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Good Riddance, Joe Paterno [Warning: Graphic Penn State 'rant']
The Daily Beast ^ | Nov. 10, 2011 | Buzz Bissinger

Posted on 11/11/2011 1:25:04 AM PST by Colofornian

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To: Colofornian

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_sexual_abuse_accusations_against_Michael_Jackson

This describes the case against Michael Jackson in 1993 - the result of which probably gave many pedophiles the green light.

It also describes the negligent mother - who was so enamored of the ‘celebrity’ environment she and her child were experiencing - she failed her responsibilities to her son. I’m sure some of the parents of Sandusky’s victims were captured by the ‘college football coach aura’ and failed to listen to their better instincts.


61 posted on 11/11/2011 8:14:36 AM PST by sodpoodle (Cain - touching the better angels of our nature. Newt - knowledge is power.)
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To: who knows what evil?
Sandusky is a homosexual pedophile...why is everyone afraid of saying that?

I know that the homosexual community has done more to open the door for pedophilia than people know about, but I'd like to hear to response to this one: What do you say if somebody says, 'Well, they don't use the term heterosexual pedophile, either' ?

62 posted on 11/11/2011 8:45:06 AM PST by Colofornian (The Perv State KNitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: MrEdd; samtheman
He is out on bail.

It took them about 4 months shy of a decade to arrest him...as they started only investigating him in earnest about 3 yrs ago

63 posted on 11/11/2011 8:48:33 AM PST by Colofornian (The Perv State KNitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: CAluvdubya
Can someone fill me on something? I guess I've missed it but, how did this story finally come to light?

Read it here: Mothers of two of Jerry Sandusky's alleged victims lash out at Penn State officials' handling...

64 posted on 11/11/2011 8:53:18 AM PST by Colofornian (The Perv State KNitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: theyalllie
Yes, it is absolutely true that by not reporting Sandusky to the police ALL those in the know - Paterno, McQueery, AD, Pres. Etc. - knowingly unleashed a vicious child predator on the children of Happy Valley and elsewhere. However, it’s MUCH worse than that! Sandusky operated with the implied approval/backing/OK from Joe Paterno himself! He was accepted as “a great guy” by virtue of his long association with PSU and most importantly JoePa. If the moral and great JoePa says he’s OK, then he’s OK by us! Who would even question such a man in the community - “of course he can take my son to the ballgame! It’s an honor”! “What camp should I send my son to? Well, the PSU/Sandusky camp of course where he’ll learn football from the best but also learn the values of Joe Paterno!”. It’s far sicker what Joe Paterno did by ignoring this than I have read anywhere. Sandusky was his guy - just like all the long-time coaches were.

Good catch. And please keep repeating this emphasis when you post on different threads.

As I read what you wrote, I thought of a "red flag" word picture.

...like a highway flagman frantically waving down a motorcade of cars
-- trying to halt them...
...but they move on...
...confident that the car in front (Paterno) won't lead them astray...
...yet the bridge is washed out ahead...

"The arm of flesh will fail you" (Jer. 17:5)...or as the NIV renders it: "5 This is what the LORD says:
“Cursed is the one who trusts in man,
who draws strength from mere flesh

A few verses later:

9 The heart is deceitful above all things
and beyond cure.
Who can understand it?
10 “I the LORD search the heart
and examine the mind,
to reward each person according to their conduct,
according to what their deeds deserve.”

65 posted on 11/11/2011 9:06:32 AM PST by Colofornian (The Perv State KNitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: Campion
This article is an exercise in poor logic. You can't generalize from what was going on at Penn State and assume it applies to every college sports program

If you click on a few of the imbedded links in the article...for example, one of the links takes you to the Miami scandal...the author isn't only referencing Penn State.

Penn State and Miami aren't the only scandals of late...Ohio State, etc.

I think Jim Lampley has a point (post #4)...What has become distinctive about some of the sports programs of late...especially football...is that it's now beyond an adjunct to the educational institution. It's now it's own entity, commercialized as such to suck as much $ from the region and nation as possible.

As such, more is tolerated within it because who wants to rock a boat hauling diamonds from the island where they it struck it rich with a diamond field?

66 posted on 11/11/2011 9:13:06 AM PST by Colofornian (The Perv State KNitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: Colofornian

Yhank you :)


67 posted on 11/11/2011 9:36:26 AM PST by CAluvdubya (I STAND WITH CAIN)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

Sandusky could’ve been the founder/high priest of NAMBLA,given his sick and twisted resume.Wonder what little gems his computer hard drive holds? And how could his wife have turned a blind eye to this? I find it hard to believe she didn’t know...she just didn’t WANT to know.According to the GJR,she did try to call the one victim before he was to give testimony...was she calling to find out why he was going to say,or to find out why he was testifying in the first place? This is all so sordid.


68 posted on 11/11/2011 11:13:04 AM PST by gimme1ibertee ("Criticism......brings attention to an unhealthy state of things"-Winston Churchill)
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To: xzins
If Paterno's insistence above is true, then what difference would it make?

Because both the GJ presentment and the GJ findings are very careful not to describe what McQueary said he told Paterno. And if McQueary is called to testify publicly in a criminal proceeding against Sandusky, or in any one of the countless possible criminal or civil suits, or state or federal investigations or hearings, McQueary may well say that he told Paterno that it was anal rape.

Second, if Paterno lives long enough, then he may have to testify publicly, or be deposed, in one of these criminal or civll suits or investigations or hearings.

Then there's the matter of the 1998 University Police investigation into incidents (plural) of Sandusky in the football showers with boys. Somebody may have to testify about whether Joe Paterno knew about that investigation, and whether he knew of the findings, and whether he saw a copy of any reports or memos.

And the 2002 incident when a janitor observed Sandusky committing oral sodomy on a boy in the football showers.

Not only may we hear from the other party to the 2002 conversation that Paterno 'insists" was only about fondling or "something of a sexual nature", but we may hear of many other things that Paterno knew . . . and not in the context of a trial or attack on Paterno. Simply in the context of the barrage of lawsuits and investigations and hearings that are going to follow this.

69 posted on 11/11/2011 11:23:38 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I stand for something; therefore, I can't stand Romney)
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To: Colofornian
The story is unfolding at the speed of sound, not just the worst sports scandal in modern history but also one of the worst scandals in modern history:

It's ugly, but let's hang onto some sense of proportion. Fast & Furious killed hundreds of people. Nobody died from the Penn State scandal, with the possible exception of that attorney.

70 posted on 11/11/2011 11:33:26 AM PST by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: gleeaikin

Lots of articles on the net, several on this website:
http://elle-kynzer.wrytestuff.com/swa788850-Sandusky-Was-Not-Prosecuted-In-1998-By-The-Da-Who-Disappeared-In-2005-Why-Not.htm


71 posted on 11/11/2011 11:42:13 AM PST by Kackikat
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To: RedwM

Paterno denies knowing anything about the 1998 incident which happened in his locker room’s showers. Even though the episode was investigated by campus police, State College city police, and the PA Child Welfare Bureau, Paterno and his attorney son claim JoePa never knew about it. Even though Sandusky suddenly decided to retire a few months later at the peak of his career and only age 55, never to coach a college team again, Paterno says he never knew.


73 posted on 11/11/2011 12:25:57 PM PST by GAgal
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
It is almost impossible for Paterno to have not known in 1998 and 1999 the reason why his #2 guy, at 55, was removed from his position and never went on to be the head coach for another program.

The reason, in 1998, was that Sandusky was caught on tape admitting to taking a shower with a young boy.

So the 2002 incident that McQueary witnessed was almost certainly the SECOND (at least) time that Paterno had heard of Sandusky in the shower at HIS facility with a young boy.

Fast forward 13 years after the first event and nine years after the second - and Paterno and McQueary are STILL seeing Sandusky around PennState facilities with young boys in tow?

74 posted on 11/11/2011 12:44:32 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Colofornian
To paraphrase him, he said when College Football began to become its own-purposed self-entity -- vs. being an adjunct of the educational institution -- is what has led to its downfall exposure.

What each and every one of the so-called adults in this did, the same sin they all committed was "protecting the brand". There was so much money involved that it was imperative that 'the PSU brand' be protected at all costs, no matter if some children suffered under Sandusky (and possibly others) as a result.

That this type of thinking is erroneous *should* have been obvious to 'college educated' people, but was not, is a sad commentary on our times. It is also indicative of something I personally have held to be largely true for quite some time now. That something is that the end product of college isn't so much an education, as it is a complete indoctrination.

Thus, they were either unwilling, or even more shocking, unable to see that the steps they took in 'protecting the brand' lead, in the final analysis, to 'the brand' becoming worthless, and an object of utter scorn. Let those who have been indoctrinated in the Gospel of Marx take heed. The end most emphatically does *NOT* justify the means...

the infowarrior

75 posted on 11/11/2011 2:12:23 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: infowarrior
What each and every one of the so-called adults in this did, the same sin they all committed was "protecting the brand". There was so much money involved that it was imperative that 'the PSU brand' be protected at all costs, no matter if some children suffered under Sandusky (and possibly others) as a result. That this type of thinking is erroneous *should* have been obvious to 'college educated' people, but was not, is a sad commentary on our times. It is also indicative of something I personally have held to be largely true for quite some time now. That something is that the end product of college isn't so much an education, as it is a complete indoctrination. Thus, they were either unwilling, or even more shocking, unable to see that the steps they took in 'protecting the brand' lead, in the final analysis, to 'the brand' becoming worthless, and an object of utter scorn.

Excellent analysis.

And, btw, even the local PR experts (CBS affiliate TV-21 out of Harrisburg, PA), agreed with that bled over once this story broke:

...the general consensus among local experts is that Penn State was not thinking of the kids when the news broke, they were thinking about their brand, and that was a terrible decision. “Penn State overruled everything,” stated Soni Dimond of Soni Dimond Media. “The image of Penn State, the brand was being protected and the children were not.”
Source: Penn State's handling of Sandusky sex scandal has been a PR nightmare, say experts

76 posted on 11/11/2011 4:54:56 PM PST by Colofornian (The Perv State KNitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: wolf24; wolficatZ
Who was that erased from that painting? Just curious....

Sandusky the boy-rapist

77 posted on 11/11/2011 4:56:04 PM PST by Colofornian (The Perv State KNitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: Matchett-PI
Is Michael Mann *single*?

(OTOH, Sandusky was married, right?)

Cheers!

78 posted on 11/12/2011 6:58:26 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: MacMattico
Just read that in addition to adopting 5 boys, (and 1 girl) the Sandusky’s had many foster children over the years...

I'd love to hear Michelle Bachmann on this.

Cheers!

79 posted on 11/12/2011 7:00:04 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: MacMattico
And you can't make this stuff up : his autobiography is titled TOUCHED: The Jerry Sandusky story.

From 'Heather has two Mommies' to 'Billy has two Coaches'...

NO Cheers, unfortunately.

80 posted on 11/12/2011 7:00:51 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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