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Romney, Gingrich at GOP debate: We'd go to war to keep Iran from getting nuclear weapons
CBS News ^ | November 12, 2011 | Brian Montopoli

Posted on 11/12/2011 6:26:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

SPARTANBURG, S.C. -- Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich said at the Republican presidential debate here Saturday night that they would be willing to go to war to keep Iran from attaining nuclear weapons if all other strategies failed.

Romney said that if "crippling sanctions" and other strategies fail, military action would be on the table because it is "unacceptable" to Iran to become a nuclear power. Gingrich agreed, saying that if "maximum covert operations" and other strategies failed there would be no other choice.

Ron Paul strongly disagreed, stressing the need to go to Congress before military action and saying it isn't worthwhile to use military force against Iran.

"I'm afraid what's going on right now is similar to the war propaganda that went on against Iraq," he said.

Herman Cain also opposed military action against Iran, saying the U.S. should increase sanctions, deploy ballistics missiles warships in the region and assist the opposition movement.

The "Commander-in-Chief Debate," sponsored by CBS News and National Journal, was the first of the 2012 presidential cycle to focus on foreign policy - and the first to appear on network television. For Cain, the stakes were particularly high.

Cain holds a narrow lead among GOP primary voters in the CBS News poll released Friday, with 18 percent of the vote, but he has seen his support weaken in the wake of revelations that he has been accused of sexual misconduct by four women....

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; gingrich; hermancain; iran; mittromney; newtgingrich; obama; perry; polls; romney; ronpaul; wot
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So they think that if they keep repeating the lie about his poll numbers that it'll affect his poll numbers?
1 posted on 11/12/2011 6:26:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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2 posted on 11/12/2011 6:30:27 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t think I would take military action off the table even if actual military action is a mistake.

It should be kept on the table because the Iranian leadership is watching the debates.


3 posted on 11/12/2011 6:30:31 PM PST by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Four women? I thought they only uncovered two, and one of them was the Clinton regime's spokeslady for the Elian Kidnapping.

The Democrats came up with particularly unsympathetic victims

I wish they'd improve the quality of the hired liars ~ these ol'gals looked like they'd been rode hard and put away wet too many times.

4 posted on 11/12/2011 6:32:39 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cain and Bachmann would return to waterboarding.


5 posted on 11/12/2011 6:32:44 PM PST by umgud
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To: cripplecreek
I'd lie about it.

The Iranians are, after all, descendants of the Persians, so they'll assume we are lying to them because, after all, they lie all the time to each other. These are the guys who invented TEMPORARY MARRIAGE!

6 posted on 11/12/2011 6:34:09 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Iran couldn't deliver nukes to the U.S. if they wanted to. It's Israel's threat, not ours.

So will either of these guys go to war against Mexico, an enemy nation that is trying - succeeding - to invade and colonize the United States? That's a real threat, not a fake one.

7 posted on 11/12/2011 6:35:44 PM PST by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: Regulator
IIRC, the Iranians are looking to test our international waters with missile boats in the near future and their MRBMs could hit us from Cuba or Venezuela.
8 posted on 11/12/2011 6:38:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: muawiyah
I'd lie about it.

Exactly. I believe boots on the ground in Iran would be a disaster but I certainly wouldn't let them know I feel that way.
9 posted on 11/12/2011 6:39:01 PM PST by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: Regulator
Iran couldn't deliver nukes to the U.S. if they wanted to. It's Israel's threat, not ours.

They have boats don't they? They have shipping containers, don't they?

10 posted on 11/12/2011 6:39:35 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did any one hear that Pakistan moves their 100 nukes unguarded from one place to another?

Does any one not know that Al Qaeda leaders are given sanctuary in Pakistan? For crying out loud, Bin Laden was living in a large house near the Pakistani military academy for over 5 years?

Why is Iran with their 1 nuke more dangerous than Pakistan with their 100 nukes and a shaky situation?


11 posted on 11/12/2011 6:41:43 PM PST by federal__reserve (Dr. Paul Volcker, the best Chairman of federal Reserve in half a century.)
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To: muawiyah

Much like many of Obama’s anecdotal examples:

1 - Healthcare debate Obama telling story of a woman who got denied coverage that was a lie

2 - Jobs bill Obama told the story of a teacher who got laid off who didn’t actually get laid off...

And now with Cain, the left has found some women who had stories to tell which sound bad on the face but do not stand up to any sort of scrutiny.


12 posted on 11/12/2011 6:43:55 PM PST by Personal Responsibility (He's not perfect; no one is. He's a human running for President not Son of God!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cain being unwilling to stop Iran is where he loses me. I was more than willing to go ahead with EVERYTHING else, but not this.

Gingrich 2012!


13 posted on 11/12/2011 6:54:33 PM PST by RobinWWJD
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They aren’t going to “go to war” to prevent Iran from getting the bomb.


14 posted on 11/12/2011 6:54:59 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...to keep Iran from attaining nuclear weapons...

The correct answer is "Everything is on the table."

It may not be true, but the Iranians don't know that. As Sun Zi said "All warfare is based on deception."

15 posted on 11/12/2011 6:56:24 PM PST by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the People's Republic of Boulder)
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To: RobinWWJD

War with Iran is idiotic. Just attack their nuclear program or help Israel do it. We shouldn’t be going to war with anyone unless its absolutely necessary. War with Iran is not necessary in the least. Take out their nukes and let them pound sand.


16 posted on 11/12/2011 6:57:20 PM PST by bigdirty
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To: federal__reserve
Why is Iran with their 1 nuke more dangerous than Pakistan with their 100 nukes and a shaky situation?

They are not more dangerous, but that is not a good reason for letting nukes proliferate. If we can do something to stop them from getting a nuke, we should do just that.

Once a country becomes a nuclear power, we have to be more careful with them. They also have much more influence with surrounding countries.

17 posted on 11/12/2011 6:58:11 PM PST by oldbrowser (They are Marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: oldbrowser

Pakistan has India as a counterbalance. Iraq used to be the counterbalance to Iran but that is no longer the case. Pakistan won’t screw around with nukes because India will obliterate them.


18 posted on 11/12/2011 6:59:36 PM PST by bigdirty
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Their navy is tiny and could be destroyed basically in an afternoon if we wanted to. Probably should just for practice.

As far as MRBMs in the Caribbean, that would be the excuse we've been waiting on for the last 50 years since Khruschev pulled the missiles back. Go ahead, make our day.

The whole thing is laughable. Iran is, as the nice CIA guy said last night, Israel's problem. We should just contract the hit on them to Netanyahu.

But Mexico is right next door, animated by centuries of resentment and hatred, and a seething rage at the "loss" of "their" territories...you know, the land that had all the big airports, skyscrapers, freeways, houses....and us evil gringos took it. Damn. So they gotta get it back, and, lacking a nuke or two, they figured out that they could just walk in, and if anyone objects, call them a racist. If a state makes a law, sue them in their own courts, even when it's an outrage that such a thing could be.

And if they really try to resist, don't hold back - make veiled threats with your military by crossing into the U.S. with impunity and having your paramilitary terrorist forces ("Los Zetas") shoot up a few places. Pretty soon the populace shuts up and gets in line.

Sorry. It's true we have an M&M problem: Muslims and Mexico. Of the two, the latter is the most pertinent...at the moment.

The former? They're only a threat if we let their people in to our country. That's how they hit us the last few times. Stop letting them in, and presto...the problem goes away.

19 posted on 11/12/2011 7:00:15 PM PST by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don't see anybody's poll numbers changing because of this debate, because this was just a badly produced debate with a terrible moderator who managed to make everybody look good.

They appear to be asking questions based on who is the tops in the poll numbers, so I wish they'd stop with the pretense and only invite the top 4-5.
20 posted on 11/12/2011 7:02:32 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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