Posted on 11/03/2011 5:24:19 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
Texas Gov. Rick Perry says America should extend work visas to allow illegal immigrants to move freely between the U.S. and their home countries _ but opposes a path to citizenship.
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No that is a damned FACT. Something you refuse to acknowledge due to your infatuation with Perry over logic and rule of law. Not only is Perry fundamentally WRONG on this issue AGAIN, he is effin’ TONE DEAF to the fact that unemployment is in the double digits in this country, unlike his SINGLE digit poll numbers. So, go ahead run with it, Perry. Let’s see how he handles fractional poll numbers instead of single digit whole ones.
If you have a visa you are here legally for a temporary amount of time for the purpose of conducting work.
Apology accepted.
Cain’s views are simple. Enforce the laws that already exist. There are work visas now but only those who are still in their home country apply for them. There should be no special rules for those who have broken the law and illegally invaded our country.
Perry is absolutely clueless. He actually believes that conservatives agree with him. That’s why so many of the ones who want to vote for him are illegals and the RINOs who pander to them.
In your zeal to paint your own biased picture of Governor Perry, you always skip this part, which Perry used the first time the reporter asked the question:
"We have a pathway to citizenship in this country today: it’s get in the line and do what it takes to get here legally. You cannot have a comprehensive discussion about immigration reform until you secure the border. I’ve got a 1,200 mile border with Mexico and it’s not secure. We have American citizens being killed, we have drugs coming across, we have illegal immigrations and all types of other human trafficking going on. Our border is not secure because our federal government has been an abject failure at it. "
The question was the third time the reporter asked and it was "envision some sort of pathway . . . " not "envision a *new* pathway to citizenship . . ."
“If you have a visa you are here legally for a temporary amount of time for the purpose of conducting work.”
Do you believe that there are ANY Illegals in this country? I think not because you don’t seem to have that in your vocabulary.
If they keep the mexicans as non US citizens that is a positive thing. If they get visas then thay are still citizens of mexico and would have no recourse with welfare ect in America. If done properly this could be a very good idea imo. Actually I thought if any mexican or illegal could prove they had a job. They could get a green card already.
If I had my way they would all be deported and the border patrol would be told to shoot when they saw any coming in. But I’m not sure what Perry is saying is a terrible Idea.
“Cain’s views are simple. Enforce the laws that already exist. There are work visas now but only those who are still in their home country apply for them. There should be no special rules for those who have broken the law and illegally invaded our country.”
Don’t waste your time, he’s only being a troll at this point. He knows full well what we’ve all told him.
I mistakenly cut and pasted the wrong quote. The following was your comment that I posted a response to:
“As for Cain, in the general election Obama would demolish him, so we’d end up with Obama. Great strategy.”
He may be tone deaf.
He doesn’t seem to understand that folks hate messicans.
Can Canadians get work visas? How about Aussies? The French?
Well Perry has skyrocketed to 8%. He has his base solidly behind him. All 8%.
Second, we already have a work visa law on the books. It's useless! The ones getting work or studednt visas overstay them and it's not being enforced. Why would we think this would be any different/
Enforce the laws already on the books and I might start to believe someone is serious about it!
Here’s one for you.
Herman Cain
Apr 19, 2006
The movement to grant amnesty and eventual U.S. citizenship to some 12 million illegal aliens has turned the issue from the sounds of silence to the sounds of entitlement.
The entitlement mentality did not begin in America, but it has flourished here in the last century. The American claim on entitlements to health care, retirement income and seemingly any “right” one can conceive was birthed from the womb of Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal, reared by Kennedy’s New Frontier and came of age in Johnson’s Great Society. U.S. citizens, fanned by the flames of those who encourage class warfare, are increasing their demands for government-redistributed income and programs that guarantee outcomes, not opportunities. Non-citizens are now voicing the sounds of entitlement to an easy road to citizenship.
The entitlement attitude that has been ingrained in millions of Americans has blinded them to the ineffectiveness and runaway costs of their favorite programs. The fiscal challenge in meeting the future demands of the Medicare and Medicaid programs is well documented, as is the coming bankruptcy of the Social Security system. Yet few elected officials dare to even utter those programs’ names in public for fear of electoral retaliation.
Too many Americans also claim an entitlement to additional health care coverage from their employers. If they do not receive health care as a benefit, they believe the government should mandate it. The Maryland state legislature last year enacted a law requiring companies with over 10,000 employees to contribute 8 percent of total payroll to employees’ health care. The legislature is now looking at ways to require all employers, including non-profit organizations, to pay a percentage of their employees’ health care costs. Other states are considering the same plan.
Illegal aliens know they can receive free health care in hospital emergency rooms, paid for by U.S. taxpayers. A little publicized provision in the 2003 Medicare Modernization Act set aside $250 million in taxpayer dollars to reimburse hospitals for costs associated with treating illegal aliens. In a twist of logic only Congress could conceive, hospitals are barred from asking an emergency room patient if they are in the U.S. illegally. The long-run cost of this provision will surely skyrocket as hospitals continue to submit claims on coverage of people who may be illegal aliens.
Illegal aliens living and working in the U.S. have now co-opted the entitlement mentality present in too many Americans. Worse, their demands for the right to vote, guaranteed by our Constitution to citizens only, and access to social services are encouraged by elected officials trying to buy their future votes. At recent rallies Senators Edward Kennedy (D-MA) and Hillary Clinton (D-NY), to name just two, argued that illegal aliens must be allowed to remain in the U.S. and put on the path toward full citizenship rights. In other words, let’s skip the illegal part.
In addition to demands for voting rights, health care coverage and U.S. citizenship, many illegal aliens feel they are entitled to U.S. soil itself. Two groups that have helped organize the illegal alien rallies across the country, the Aztlan Movement and the Mexica Movement, believe it is American citizens who are in fact on their continent illegally. The Aztlan Movement seeks to create a separate nation comprised of northern Mexico and parts of the American Southwest, including California, Arizona and New Mexico. Members of the Mexica Movement, who waved signs at recent rallies that read “This Is Our Continent, Not Yours”, seek to completely remove Americans from North America and surrender control of the U.S. to Mexico.
The entitlement and class warfare mentality fostered for a century by liberal presidents, congressional leaders, labor union leaders and heads of liberal organizations in fact obscures their real goal. They seek complete government control of our lives and our businesses, which ultimately can only be achieved with your vote. Since the inception of the income tax code in 1913, to the birth of the Social Security system in 1935 and the programs that have followed, the end goal is always bigger government. It is also important to remember that those who occupy the positions of power will try to achieve their goal by any means possible. If it takes convincing the public that our planet is somehow warming because we drive cars with the air conditioner running, then so be it. If it takes increasing entitlement spending programs to 100 percent of the federal budget, so be it. Whatever it takes.
The United States would never have become the United States had the litany of entitlement programs and the unnatural attitudes they foster been in place in the 1800s and early 1900s. This was the time when newly freed slaves struck out to work on achieving their own dreams, when American expansion and settlement headed west, and when millions of Europeans crossed the Atlantic for a hard but better life. The only thing promised was abundant opportunity, given in exchange for assimilation and adherence to the rule of law.
We must demand that our president and Congress secure our borders and our sovereignty as a nation of laws and citizen rights. To those who enter this country legally, welcome to America. Illegal entitlement is not an option.
http://www.davidstuff.com/incorrect/cain1.htm
Uneployement would drastically drop and the illegals would go home for lack of work.
But the out of work whiners are above doing actual manual labor and getting their hands dirty, so they stay on the dole. Frig’em and feed’em fish heads.
This is what pat Buchanan says on illegal immigration:
“Treat illegal immigration as an invasion & repel it
We cannot continue to allow illegal immigration. A country that loses control of its borders is not a country.”
http://www.issues2000.org/Celeb/Pat_Buchanan_Immigration.htm
Buchanan says even better things on free trade, trade with China etc.. No one else says these things.
http://townhall.com/columnists/patbuchanan/2011/01/21/how_the_chinese_must_see_us
Are our Milton Friedmanite free-traders unaware of how it was that, in the last third of the 19th century, we left the British in the dust? Are they unaware we had the highest tariffs on earth to price British products out of our market and goad rapacious Yankees into building new factories to produce the same goods we were then importing from Great Britain?
Lest we forget, the Americans who turned this country into the industrial marvel of mankind were known as “Robber Barons.”
As they put America first in our rise, the Chinese are putting China first.
What does any of that say about work visa’s?
Most agree that they should be put out of the country. But do you think any of the US pols have the guts to do that? No, then what is another way we can keep them from becoming citizens with a right to vote ect ? Hopefully soon a President will run them out. But until then what do we do?
He suffers from the same condition most all border state politicians seem to suffer from. They start pandering to Hispanics in political matters and then can never break the addiction later on, even if it means spreading their border state problems to the rest of the nation. They just can't break the pandering addiction, and we do not need another none in the White House.
You Perrybots really are some warped individuals:
First you side with the Left-Wing Pollitico on a bogus smear job concerning sexual harassment allegations that were never litigated, and found baseless from 20 years ago.
Now you try and defend this guys history of softness towards amnesty for illegals.
I swear, you Perrybots sound like liberals more and more everyday.
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