Posted on 11/10/2011 1:31:44 PM PST by Colofornian
Edited on 11/10/2011 1:42:30 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Folks, this is Joe Paterno's legacy.
E-mails jump into my inbox defending Paterno...
I won't remember what Paterno did, but what he didn't do. What he didn't do is what got him fired...
Firing Joe Paterno doesn't fix everything, but it's a great start.
(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
Of course. Joe and the university had the power to keep the on-campus acts quiet!
You are babbling (as you've been for a while)
At least Perry admitted that he had 'stepped in it'.
You are implying that Paterno was not concerned about it.
No. I was asking you if you were implying that it was 'no big deal' to Joe.
Did Paterno ever go up to his colleague, that he spent 30 YEARS with, and confront him about it?
Which they said was not enforced. They allowed him to use the facilities till the DAY the indictments were announced even though everyone in College State knew about the years long investigation! They just told McQueary that so he would go away. Don't you realize how cover-ups are arranged?
Sandusky retired in the summer of 1999 (presumably being forced out due to the 1998 investigation which EVERYONE knew about).
1. Paterno kept him on as his Defensive Coordinator for the next season.
2. Paterno watched as multiple organizations heaped award after award upon Sandusky.
3. Paterno watched as the players carried Sandusky off the field.
4. Paterno stated that Sandusky's departure was like having your son walk out the door.
He appears to have done that with the '98 case -- which police did investigate.
By 2002, Sandusky wasn't his colleague and probably not his friend. The person who should have approached Sandusky was the A.D.
I’m sorry, but if JoePa said “Jump”, everybody in State College would say, “How High?”
And what do you think your ongoing rah-rah primal screams of righteous rage of Paterno are going to accomplish? What do you possibly wish to extract from either Paterno or the situation? He’s gone, he’s disgraced, his legacy is destroyed, and he’s likely open to lawsuits. He’s pretty much done as done can get. I think my focus of finding the rest of the rats is going to have alot more effect than beating a dead horse.
You seriously need to get off Paterno and move on. There is nothing tactically and strategically to be gained by sitting there and continuing to rant and vomit rivers or moral indignation at him. It’s a complete waste of time and uses energy and spotlight that should be focused on the others involved in this, some of whom may still be abusing kids as we speak.
I really don’t get the whole ‘public sentiment’ and ‘trial in the court of public opinion’ crap. It accomplishes nothing but feed some people’s obsessive-compulsive desire to pontificate righteous moral outrage. So wow, you’ve brought the holy symbol of Saint Joe crashing to the ground and destroyed it forever. How does that get justice for the kids against the people that abused and still may be abusing them? It doesn’t.
I care about justice. If there is a sex ring, all that energy focusing on Paterno needs to be turned to demanding it be investigated, and if true those people prosecuted and jailed. I really don’t understand why that keeps being avoided and deflected her and the spotlight being brought back to Joe, when nothing else can be accomplished with that.
Starting to seriously wonder if there are some on this board who deliberately want to keep the focus on Joe forever so the public gaze doesn’t demand and possibly expose the depth of what may be going on at PSU to protect those who also may be guilty. I’m beginning to think JimRob needs to clean some serious house around here.
When did Sandusky's contract end?
Don't you realize how paranoia starts?
It starts when you're always afraid. You step out of line, the man come and take you away.
Your attempts at rewriting history are getting more pathetic. At least now you are admitting that Joe knew of the 1998 incident and Joe kept him on his staff after the incident and even kept him on his staff after Sandusky retired referring to Sandusky's departure at his last game as 'like a son'.
Spanier wanted to let Joe go. If he was more powerful than Joe, Joe would have been gone a long time ago, especially when Penn State sucked in the early 00’s.
There is a child services report and a police report. It was reviewed by the PSU and Second Mile attorney.
When did Sandusky's contract end?
As I said before. He retired in the summer of 1999 about a YEAR after the 1998 event. Joe kept him on for a YEAR knowing he was a child molester.
Joe kept him on for the season AFTER his retirement knowing he was a child molester.
Joe referred to him as 'like a son' months after his retirement.
Not according to Joe.
You: Your attempts at rewriting history are getting more pathetic.
So, police did not investigate the '98 case? Paterno did not, controversially and unexpectedly, decline to renew Sandusky's contract?
It's not me trying to deny history.
referring to Sandusky's departure at his last game as 'like a son'.
And that means what exactly?
You are seriously, desperately trying to concoct this ‘conspiracy of Joe Paterno’ with dramatic broad brushes of speculation and desperate reaching.
It MAY have gone down like that, but at this point we have very little evidence that it DID go down like that. I will concede that Paterno should have followed up after the 2002 incident, but you act as if that because Paterno didn’t move heaven and earth to impale Sandusky on a spike in the public square that old Joe was the hub of some deep dark conspiracy.
Joe was a moral coward. No one disputes that. After the bar he set, he had every right to get booted out on his butt. But the willful conspiracy thing? You need to look at Curley, Schultz, Spanier, Waddell, the DA, the police, and possibly many many others and focus your outrage there. Until I hear and see more evidence, the Great Joe Paterno Deep Dark Pedophile Conspiracy is a bunch of delusion on people’s mind.
You all need to get your eyes of Paterno and start focusing on this very possible sex ring that Mark Madden was talking about. The obsessive fixation on Paterno is not going to help bring even one of the possible perps to justice.
You do realize that we can't 'get off Paterno' as long as you keep posting BS. Most of these posts you so detest are in reponse to the BS that you and Tribune7 keep posting.
We are. We just keep getting redirected to Joe by posters like you that keep posting pathetic BS about Joe. Joe knew. Move on.
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