Posted on 11/11/2011 8:45:57 PM PST by This Just In
The Tragic Lessons of Penn State — A Call to Action
What would prevent this scandal at your school or church? Thursday, November 10, 2011
No one thought it would end this way. Joe Paterno, the legendary head football coach at Penn State University heard of his firing by the school’s board of trustees by phone last night. Just two weeks after achieving the most wins of any NCAA Division One football coach in history, Paterno was fired. His firing — a necessary action by the Penn State board of trustees — holds lessons for us all.
Almost a decade ago, a graduate assistant told Coach Paterno that an assistant coach, Jerry Sandusky, had been observed forcing a young boy into a sexual act in the school’s football locker room showers. Sandusky was himself a big name in Penn State football, and he was considered a likely successor to Paterno if the head coach had retired. Sandusky also ran a non-profit organization for boys, and he brought the boys onto the Penn State campus. He continued to do so even after his own retirement from Penn State’s coaching staff.
After hearing the report, Paterno informed university officials of the accusation. At that point, little or nothing seems to have happened. The scandal broke into public view last Saturday, when Sandusky was arrested and charged with 40 felony counts of sexual abuse involving young boys. Penn State had been harboring a serial child sex abuser. Also arrested were the university’s athletic director and its senior vice president of business and finance. Both were charged with failure to report the abuse and with perjury.
(Excerpt) Read more at albertmohler.com ...
You haven’t followed Mohler closely at all. In fact you are too intellectually lazy to do a search: http://www.abpnews.com/content/view/6496/53/
Like so many Southern Baptists, you are a soft-minded, ill-informed, follower of denominational celebrities. Little do you know that the GCR, which Mohler pushed, is taking the SBC into full-on social liberalism. Of course, you know nothing of that either.
You might be interested in an audio:
http://www.torahlearningcenter.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=63&Itemid=70
8th in the list:
World Perfect - The Jewish Contribution to Civilization by Rabbi Ken Spero
Why?
This is the “culture” they have been pushing on the country for 40 years.
Can it be they are upset because it tarnishes college football and coach Paterno?
Or are they upset that the scandal is such an ugly display of the perversion that is the essence of homosexualism that it might cause a setback to the homosexual agenda?
Many seem more upset that the coach was fired than the fact that he and other grown men in positions of responsibility at the college knew young boys were being sexually abused by one of their own and did nothing to stop the pervert and protect the children.
They are all disgusting hypocrites!
And disturbing that Sandusky adopted six children. And now the wife of one of those adopted (now grown) children recently took out a protective order to prevent her children from being around their grandfather. This makes me suspect that the adopted son finally told his wife what had happened in that house.
achilles2000,
I find your link rather interesting, if not revealing. Why didn’t you go directly to Dr. Mohler’s blog? I know why. You’d rather read the misleading article of a critic who happens to represent your religious beliefs than the subject of your personal attacks.
Dr. Mohler had no control over the decisions made by the Presbyterian Church of the Twin Cities approved. Welcome to the real world. Is it news that liberalism is alive and well in the church?
Who is being “soft-minded, ill-informed, followers...”?
Dr. Mohler clearly articulated his point and position:
“All references to marriage and chastity are gone, along with the language about refusal to repent of sin. The new language speaks instead of submission to the Lordship of Christ and being guided by Scripture and confessions. In any other context, that language might not seem revolutionary, but in this case, it means the denomination’s surrender to those pushing for the normalization of homosexuality.
Put another way, this church has now decided that “fidelity within the covenant of marriage between a man and a woman or chastity in singleness” is just too restrictive”
And Dr. Mohler states:
“That is a fundamental error that leaves this denomination now in the implausible position of claiming to affirm the Lordship of Christ while subverting the authority of Scripture. The removal of the constitutional language about marriage and chastity, coupled with the removal of the language about repentance from what Scripture identifies as sin, effectively means that candidates and presbyteries may defy Scripture while claiming to follow Christ.
Clearly, this action could not have happened without this denomination having abandoned any required belief in the full authority, inspiration, and truthfulness of the Bible long ago. This most recent decision sets the stage for the total capitulation of this church to the normalization of homosexuality — an act of open defiance against the Scriptures.”
And:
“Well, the feelings no doubt run deep, but the injury to this church runs far deeper than feelings. This is yet another tragedy in the sad history of mainline Protestantism’s race toward total theological disaster.”
I wasn’t paying attention to this story until yesterday, so I’m not very caught up on it, but I think yes, this is how this stuff usually goes. These monsters know how to make this situation work. It makes me ill. No wonder we have so much of this now, we have a plague of fatherless kids out there. A pox on ALL of the people who caused this blight.
I’m afraid the government and its compliant people have outlawed “real men,” and as the saying goes, “We shall not see their likes again.”
This just In: “Stop Snitchin”
No thanks.
I will opt for biblical morality where designated representatives of the people investigate perported crimes and law enforcement then steps in where warrented.
Your false dichotomy of either anarchy or predetirmined automatic guilt is not what this country was built on and I have zero interest in letting either of the extremes that you believe to be the only options prevail.
Unfair?
Not in any way.
“I’m afraid the government and its compliant people have outlawed “real men,” and as the saying goes, “We shall not see their likes again.””
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Indeed.
Act like a real man in today’s society and you will be descending on by wimpy little ACLU lawyer cowards, or their like kind in black robes.
The writer went off the tracks there. No, people should not report any suspicion of child abuse to law enforcement. The Penn State case was not suspicion, but more than one instance of eye witnesses to abuse and other very inappropriate, observed behaviors with young boys.
Reporting any suspicion can create injustices almost as severe in the opposite direction by practically ruining the lives of people who are falsely accused of such a stigmatizing crime. There needs to be a higher standard for the decision to contact law enforcement than suspicion.
Otherwise a good article.
“Stop Snitchin”?
Mr.Edd, not so. Fairness has nothing to do with my position. I know individuals personally who have been falsely accused of crimes they never committed. These same individuals were jailed, had their children taken from them, and had their photos splashed all over the news and in papers. They were represented by legal council and found to be innocent. The allegations were reported by either “anonymous” “witnesses”, or neighbors who “suspect” something.
I hope you never have to suffer through such ordeals. Sadly, you’ve bought into the liberal lie that we must report “suspicious” activity. Better yet, read Orwell’s 1984. Lest you forget, 2+2=5.
It’s always refreshing to read comments from Freepers who completely understand the issues and ramifications.
They suspected malnourishment from neglect, but she has a genetic Chromosome deletion syndrome.
The system worked we got her back but had to give custody to family who could afford the astronomical costs of the care she has needed.
Sometimes the system malfunctions, but the solution is to reform it not scrap it.
I advocated an investigation when there appears to be a problem and I stand by that. Charges should be filed before incarceration, but children need to be removed to protective custody during the initial detailed investigation - if a cursory investigation warrants that. Even if it's me and my children.
You will see me posting on most threads about rape and sexual abuse. Why do you think that is?
I have been on both sides.
I am truly sorry that you were suspected of a crime. I’m also sorry for the trauma your family, and especially your daughter, had to endure during the investigation.
No one should be reported simply because an individual “suspects” a crime.
I am happy to hear that your family’s ordeal concluded with a favorable and just outcome.
Similarly in a lot of abuse cases with children, if nothing is done and done soon the child will die or be maimed.
There is no perfect solution, but not having investigations is absolutely not in the running for good solutions, let alone the best solution.
Here’s more:
From this article:
“But the concept of sexual orientation that underlies the proposed guidelines for the Church of England is very different. In the context of Britain’s Equality Act of 2010, a same-sex sexual orientation is something to be put on an equal status with heterosexuality, as if there were nothing wrong with such an orientation.”
“American churches and denominations had better take note. When a church or Christian institution bows to the authority of the state on a matter of such direct biblical importance, it is destined to lose biblical fidelity. The proposed guidelines for the Church of England should serve as an alarm to all churches concerning this real and present danger.”
Dr. Mohler has been consistently clear about his theological views on homosexuality and the church. Your false accusations concerning his stand on this issue and the church are disingenuous if not outrageous.
When Dr. Mohler stated in the same article:
“Thus, a believer confessing a struggle with same-sex attraction should not be condemned by the church, but brought under its care, discipline, ministry, and protection. In this sense, biblical Christians can understand sexual “orientation” to be a legitimate category that identifies a particular struggle with sin.”
....he was referring to the Christian mandate to minister and evangelize to the non-believer, or a Christian who may be struggling to overcome sexual sin. I have yet to read Dr. Mohler suggesting, let alone eluding to any action which encourages a homosexual lifestyle.
Your situation is anecdotal.
Yes, I support criminal investigation...for those cases which warrant such action. I do not support the unlawful investigation of law abiding citizens simply because someone “suspects” a crime.
PS president Graham Spanier was also fired——his bgrnd answers the one question on everyone’s mind——how Sandusky got free rein in the PS showers with young boys.
Did Spanier participate, as well? He certainly had an obsession with pederasty and moved hell and high water to give gay sex a foothold in PS.
VITAL REFERENCE Paterno is getting the most attention, but FREEPER PA BOOKENDS posted this WRT Graham Spanier, the President – who was also fired.
Spanier’s degrees are in sociology with an emphasis on things sexual – wife swapping, adolescent sex. He claimed he wanted to make PSU the most LGBT-friendly university in the country. Penn State had the first gay fraternity in the nation. Under Spanier’s leadership, Penn State has sponsored “the Tent of Consent” - all about gay sex, as well as C*ntfest (I hope you find that shocking).
Shortly after his arrival, Spanier tried to get rid of Paterno. Hmmmm. Why would that be? The football program was bringing in tons of money. Paterno was (and remained) one of the LOWEST paid college coaches in the country. He, Paterno, has donated millions to the University. Spanier lost the battle, but one has to ask: why was Spanier so eager to get rid of Joe??
It becomes clearer and clearer why Spanier was out to ditch Paterno-—Spanier had to clear out any and all obstacles in his path to solidifying Penn State as a protected pedophilia haven.
Here’s another response to your lies, attacks, and the authors false claims:
Here’s Dr. Mohler’s views, not Bob Allen’s, on the subject:
“The Church and the ‘Clobber Scriptures’ — The Bible on Homosexuality
Friday, June 3, 2011
Is the Church guilty of beating people with the Bible? As strange as that argument might sound, it is actually a powerful weapon in the hands of those who are determined to normalize homosexuality and same-sex marriage within the Church. Those pushing for the acceptance of homosexuality now argue that Christians opposed to that agenda are “clobbering” sinners with the biblical text.”
Dr. Mohler concludes his article with this:
“Without a knowledge of our sinfulness, we do not know of our need for a Savior. In this sense, we all need to be “clobbered” by the Bible so that we will know of our need for Christ.
God loved sinful humanity so much that he gave us the Bible — and the Law — in order that we might know with revealed specificity the truth about our own sinfulness. Then, we truly celebrate what it means that “God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.” [John 3:16]
The Bible’s condemnation of same-sex behaviors is comprehensive and clear. It is interwoven with the Bible’s message concerning God’s plan for humanity, marriage, and society — and the Gospel. Human flourishing is found only by living in obedience to God’s revealed plan. Our rebellion against the Creator is never so insidious as when we declare that our own plan is superior to his.
When the Bible, in part or in whole, is dismissed as “clobber Scriptures,” it is not only the Bible that is subverted, but also the Gospel. The Church must recognize that fact clearly — and fast.”
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