Posted on 11/14/2011 8:43:02 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
STATE COLLEGE, Pa (Reuters) - The lawyer for the Penn State football coach charged with child sex abuse said in an interview on Monday the boy at the center of a 2002 incident detailed in the grand jury's report had been identified and said it never happened.
Jerry Sandusky, the former defensive coordinator for the Penn State Nittany Lions, was arrested more than a week ago on charges he sexually abused eight young boys over a 15-year period.
Speaking to sportscaster Bob Costas, Joe Amendola, who represents Sandusky, said "we anticipate we're going to have at least several of those kids come forward and say, 'This never happened.'"
Sandusky, in a telephone interview with Costas that aired at the same time, acknowledged he had horsed around and showered with children involved in the Second Mile charity he founded.
But he denied he was a pedophile.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...
At least some of the boys had parents, but I think most were single-parent homes.
Actually THE STATE presumes him guilty and tries to show that in a court of law. The court presumes him innocent and THE STATE can not deprive him of his liberty or property unless THE STATE can prove beyond a reasonable doubt to triers of fact, jury or judge as the case may be, that he is guilty of something.
You do not consider the victims eyewitnesses?
This becoming public knowledge, whatever this is, is NOT the case. That Sandusky was investigated previously and the DA did not charge him was apparently public knowledge.
There will be two cases if this goes to trial. The state will present its case. The defense will present its case for defense. Then the trier[s] of fact will decide. So far you have only heard a small part of the governments version and they presume him guilty or they would not charge him.
“We might make the analogy that Mike Nifong also had a Grand Jury, and many of the FReepers who refused to believe that indictment are all too willing to claim every word in the current document is Gospel.”
You seem to have a problem with people executing independent judgement and discernment. If there are two GJ reports, detailing different incidents, one could read them and conclude that one is most likely true, and the other most likely false. I think most of the people that you are talking about did not just hear there was a GJ report and say “oh he’s guilty”, they read the thing and weighed the testimony themselves and came to their own conclusions.
2nd Mile has between two and three million dollars in annual donations from all donors.
Penn State’s top donor in this year donated 88 million dollars. That’s one donor. They had six donors just this year who gave over 10 million dollars each.
See #220. There’s no comparison.
#226, I mean. It’s late.
” At what point is this a smoking gun.”
When he admits to a crime. That did not happen. So it is a matter of the version of events of various witnesses and how well their versions hold up under questioning.
You can judge him guilty of being creepy. You can certainly shun him and keep your children away from him. I guess you can judge others around him as guilty by association and demand that they be fired. But beyond that, there is not much for you or me to do other than watch the legal process play out.
I’m sure he HOPES enough people are that stupid. A lawyer’s got to defend his client no matter how guilty he looks. Considering the circumstances, this lawyer has his work cut out for him.
Well they found enough stupid people to acquit Michael Jackson.
“But that doesn’t change the fact that decent people have been harmed by nothing more than accusation.”
By “decent people”, I assume you are referring to Paterno et al? They were not harmed by an accusation, as you say, but by the fact that they did not take reasonable steps to ensure that what was reported to them was properly investigated. Even if the accusations against Sandusky somehow prove to be false, their behavior would still be reprehensible.
The court is an agent of the state. The state acts as both the prosecuter and the trier, though they are separate agencies of the state.
Whether it was a matter of public record or not is not the issue. It was certainly not a national news story or common knowledge, therefore your statement made no sense in context.
“When he admits to a crime.”
I’m pretty sure that a grown man wrestling naked with underage boys in the shower is a crime, especially when those boys are not related to him. Perhaps the laws are different in Pennsylvania, but I’d be surprised.
Pretty sure that if this isn't a crime in PA, it should be.
As a father of four, I am absolutely blown away by the accusations. The GJ indictment is brutal. I believe he is innocent until proved guilty in the eyes of the law. In my eyes he is a raging pervert.
He also was protected if even the least of these activities is true.
I am also pretty certain that telling the A.D. is not sufficient when faced with this type of accusation about one of your subordinates. A call to the local police, NOT THE CAMPUS POLICE, is in order. Anything less is acting as an accomplice. If not legally, morally.
That puts him in the position of saying that nothing happened, but he knows who it didn't happen to. Not unlike a person accused of stealing a $50,000 car who denies stealing it and also claims that it wasn't even worth $35,000.
Maybe it doesn't rise to the level of an admission against interest, but the attorney's statement ends up giving the impression that the accused is admitting that "something" happened, even if it's not tantamount to admitting to the actual charges against him.
He was actually in negotiations with Temple at one point.
http://iradiophilly.com/conversation.php?idConversation=582
Belay that. Those negotiations were in 1988, not 1998. Long before the first allegations. My bad.
“It’s the most cultish school in the country.”
LOL! You’ve never met a Notre Dame fan!
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