Posted on 11/08/2011 11:40:43 AM PST by bjorn14
STATE COLLEGE, Pa. — Joe Paterno’s tenure as coach of the Penn State football team will soon be over, perhaps within days or weeks, in the wake of a sex-abuse scandal that has implicated university officials, according to two people briefed on conversations among the university’s top officials.
The board of trustees has yet to determine the precise timing of Paterno’s exit, but it is clear that the man who has more victories than any other coach at college football’s top level and who made Penn State a prestigious national brand will not survive to coach another season. Discussions about how to manage his departure have begun, according to the two people.
Paterno was to have held a news conference Tuesday but the university canceled it less than an hour before it was scheduled to start.
At age 84 and with 46 seasons as the Penn State head coach behind him, Paterno’s extraordinary run of success — one that produced tens of millions of dollars for the school and two national championships, and that established him as one of the nation’s most revered leaders, will end with a stunning and humiliating final chapter.
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Thanks. I'm signing off. I feel as if I found out yesterday that there is no Santa Claus. No. That's light-hearted. I feel much worse than that. I feel betrayed by what I thought was the one decent thing, the one decent man, in college football. When I lived in Seattle in the 1970s, I had white football helmet for backyard football. I used black electrical tape to put a stripe on it so it would look like Penn State. In Seattle. My parents never went to college and I had no ties to Pennsylvania.
I don't understand that part of your post at all since I have posted many times here (and also to you, I think) that Joe knew everything and was getting a pass from the DA at this time because he had agreed to testify against Curley and Schultz. The only way his testimony is any good is if he was a party to conversations in which either he told them or heard McQueary tell them the actual details.
I think the problem here is that you think Paterno actually has divine powers. If Paterno demanded of Curley and Spainer that Sandusky be banned after he got his retirement package, they would have put their arms around his shoulders and explained why they couldn’t do that.”
Sure they would have. And the minute anyone found out about it, and someone would have, what would they have done then? I think you are the one who thinks Joe is divine and above the standards that are to be used in dealing with the rest of us mere mortals.
I was accusing Joe of COVERING IT UP. Not of actually committing the act. Get real yourself. I actually used to respect Joe Paterno. No more.
Coming from a Pedo State lackey, Buckeyes will take your derision with less than the grain of salt that it deserves.
It seems this gets deeper and worse. I take it you think he was taken out.
It seems this gets deeper and worse. I take it you think he was taken out.
McQueary was the one who should have called the cops since he was the one who saw it. With Paterno, it became whisper down the lane and he reported it to the people to whom he was supposed to, and I imagine who thought would do the right thing.
BTW, if you look at the Grand Jury Report you'll notice that another incident of child sex abuse by Sandusky was observed by a janitor, who couldn't bring himself to make a report. Maybe if we try real hard we'll find a way to blame Paterno for that.
You make a lot of assumptions. While Sandusky may have brought kids into the facilities as part of Second Mile -- i.e. when there were a lot of people around -- the kids were brought to the showers when Sandusky thought there was nobody around.
It's in the Grand Jury report.
I would expect that over the course of decades that Joe had direct knowledge of Sandusky bringing kids into the locker room.
the kids were brought to the showers when Sandusky thought there was nobody around.
the problem with your analogy is that you can’t compare your “website” to Paterno’s source.
McQueary is an ex-psu quarterback. He was the GA at the time.
If JoePa thought him to be a questionable source, I’m not sure why he would still be on the sidelines today.
that part of the presentment describes Sandusky driving by the building slowly until 3:00 am.
Why were they so afraid of him?
Why was McQueary so afraid? the janitors?
I’m wondering - how did anyone come to know about this night the janitors describe if they didn’t report it?
Question:
Which came first, being gay, or being a pedophile.
Most people think these are two different things, but they are now more different than an hetero prefering young women.
How does that expression go again?
Grass on the infield, play ball!
Sorry to be so crass, but what irks me is the idea of outrage toward this man Sandusky. This is normative behavior, after all, being gay. That he’s attracted to ten year olds, well that’s a matter for his therapist, but the gay part is A-OK in everybody’s book in the new millenium.
That a 10 year old was in proximity to a shower on campus is a matter for parents I would guess.
To quote Woody Allen, “The heart wants what it does.”
Don’t know what Paterno was thinking. I don’t think we know everything at this point.
Hard to say. On the one hand his bro killed himself. On the other the DA was considered strange. But after the 2002 incident was there something around 2005 that came to light?
Sorry: I read your post again and now understand what you were trying to say.
You can now return to the mob and burn Joe at the stake before hearing what he has to say.
PS: Tressel (sp?)is still a good man, a great coach and he deserved better.
Of course not, practically everyone knows he runs the show, however, as I said he covered his butt legally, by reporting it to his technical supervisor, but didn’t follow up and did not call the cops. He covered himself legally, but didn’t do remotely the right thing.
I suspect we are going to find out that this coaches “retirement” in 1999 was because it was common knowledge this guy was doing this, and rather than reporting it pushed him out... Also, I fear that the local police up in happy valley probably were complicite in the cover up as well. That’s speculation at this point, but I’d say its better than even odds.
Exactly, did Joe report it to the police, knowing they wouldn’t do anything about it, but legally keeping Joe clean?
It’s really starting to smell, like PSU under Paterno was run like a mafia family....and that Sandusky was just one of many things not kosher with the program. It’s inconceivable (yes, I’m using that word), that somebody who witnesses something so horrid, wouldn’t do everything in their power to make it stop.
I guessing that this came to light when police started questioning staff about other cases.
I think what we are seeing is a decline in character in this country.
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