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Herman Cain flunks foreign policy
Renew America ^ | 11-3-2011 | Alan Caruba - Commentary

Posted on 11/06/2011 11:33:55 AM PST by smoothsailing

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To: altura

“Religious type fervor”? That’s bulshite. Cain is an appealing candidate. He is not running as the candidate from Jeopardy.


121 posted on 11/06/2011 1:35:12 PM PST by Melchior
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To: altura
...they are pretty ugly and just prove my point that all one has to do on FR lately is make the slightest criticism of Cain and suddenly, you’re the devil.

It's not that bad altura, come on, your freeper #33! You've seen this crap for years and have the respect of those of us who dare to call ourselves oldtimers!

We'll get through these flamewars yet again. Hang in there.

122 posted on 11/06/2011 1:35:29 PM PST by Jean S
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

” Slow day on the Perry threads, isn’t it?... “

I suppose you may have a point.


123 posted on 11/06/2011 1:37:58 PM PST by RitaOK (Texas. Exhibit A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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To: altura

Fair enough. You’re anonymous, and the charges are unspecific. So you’re playing by the rules. All you lack is a sleazy Clintonoid lawyer/spokesperson.


124 posted on 11/06/2011 1:39:28 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: smoothsailing

Let’s see... I bet Cain is smart enough to give appropriate gifts to foreign dignitaries. He wouldn’t give a blind PM some NTSC region DVDs or a (partially) deaf queen an iPod loaded with his “great” speeches. He seems to have enough dignity to restrain himself from bowing to third world dictators. He seems smart enough to listen to his advisers so he might avoid such foibles as screwing up a toast to a queen. Did I miss anything?


125 posted on 11/06/2011 1:40:38 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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To: altura
A religious-type fervor has developed on FR lately, the object of the worship being Cain. No criticism of him can be accepted or even discussed.

You're telling me. I was piled on last night, on the Cain-Gingrich debate thread, for lack of Cainolatry. Even got poisonous freepmail. The worshippers are quick to commit personal attacks and then accuse the target of personal attack, simply for not loving their candidate. Well I don't love him. Moreover, some of his supporters here do him no credit. The incivility is more disappointing than the irrationality; I can overlook projection and fallacious argument, but puerile insults and malice are harder to take from fellow conservatives. (Until I adjusted the ping page to make replies invisible. Hurray for white font! ;) )

126 posted on 11/06/2011 1:41:12 PM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: Maelstorm

That was a thoughtful post and I appreciate your not resorting to calling me a Perrywinkle.

I just think that too many people are putting total trust in a guy they don’t know much about.

He was a moderately successful business man, worked for the army, is obviously conservative and genial, was a talk show host that I never heard of, and has no record.

No record seems to appeal to people who want a blank slate to put all their hopes and dreams on.

This is his first foray into politics except for a failed senate run in which he didn’t even contend.

He’s never been vetted and, of course, there will be questions about him and to him, and he needs to be prepared to answer them.

His most well-known appointment so far is that weird guy who’s running his campaign. Is that the judgment he’d use in making political appointments?

See, we don’t know, and it serves us ill to be afraid to know.

It seems like people are looking for a kindly old grandfather to take care of them.

I want an experienced guy who’s got a record of the type of people he appoints, of the reforms he’s made and of the job-friendly atmosphere he’s created in a large state.

Although especially burdened with illegals and a large influx of poor Mexicans, legal and illegal, he’s still managed to keep Texas affluent and prospering.

Sorry for the riff on Perry which I’m sure will result in further insults but the difference in record is just so obvious to anyone who is not under some kind of bizarre spell.


127 posted on 11/06/2011 1:41:24 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: varina davis
"John Bolton might have something to say about that. He is one exceedingly intelligent man."

If a president asked him to join the team, he would be obliged to accept.

Patriots don't shirk their duty!

128 posted on 11/06/2011 1:41:44 PM PST by PALIN SMITH (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: altura

So you Perrywinkes have changed the rules then? A thread about Cain isn’t a Cain thread?

(oh my head hurts)


129 posted on 11/06/2011 1:42:44 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (America First)
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To: Jean S

Oh, thanks, Jean. I’ll hang in here.

It’s just kinda sad that I’ve gone from being a beloved old-time freeper, conservative to the core, to being the gal everybody loves to hate.


130 posted on 11/06/2011 1:42:47 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: altura
I’m sorry it offends all y’all but I stand by my contention that your devotion to Cain is a little over the cop and that none of you will even consider honestly any faults he might have.

Your contention is full of crap. And your motivation of trying to tear down Cain in compensation for the fact that your guy is in single digits is both transparent and shameless.

131 posted on 11/06/2011 1:42:50 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: altura
It’s just kinda sad that I’ve gone from being a beloved old-time freeper, conservative to the core, to being the gal everybody loves to hate.

The cure for that is pretty simple. Act more like a Freeper and less like an unprincipled political hack.

132 posted on 11/06/2011 1:44:07 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Lady Lucky

Hey, I was there with you.

But I kinda regret getting on there and making posts.

It was a prayer meeting and everybody there just wanted to shout Amen.


133 posted on 11/06/2011 1:45:45 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: altura
"His most well-known appointment so far is that weird guy who’s running his campaign. Is that the judgment he’d use in making political appointments?"

Weird? According to whom? You?

I contend that you are weird.LOL

They are atop most of the polls for now.

We'll talk again on the night of January 3, 2012, after the Iowa Caucus.

I expect Sarah Palin to endorse Cain By Christmas.

If she waits to see who the establishment installs before endorsing, then she isn't a rogue, but another Rino.

134 posted on 11/06/2011 1:46:16 PM PST by PALIN SMITH (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: altura

” Now that he’s leading in some polls, he may decide he doesn’t need Romney.
And now that he has a little baggage, Romney may decide he doesn’t need Cain. “

Think about it, altura, that is hilarious! What you said is too funny! And true! You made me spray coffee! There is no telling what’s coming down the pike with all this slow dancing, where you then switch and change partners! LOL! Romney us probably furious with Cain for his team up with Gingrich in Houston last night. After all, Romney was the one getting all the eye lashing from Cain, who was giving Perry the tongue lashing, and now THIS. Gingrich!


135 posted on 11/06/2011 1:46:30 PM PST by RitaOK (Texas. Exhibit A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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placemark


136 posted on 11/06/2011 1:47:21 PM PST by tiredoflaundry (I will not be silenced. Winners do not compromise!)
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To: mylife
Successful foreign policy can't happen unless you have a policy leader that actually knows right from wrong, and is willing to call evil by its name. Evil Empire; One of the greatest Foreign Policy statements of my time. Another personal favorite of mine, (not exact) we will be at the dock and wave as you leave.
137 posted on 11/06/2011 1:48:06 PM PST by itsahoot (There was a bloodless coup in 08, and no one seemed to notice. God help us.)
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To: altura

From Herman Cain:

Romney is not a Staunch Conservative (10/15/11)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2793447/posts

Cain Wants a Fight in Las Vegas
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/57544.html

Herman Cain Hits Romney on Healthcare Plan
http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/04/herman-cain-hits-romney-health-care-plan

Cain Discusses what is Wrong with Romney’s Job’s Plan
http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/herman-cain-and-dick-discuss-whats-wrong-with-romneys-jobs-plan-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/

__________
And an extra little tidbit

On 1/22/08, he donated $2300 to Mike Huckabee. SO Huckabee was his choice in 2008 until it came down to Romney/McCain.

http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.php?name=Cain%2C+Herman&state=GA&zip=&employ=&cand=&c2008=Y&sort=N&capcode=c9c74&submit=Submit+your+Donor+Query


138 posted on 11/06/2011 1:49:34 PM PST by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; altura
Now. Here we are on a Cain thread. A Cain thread. Just saying. Who is disrupting?

The thread's topic is a commentary that criticizes Cain as lacking foreign policy expertise (or even familiarity in some cases). Is there a rule here against agreeing with such commentary? Or pointing out the attendant incivility arising from stating same?

Indeed, given the commentary, this would seem to be an anti-Cain thread. In that case, is only Cain defense permitted?

Or is it "disruptive" to say anything that might antagonize the hypersensitive Cain supporters, including an observation that they ARE readily antagonized?

139 posted on 11/06/2011 1:51:29 PM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
You’re a Perry supporter, you posted this thread about Cain - about Cain - which makes this a “Cain thread”.

LOL! This isn't a Cain thread, it's just a thread. No one owns it, no one defines it, with the exception of the moderators or Jim Robinson.

As for me being a Perry supporter, that's partially accurate. There are three candidates I could vote for, were the election held today. Perry, Bachmann, Cain, in that order.

Fact is Perry supporters constantly complain that opposing views on “Perry threads” are disruptive.

That is certainly a generality, and it's far from a fact. But so what, if you don't like Perry supporters, challenge their views. The snarky comments don't help you at all. And think about this, you're the one who keeps on talking about Perry, not me.

140 posted on 11/06/2011 1:51:39 PM PST by smoothsailing (FUMR-FUBO- the left is a seething mass neurosis)
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