Penn State trustees fire football coach Joe Paterno and PSU president Spanier

AP/Newser.com ^ | Nov. 9, 2011 | Genaro C. Armas

[MacMattico]

Right now, on the scroll on ESPN, it says Paterno will “clarify” what he was told in 2002, and that he “vaguely” remembers it had to do with fondling.

Vaguely?? Yeah he's 84 but is he now trying to change his statement from 2002?

When you're an organization like a tight nit college football team, it would be very hard to keep several rapes of little boys a secret from people in that organization.

My father met several college head coaches in his job over the years... The only one he ever said anything bad about was Paterno— that he thought he would do ANYTHING to win, or OVERLOOK anything to win. My dad died in 2003 so I can't ask him to elaborate and I know it's only one guys feelings but it gave me a shiver when I thought about what he said. And why in Paterno's statement did he say he thanks all the coaches he ever worked with? Really? One is a serial Rapist and others may have covered it up!!!

[dfwgator]

Joe had to go, because there certainly is enough out there to suggest he didn’t do enough, I will withhold final judgement on his ultimate culpability until I hear more.

But the fact is, given the now circus-like nature of this, he simply could not go on as head coach with all of this swirling around him. In fact, I question if the team should be playing any more games this season, until this mess gets all sorted out.

[grey_whiskers]

What subject do you teach? In which school district?

And do you ever shower with your same-sex pre-pubescent students?

And if you caught a sports coach at your school anally raping a ten year old boy, and nothing efficacious was done to prevent it...

Would you be screaming like mad at whatever cost to yourself to make it stop?

Or secretly trying on a new pedobear outfit?

Cheers!

[del4hope]

I suspect that what you are trying to convey is this:

That if guilt by association becomes the trend, we can all be held accountable for any crime within our sphere of contact.

This is indeed a heinous crime. One that is highly emotional. Often laws are enacted on the public emotion. This crime may be used as example for the rest of us to have to prove we are not criminals or associates of criminals. Adding to the list of other already time consuming activities we have in order to prove we are not criminals.

You may want to explain yourself better if this is the case, because no one is listening. You have appeared in several posts to be defending the perps. In this case, the associates are accessories.

[dfwgator]

To loosely borrow a line from South Park, “Dude, he had sex with children.”

[Twink]

Sure.

[Teacher317]

Read the thread. Count the number of times the " enablers" are vented at, and how many times anyone addresses Sandusky. Especially early in the thread, he was nearly invisible. That was my point. Yes, clearly, you have more than enough venom for the rapist. Good for you. You hate him the most. You win. I'm scum for only insulting him moderately and not frequently enough. Yes yes, burn the rapist, put his head on a pike, disembowel him on live TV, etc etc etc. Happy?

That Doesn't change the fact that the PSU guys who were NOT raping children seem to be getting attacked disproportionately today, both here and on TV. May I discuss that, please kind sir?

[QT3.14]

DA dismissed charges in 1998, went "missing" in 2005, declared "legally dead" in June 2011. How damning is that? I don't want to sound like a tin foil hat nut, but when something sounds like a plot in a Hollywood Gangster film, you know something isn't right.

Added to that is police found on his home PC searches on how to destroy info on hard drives...

[grey_whiskers]

I recall reading elsewhere on FR that the University President Spanier, when he came on board, vowed to make Penn State the most homosexual-friendly University in the country; one anecdote relates how he fired (IIRC) the *very* successfull woman's basketball coach because she wouldn't allow lesbians on her team.

Can you say "lavender Mafia"...?

NO cheers, unfortunately.

[mrsloungitude]

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[mrsloungitude]

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[MrEdd]

Read the thread.

Read the topic of the thread.

[grey_whiskers]

You are channeling all the approved homosexual talking points...

[Hoodat]

Not only did he have sex with children, he was hitting a ten-year-old so hard from behind that someone in another room could hear it even with the showers running. The guy who heard it, stepped into the shower room and saw it, confirming what he heard.

This man gives Paterno a detailed account of what he heard and saw less than 12 hours later. And all Paterno does is sit on it for at least 24 hours before reporting a much milder account to his AD.

[grey_whiskers]

How about if we just rename the team the Pedo State Catamites?

(Yeah, it's not *quite* accurate, but it retains a shred of verbal association to felines and thence to Nittany Lions.)

NO cheers, unfortunately.

[mrsloungitude]

Teacher317 still hasn't read the grand jury report and I don't think Twink did either. They don't know what thread they are on either. They just feel sorry for JoePa and are angry that others don't. That is all I have been able to get from their posts.

[Teacher317]

“Penn State trustees fire football coach Joe Paterno and PSU president Spanier”... Not one mention of the rapist, as I said.

[Teacher317]

Where did I once express sympathy for JoPa? I just want it to make sense. No indictment yet for the rapist, but everyone around him is getting excoriated. How can that be acceptable?! Why do you willfully ignore that? Just because of the intensity of the topic? Do you not understand that it will be used as a tool in the future by unscrupulous people, particularly in government? How am I evil for stating what seems so obvious?

[grey_whiskers]

Because you're a damn liar.

Count the times on the thread where the number of people who had explicit knowledge of the continuing rape /molestation of prepubescent boys is listed.

You pretend they didn't have that knowledge.

[MrEdd]

You don't thin that just maybe people on this thread might have been talking about Paterno and Spanier (notice the references to a guy who vowed to make Penn State "Homosexual friendly" and who wrote his doctoral dissertation on "Wife Swapping" - those refer to spanier) might be talking about Paterno, Spanier, and those under them because that is the topic of the article?

And you don't think that the reporter who wrote the article didn't focus on Sandusky because (I know this is a new thought for you) he has already been arrested and charged and is awaiting his trial by the justice system...whereas Paterno and Spanier were still running a major institution as if they had done nothing wrong?

Did you just stumble onto this story for the first time today?