Prophet Warren Jeffs
Prophet Harry Reid
Posted on 11/09/2011 5:50:35 PM PST by delacoert
The recent news that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints had distanced itself from Mit Romney took everyone by surprise. “Mit is giving Mormons a bad name,” said spokeselder H. LeGrand Smoot, who declined to elaborate on the church’s order that Brother Romney cease and desist from identifying himself as a Mormon.
After several days of stonewalling the mainstream media, the church finally agreed to sit down with City Weekly, on the condition that the interview be conducted by the Deep End. Brother H. LeGrand Smoot, a large, friendly fellow with silver hair and an impressive double chin, greeted us warmly in his spacious office high above Temple Square.
Deep End: Why the sudden move? The general consensus seemed to be that Mit was good for the church.
Smoot: Initially, and for quite a while, the Brethren were exceedingly pleased with the candidacy of Brother Romney. Even when the media started nosing around in our sacred ceremonies, we weighed the pros and cons and decided that on the whole, Mit’s candidacy was a big plus for us. He was a fine figure of a man and a fine exemplar of the gospel.
DE: So, what changed?
Smoot: This was not an all-of-a-sudden flip-flop on our part. Many of the Brethren were not happy with those TV commercials when Brother Romney ran for governor in Massachusetts—you know, the ones on the beach where he appeared without his shirt. Then, of course, there was great consternation among the Brethren when that unfortunate story came out about Brother Romney strapping his Irish setter, poor Seamus, on top of the family car for that 12-hour trip across the windy plains of Canada.
DE: We didn’t realize the Brethren were dog lovers.
Smoot: You have no idea, Brother End. From the beginning of the church, our canine companions have played a central part. The Prophet Joseph Smith was actually taking his dog—a golden retriever named Nephi, coincidentally—for a walk when God and Jesus got his attention in a pillar of light. And Brigham Young is said to have had at least 27 schnauzers living with him in the Beehive House. For Pioneer Days, he used to dress them up in the cutest little bonnets.
DE: We can well understand the consternation of the Brethren when they read about Seamus getting sick in the rushing wind.
Smoot: Brother Romney was summoned to a Bishop’s Court and would have been excommunicated had it not been for the testimony of the ever-loyal Seamus.
DE: Amazing what they will forgive.
Smoot: That’s why among all of God’s critters, dogs go straight to the Celestial Kingdom, as revealed in section 129 of the Doctrine & Covenants. Anyway, Brother Romney was in our good graces until the flip-flopping got out of hand. He was, as Brother Huntsman so aptly put it, behaving like a well-lubricated weather vane.
DE: Mit is not here to defend himself, but in his defense, he says his unprincipled flip-floppery—on gay rights, on abortion, on gun rights, etc.—is simply a matter of adjusting to reality. When facts change, you have to change. When your audience changes, you change. Isn’t playing to the audience in keeping with the church’s own history of self-serving expediency? For instance, changing its doctrine on polygamy so Utah could become a state, and changing its doctrine on the fitness of African-American males for the priesthood so the Black Panthers wouldn’t storm Temple Square?
Smoot: You call it expediency, we call it revelation. In any event, we have instructed Brother Romney to cease and desist from calling himself a Mormon not from any sense of moral consistency on our part, but simply because of all the bad publicity he is bringing our way.
DE: How about Mit’s denial of knowingly employing illegal aliens to cut his lawn: “I can’t have illegal aliens working for me. I’m running for office, for Pete’s sake.” Isn’t that a perfect example of applying the doctrine of avoiding bad publicity? Isn’t that a fine example of Mormon expediency?
Smoot: When the Brethren speak, the thinking has been done. As far as the practice of flip-floppery goes, I call your attention to the 13th Article of Faith: “We believe in being honest, true, benevolent, chaste and avoiding flip-floppery, except when it is our advantage to do so.”
DE: We appreciate you taking time to talk with us.
Smoot: And I appreciate your appreciation.
Prophet Warren Jeffs
Prophet Harry Reid
The people on this website must be the biggest idiots ever. They jump on board a story like this not even knowing if “Brother H. LeGrand Smoot” actually speaks for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints or not. They can take my account and cram it up the ass of the people that tolerate these bigots.
I thought it was. But then again, I thought the Christmas tree tax was too.
I thought it was. But then again, I thought the Christmas tree tax was too.
What is that 3rd picture?
Your posting history is replete with Romney supporting comments, I'm wondering why you are allowed to be here. As for your above comment, why not address it to someone who has the ability to do something about your complaints, such as a mod or JimRob?
The people on this website must be the biggest idiots ever. They jump on board a story like this not even knowing if “Brother H. LeGrand Smoot” actually speaks for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints or not.
It's satire, get over yourself.
Yeah - interesting photo. Being ALL white and with the gloves, I’m guessing that it is inside a mormon temple. Have no idea what it all is though.
I can’t stop laughing at some of the lines in this article.
The bit about Romney “behaving like a well-lubricated weather vane” just cracks me the more I think of it.
It was in Texas where Fundamental Morman prophet Warren Jeffs had his compound and temple. I believe it was his interpretation of the Mormon heaven where, as god, he would perpetually have sex with all of his many wives and populate his own planet. But for all I know, this is what all Morman temples look like in their sanctuaries.
That is a bed where he had special holy sex with all his wives, including the child brides.
See ya!
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Why is THAT?
It SEEMS easy enough...
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Temple Recommend Questions
1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost? 2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer? 3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days? 4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church? 5 Do you live the law of chastity? 6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church? 7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? 8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel? 9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen? 10 Are you a full-tithe payer? 11 Do you keep the Word of Wisdom? 12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations? 13 If you have previously received your temple endowment: Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple? Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple? 14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been? 15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances? |
Samuel Clemens
Doctor: Then don't do THAT!
HMMmm...
"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.
The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.
This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."
Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.
Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.
2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'
Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'
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August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:
(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)
1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson "The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."
We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood. According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented. |
Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:
"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.
The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."
(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).
When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:
"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."
When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:
"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."
(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)
Yeah; Native Americans are althroughout the Book of MORMON; too.
“I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today ... they are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.... For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised.... The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.
At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl-sixteen-sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parents—on the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather.... These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.
One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated.
(Improvement Era, December 1960, pp.922-23). (p. 209)
~ Wilford Woodruff, 4th LDS President
In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.
1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.
I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.
Ezra Taft Benson
(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)
They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.Who has made this so?Have I?Have this people?Have the world?No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.Can you pass without his inspection?No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?
--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224
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