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To: HamiltonJay

You miss the point. Try pulling a girl’s head into your crotch WITH ONE HAND *while* your other hand is planted in her crotch. In the driver’s seat of a car.

Good luck with that.


320 posted on 11/07/2011 11:58:33 AM PST by bolobaby
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To: bolobaby

Right hand up skirt, reach with left to grab head is indeed doable folks... depending on car, and size of woman, would likely have to move right hand before being able to really enjoy the experience, but its not logisitically “impossible”.

I have no idea what did or didn’t happen, but the labels of “impossible” are being thrown around wildly, and inaccurately.


376 posted on 11/07/2011 12:14:39 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: bolobaby
From the transcripts I've read, she never said he did those two things at the exact same time. So the "physically impossible" theory doesn't fit. She also didn't say her head was anywhere near his "crotch." She said "toward" it. So the "steering wheel" theory doesn't fit either. She said instead of going into the office, which implies they were parked and could have gotten out of the car. So the "it required three hands" theory doesn't fit either. Those aren't reasons to discount her accusations. That's not to say it actually happened either.

At that time I had on a black pleated skirt, a suit jacket and a blouse. He had on a suit with his shirt open. But instead of going into the offices, he suddenly reached over and he put his hand on my leg under my skirt and reached for my genitals. He also grabbed my head and brought it towards his crotch. I was very, very surprised and very shocked. I said, “What are you doing? You know I have a boyfriend. This isn’t what I came here for.” Mr. Cain said, ‘You want a job, right?’ I asked him to stop, and he did. I asked him to take me back to my hotel, which he did right away.

500 posted on 11/07/2011 12:58:19 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: bolobaby

Here is the money quote from her statement.

“Instead of going in he suddenly reached over and put his hand on my leg, under my skirt and reached for my genitals. He also grabbed my head and brought it towards his crotch. I was surprised and shocked and I said,” What are you doing? You know I have a boyfriend. This is not what I came here for.” Mr. Cain said, “You want a job, right?”. I asked him to stop and he did. I asked him to take me back to my hotel which he did.”

I keep trying to tell everyone that Allred and her disgusting client prepared her statement with just enough fudge room and just enough ambiguity and just enough uncheckable iuformation to make it a lie that cannot be directly refuted.

As to your point, she does not say he was reaching under her skirt and pulling her head down at the same time. It just says “he also” pulled my head. At the same time? Maybe. A moment later? Maybe. What I find ridiculous is that, given the circumstances, if his advances were so clearly unwanted, she would have screamed and pushed his hand away from her leg in a split second and he would never have a chance to try to pull her head down to his crotch. If he actually tried to do both maneuvers simultaneously, she would have to have perceived a violent sexual assault and would have jumped out of the car and fled straight to the police.

If they had any encounter at all, she either started it or went along with it.


637 posted on 11/07/2011 2:23:35 PM PST by JewishRighter ( Multiculturalism is killing us.)
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