled it and Cain seems mum on the topic.”

Yea, his goal is to GET RID OF LAWBREAKERS, not make them legal. And to build a fence to end this crap once and for all.

But I guess you have a problem with that because it’s ‘heartless’.


80 posted on 11/03/2011 6:31:40 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Gingrich is a vote for Romney)
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To: BobL

Remember, only Perry can beat Romney!!!!!


81 posted on 11/03/2011 6:32:14 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Perry's idea of border control: Use both hands to welcome the illegals right in)
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To: mylife

No that is a damned FACT. Something you refuse to acknowledge due to your infatuation with Perry over logic and rule of law. Not only is Perry fundamentally WRONG on this issue AGAIN, he is effin’ TONE DEAF to the fact that unemployment is in the double digits in this country, unlike his SINGLE digit poll numbers. So, go ahead run with it, Perry. Let’s see how he handles fractional poll numbers instead of single digit whole ones.


82 posted on 11/03/2011 6:32:14 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Gov Jan Brewer has more balls than Rick Perry.)
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To: BobL

If you have a visa you are here legally for a temporary amount of time for the purpose of conducting work.


83 posted on 11/03/2011 6:32:23 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: napscoordinator

Apology accepted.


84 posted on 11/03/2011 6:33:43 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Cain’s views are simple. Enforce the laws that already exist. There are work visas now but only those who are still in their home country apply for them. There should be no special rules for those who have broken the law and illegally invaded our country.

Perry is absolutely clueless. He actually believes that conservatives agree with him. That’s why so many of the ones who want to vote for him are illegals and the RINOs who pander to them.


85 posted on 11/03/2011 6:34:56 PM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: South40
Once again, you tell a half truth.

In your zeal to paint your own biased picture of Governor Perry, you always skip this part, which Perry used the first time the reporter asked the question:

"We have a pathway to citizenship in this country today: it’s get in the line and do what it takes to get here legally. You cannot have a comprehensive discussion about immigration reform until you secure the border. I’ve got a 1,200 mile border with Mexico and it’s not secure. We have American citizens being killed, we have drugs coming across, we have illegal immigrations and all types of other human trafficking going on. Our border is not secure because our federal government has been an abject failure at it. "

The question was the third time the reporter asked and it was "envision some sort of pathway . . . " not "envision a *new* pathway to citizenship . . ."

86 posted on 11/03/2011 6:35:40 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed: Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: mylife

“If you have a visa you are here legally for a temporary amount of time for the purpose of conducting work.”

Do you believe that there are ANY Illegals in this country? I think not because you don’t seem to have that in your vocabulary.


87 posted on 11/03/2011 6:35:46 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Gingrich is a vote for Romney)
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To: smokingfrog

If they keep the mexicans as non US citizens that is a positive thing. If they get visas then thay are still citizens of mexico and would have no recourse with welfare ect in America. If done properly this could be a very good idea imo. Actually I thought if any mexican or illegal could prove they had a job. They could get a green card already.

If I had my way they would all be deported and the border patrol would be told to shoot when they saw any coming in. But I’m not sure what Perry is saying is a terrible Idea.


88 posted on 11/03/2011 6:36:15 PM PDT by Carry me back
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To: Waryone

“Cain’s views are simple. Enforce the laws that already exist. There are work visas now but only those who are still in their home country apply for them. There should be no special rules for those who have broken the law and illegally invaded our country.”

Don’t waste your time, he’s only being a troll at this point. He knows full well what we’ve all told him.


89 posted on 11/03/2011 6:36:42 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Gingrich is a vote for Romney)
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To: UniqueViews

I mistakenly cut and pasted the wrong quote. The following was your comment that I posted a response to:

“As for Cain, in the general election Obama would demolish him, so we’d end up with Obama. Great strategy.”


90 posted on 11/03/2011 6:37:24 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: TADSLOS

He may be tone deaf.
He doesn’t seem to understand that folks hate messicans.

Can Canadians get work visas? How about Aussies? The French?


91 posted on 11/03/2011 6:37:54 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Waryone

Well Perry has skyrocketed to 8%. He has his base solidly behind him. All 8%.


92 posted on 11/03/2011 6:40:21 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: BobL
First, very interesting that this is a Perry thread but Cain is being questioned and attacked. Hmmmmm, aren't the Perrybots the ones that keep screaming about Perry being attacked, even off topic of the original thread? Pot/ kettle and all that...

Second, we already have a work visa law on the books. It's useless! The ones getting work or studednt visas overstay them and it's not being enforced. Why would we think this would be any different/

Enforce the laws already on the books and I might start to believe someone is serious about it!

93 posted on 11/03/2011 6:40:33 PM PDT by CAluvdubya
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To: mylife

Here’s one for you.

Herman Cain
Apr 19, 2006

The movement to grant amnesty and eventual U.S. citizenship to some 12 million illegal aliens has turned the issue from the sounds of silence to the sounds of entitlement.

The entitlement mentality did not begin in America, but it has flourished here in the last century. The American claim on entitlements to health care, retirement income and seemingly any “right” one can conceive was birthed from the womb of Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal, reared by Kennedy’s New Frontier and came of age in Johnson’s Great Society. U.S. citizens, fanned by the flames of those who encourage class warfare, are increasing their demands for government-redistributed income and programs that guarantee outcomes, not opportunities. Non-citizens are now voicing the sounds of entitlement to an easy road to citizenship.

The entitlement attitude that has been ingrained in millions of Americans has blinded them to the ineffectiveness and runaway costs of their favorite programs. The fiscal challenge in meeting the future demands of the Medicare and Medicaid programs is well documented, as is the coming bankruptcy of the Social Security system. Yet few elected officials dare to even utter those programs’ names in public for fear of electoral retaliation.

Too many Americans also claim an entitlement to additional health care coverage from their employers. If they do not receive health care as a benefit, they believe the government should mandate it. The Maryland state legislature last year enacted a law requiring companies with over 10,000 employees to contribute 8 percent of total payroll to employees’ health care. The legislature is now looking at ways to require all employers, including non-profit organizations, to pay a percentage of their employees’ health care costs. Other states are considering the same plan.

Illegal aliens know they can receive free health care in hospital emergency rooms, paid for by U.S. taxpayers. A little publicized provision in the 2003 Medicare Modernization Act set aside $250 million in taxpayer dollars to reimburse hospitals for costs associated with treating illegal aliens. In a twist of logic only Congress could conceive, hospitals are barred from asking an emergency room patient if they are in the U.S. illegally. The long-run cost of this provision will surely skyrocket as hospitals continue to submit claims on coverage of people who may be illegal aliens.

Illegal aliens living and working in the U.S. have now co-opted the entitlement mentality present in too many Americans. Worse, their demands for the right to vote, guaranteed by our Constitution to citizens only, and access to social services are encouraged by elected officials trying to buy their future votes. At recent rallies Senators Edward Kennedy (D-MA) and Hillary Clinton (D-NY), to name just two, argued that illegal aliens must be allowed to remain in the U.S. and put on the path toward full citizenship rights. In other words, let’s skip the illegal part.

In addition to demands for voting rights, health care coverage and U.S. citizenship, many illegal aliens feel they are entitled to U.S. soil itself. Two groups that have helped organize the illegal alien rallies across the country, the Aztlan Movement and the Mexica Movement, believe it is American citizens who are in fact on their continent illegally. The Aztlan Movement seeks to create a separate nation comprised of northern Mexico and parts of the American Southwest, including California, Arizona and New Mexico. Members of the Mexica Movement, who waved signs at recent rallies that read “This Is Our Continent, Not Yours”, seek to completely remove Americans from North America and surrender control of the U.S. to Mexico.

The entitlement and class warfare mentality fostered for a century by liberal presidents, congressional leaders, labor union leaders and heads of liberal organizations in fact obscures their real goal. They seek complete government control of our lives and our businesses, which ultimately can only be achieved with your vote. Since the inception of the income tax code in 1913, to the birth of the Social Security system in 1935 and the programs that have followed, the end goal is always bigger government. It is also important to remember that those who occupy the positions of power will try to achieve their goal by any means possible. If it takes convincing the public that our planet is somehow warming because we drive cars with the air conditioner running, then so be it. If it takes increasing entitlement spending programs to 100 percent of the federal budget, so be it. Whatever it takes.

The United States would never have become the United States had the litany of entitlement programs and the unnatural attitudes they foster been in place in the 1800s and early 1900s. This was the time when newly freed slaves struck out to work on achieving their own dreams, when American expansion and settlement headed west, and when millions of Europeans crossed the Atlantic for a hard but better life. The only thing promised was abundant opportunity, given in exchange for assimilation and adherence to the rule of law.

We must demand that our president and Congress secure our borders and our sovereignty as a nation of laws and citizen rights. To those who enter this country legally, welcome to America. Illegal entitlement is not an option.

http://www.davidstuff.com/incorrect/cain1.htm


94 posted on 11/03/2011 6:41:15 PM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: moonshinner_09
If those Americans out of work would go do the work illegal immigrants presently do, it would kill two birds with one stone.

Uneployement would drastically drop and the illegals would go home for lack of work.

But the out of work whiners are above doing actual manual labor and getting their hands dirty, so they stay on the dole. Frig’em and feed’em fish heads.

95 posted on 11/03/2011 6:41:25 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: moonshinner_09; All
The man we need to draft for President has been here all along, Pat Buchanan.

This is what pat Buchanan says on illegal immigration:

“Treat illegal immigration as an invasion & repel it
We cannot continue to allow illegal immigration. A country that loses control of its borders is not a country.”

http://www.issues2000.org/Celeb/Pat_Buchanan_Immigration.htm

Buchanan says even better things on free trade, trade with China etc.. No one else says these things.

http://townhall.com/columnists/patbuchanan/2011/01/21/how_the_chinese_must_see_us

Are our Milton Friedmanite free-traders unaware of how it was that, in the last third of the 19th century, we left the British in the dust? Are they unaware we had the highest tariffs on earth to price British products out of our market and goad rapacious Yankees into building new factories to produce the same goods we were then importing from Great Britain?

Lest we forget, the Americans who turned this country into the industrial marvel of mankind were known as “Robber Barons.”

As they put America first in our rise, the Chinese are putting China first.

96 posted on 11/03/2011 6:41:59 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Why is no government creating a product we can hold in our hands like a cell phone..?)
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To: Waryone

What does any of that say about work visa’s?


97 posted on 11/03/2011 6:42:42 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: samadams2000

Most agree that they should be put out of the country. But do you think any of the US pols have the guts to do that? No, then what is another way we can keep them from becoming citizens with a right to vote ect ? Hopefully soon a President will run them out. But until then what do we do?


98 posted on 11/03/2011 6:42:49 PM PDT by Carry me back
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To: dennisw
What is wrong with this dufus who I am inclined to support?

He suffers from the same condition most all border state politicians seem to suffer from. They start pandering to Hispanics in political matters and then can never break the addiction later on, even if it means spreading their border state problems to the rest of the nation. They just can't break the pandering addiction, and we do not need another none in the White House.

99 posted on 11/03/2011 6:45:11 PM PDT by Will88
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To: moonshinner_09

You Perrybots really are some warped individuals:

First you side with the Left-Wing Pollitico on a bogus smear job concerning sexual harassment allegations that were never litigated, and found baseless from 20 years ago.

Now you try and defend this guys history of softness towards amnesty for illegals.

I swear, you Perrybots sound like liberals more and more everyday.


100 posted on 11/03/2011 6:46:28 PM PDT by Artcore
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