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Giving Newt a Pass
National Review ^ | 112111 | John Derbyshire

Posted on 11/21/2011 11:32:24 AM PST by Fred

I can’t understand why Newt Gingrich is getting such a pass on his Freddie Mac consulting. He claims to have been a historian for this outfit? FHLMC needs a historian like the U.S.A. needs a Department of Education, like Europe needs a common currency, like … like … I dunno, like Michelle Obama needs another $12,000 accessory.

I sputtered about this on last week’s Radio Derb:

Newt’s trying to ju-jitsu the thing, telling us that his experience as a shill for Freddie Mac gave him valuable insider understanding of governmental affairs. Isn’t that what we want in a candidate, valuable insider understanding of governmental affairs? Quote from Newt, on the campaign trail in Iowa Wednesday, quote: “It reminds people that I know a great deal about Washington. We just tried four years of amateur ignorance, and it didn’t work very well. So having someone who actually knows Washington might be a really good thing.”

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
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To: dirtboy

“Excuse me, nitwit - how is it weasel words to say I pasted the quote verbatim from the linked article?”

How was I able to find the REAL quote and you weren’t?

Because I am interested in the truth, not character assasination, that’s why.

“I didnt knowwwwwwwwww....” Hmmmpph.

And you say I am the nitwit. You are dumber than a rock. I made an allegation that is true. You aren’t man enough to admit it. You asked for us poor Newt defenders to punch a hole in your pretzel logic. Consider it done. Put down the shovel. Pick up some balls.


61 posted on 11/21/2011 12:35:12 PM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: Huck
And look out the window in the cartoon to see how it ends.

You say that almost with satisfaction. And you seem to be a willing participant to it by slamming Newt as an alternative.

Newt is infinitely better than Romney.

62 posted on 11/21/2011 12:36:05 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Fred

I am a hardcore Tea Party member who was prepared to go all-in to support a Palin candidacy and then switched to Cain when she decided not to run.

I have been following Newt Gingrich for a long time and am dismayed by how many Tea Party members are so easily fooled by him.

Newt Gingrich is not what you think he is.

He is telling you what you want to hear without really meaning it.

He is the ultimate insider.

Why didn’t he say anything about the insider trading by Congress?

Newt has a long history. Please do your research. Please do not support him only because “he seems smart in the debates.” Please do your research.

Newt is totally wrong for the Tea Party.

.


63 posted on 11/21/2011 12:37:23 PM PST by bobk333
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To: Servant of the Cross
You say that almost with satisfaction.

In your imagination.

And you seem to be a willing participant to it by slamming Newt as an alternative.

Oh sure. Blame this field of candidates on me.

Newt is infinitely better than Romney.

I don't see it that way.

64 posted on 11/21/2011 12:38:36 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: bassmaner

My favorite part is how Romney is waiting outside like a creep waits outside bars to pick up the drunk chick needing a lift home.


65 posted on 11/21/2011 12:40:52 PM PST by Skeez (O)
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To: Josh Painter
John Derbyshire... Isn’t he the pro-abort guy who supported Giuliani in ‘08 and is an admirer of Ron Paul?

Bingo. Agenda indeed. And many posters who usually immediately discount anything from NR, now wish to hold it up as authoritative?

66 posted on 11/21/2011 12:41:01 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: jessduntno
How was I able to find the REAL quote and you weren’t?

And when I told you I cut and pasted it, you continued attacking me as a liar.

BTW, even in the context you provided, Newt is defending his role with Freddie as he denies being a lobbyist. First of all, the good intentions that Newt mentioned about expanding housing were the driving force behind lowering lending standards. That is what happens to good intentions in DC - they get perverted as soon as enough people figure out how to make a lot of money off of them. Newt knows that but apparently has you bamboozled with his spin defending his tenure as a Freddie advisor. You apparently have discarded your natural skepticism of such DC nonsense in your zeal to push Newt as the anti-Romney.

Second of all, I don't believe for one minute that Freddie and all of the other outfits that paid Newt hansomely only paid him for advice. They paid him for influence, something a former speaker has in spades.

You can believe Newt's I-am-not-a-lobbyist BS if you want. I don't. It flies in the face of what we know about how that town operates.

67 posted on 11/21/2011 12:41:38 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: bobk333

Well said.


68 posted on 11/21/2011 12:42:11 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Huck
I don't see it that way.

My hope is that your prognostication skills hold true to form.

69 posted on 11/21/2011 12:42:41 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: dirtboy

Isn’t there a difference between a campaign contribution and being paid as a consultant? Why are our tax dollars going through Fannie and Freddie to political campaigns?

We can discuss how the consulting fees were handle, the value of Newts advice vs. the payment, etc. But don’t try to tell me he did the same thing that he criticized Obama for. He didn’t.

P.S. - Thanks to jessduntno for busting you on your lying half-quote. Newt is right, every American should be interested in expanding housing opportunities. Aren’t you interested in that? I think every American should be interested in expanding all economic opportunities.

Newt didn’t say it in context of supporting Fannie and Freddie. Expanding housing opportunities and supporting Fannie and Freddie are not the same. (In the long run, they are probably the opposite.)


70 posted on 11/21/2011 12:44:08 PM PST by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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To: dirtboy
There are a few simple solutions that have been presented, like term limits, ethics laws, etc, but the voters keep on ignoring the outcome.

How long does it take for a true “outsider” to go to Washington and soon become one of them? And how many times has that pipe dream been promised, made a reality, and then fallen back into the same old rut?

Pretty much every time.

71 posted on 11/21/2011 12:44:22 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: dirtboy

How was I able to find the REAL quote and you weren’t?

“And when I told you I cut and pasted it, you continued attacking me as a liar.”

So, you got no answer? Lazy, stoned, or just stupid? All of the above?

You can cut an paste pictures of Bigfoot, genius.


72 posted on 11/21/2011 12:46:07 PM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: dirtboy

Hey Dirtboy, in another thread you refused acknowledge the truth about Newt’s first wife. You were still quoting the garbage from the msm regarding his wife having cancer.


73 posted on 11/21/2011 12:46:07 PM PST by Toespi
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To: Servant of the Cross
My hope is that your prognostication skills hold true to form.

Why? I didn't predict anything.

74 posted on 11/21/2011 12:47:11 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Well, at least an outsider starts with trying to stand up to the process. Even if it is only a year or two of fighting the prevailing winds before they are overwhelmed and co-opted, at least there is some slowing of the march towards insanity.


75 posted on 11/21/2011 12:49:32 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Servant of the Cross; jessduntno; MHGinTN; PSYCHO-FREEP
Love the way the Newt-bots go into screaming personal attack mode the second anyone posts anything critical of St Newt around here.

Odd how after months of their recklessly trash talking all the other candidate, the Newt cult want their guy to get a free pass.

The Newt supporters around here demonstrate all the standard characteristics of Cult of Personality followers.

In response to any criticism of their cult figure, they go into screaming personal attack mode trying to obfuscate or divert.

Apparently anything is allowable to a Newt-bot as long as it prevents even the slightest hint of reality penetrating their daily worshiping at the shrine of St. Newt.

76 posted on 11/21/2011 12:50:09 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Toespi
Hey Dirtboy, in another thread you refused acknowledge the truth about Newt’s first wife. You were still quoting the garbage from the msm regarding his wife having cancer.

Liar. Show me one time where I said anything about Newt serving his wife with divorce papers in the hospital. My comments were about Newt having affairs, which is a known fact.

You trolls can't even get your own facts right in your zeal to attack anyone who dares point out Newt's many, many issues.

77 posted on 11/21/2011 12:51:40 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: jessduntno

I notice you can’t be bothered to respond to my point that even if I take the entire quote from Newt, it is still problematic. I guess you just have to bite my ankles because that is all you’ve got.


78 posted on 11/21/2011 12:52:55 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: jessduntno

I wish a person who has shown us those qualities were running. I would support them. Instead, we have Newt.

Ramrod a balanced budget? None of the budgets in this time were balanced, save through smoke and mirrors.

Create jobs? I thought we all agreed that the Feds cannot create jobs.

Cut government jobs? They did drop by about 8% over that time, but I don’t recall much that he did to actually push it.

Cut welfare - he gets a star for supporting that idea.

Kick ass and take names? Nope. Not even close. He compromised away most of his advantages. To be fair, most of that group of GOP establishment pretending to be conservatives did the same.


79 posted on 11/21/2011 12:53:47 PM PST by Ingtar
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To: jessduntno
Do you deny that Newt took money from Freddie when they were helping contruct the house of cards that fell on our heads in 2008?

Do you deny that Newt's quote was an effort on his part to defend taking a lot of money from that insitution?

Do you deny that Newt has become rich playing the part of the Beltway insider?

Do you deny that if this story broke and it was about a retired Dem instead of Newt, you'd be posting about how it proves how corrupt Freddie is - and how corrupt the Dem receipient of that money is as well? And how it shows how incestuous and inbred the town is?

Nah, SCREAM LIAR AT DIRTBOY! HE'S THE SCOUNDREL!

80 posted on 11/21/2011 12:57:08 PM PST by dirtboy
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