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To: SunkenCiv
Prince “O” will soon have us in Syria, defying Russia and putting another muzzie fanatic govt. on Israel's north border. He'll ruin us before we get rid of him.
3 posted on 11/24/2011 11:09:34 PM PST by WePledge (Ich werde fur immer ein Hollenhund werden. Semper Fidelis)
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To: WePledge

Quite a surprising turn in Gog and Magog story with Russia backing Israel’s interest and secular elements while US getting ready to do air support for another islamic extremist takeover of ME.


4 posted on 11/24/2011 11:38:45 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: WePledge

Another war that will be labeled a ‘non-war’ and the anti-war left kooks will ignore it.


5 posted on 11/24/2011 11:43:52 PM PST by South40 (Just say NO to amnesty. Say NO to Newt!)
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This strikes me as extremely worrisome because if the Russians have indeed sold advanced S-300 systems to Syria — and I wouldn’t doubt it for a moment — we’re going to lose planes and pilots.

Russia is not only going to send their best stuff, they are going to send their best operators. Our stuff may be better, but it’s not going to be the turkey shoot Iraq was. Not by a long shot.


6 posted on 11/25/2011 12:15:55 AM PST by Ronin (If we were serious about using the death penalty as a deterrent, we would bring back public hangings)
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To: WePledge; cunning_fish; South40; Ronin; Forward the Light Brigade; Venturer; bert; Sarajevo

Thanks WePledge.
Prince "O" will soon have us in Syria, defying Russia and putting another muzzie fanatic govt. on Israel's north border. He'll ruin us before we get rid of him.
I think this will come out much better than some people think. Russia's actually in a real bind here, and their best case scenario isn't much better than the worst case. And their worst case is more likely.
Another war that will be labeled a 'non-war' and the anti-war left kooks will ignore it.
Thanks South40.
This strikes me as extremely worrisome because if the Russians have indeed sold advanced S-300 systems to Syria -- and I wouldn't doubt it for a moment -- we're going to lose planes and pilots.
Thanks Ronin. We can be patient and let the Syrian uprising take its course, and that course is that Assad is done, out, and either in exile or he'll get the Gaddafy Special.
The way I see it -- we stand up for what we believe or we do not. My fear is that Obama is only doing this to get re-elected and put in a radical group.
Thanks Forward the Light Brigade. Everything that Zero does is to get re-elected and to undermine both our liberty and our sovereignty. Regardless, nations don't have friends and relatives, they have interests. Had we been acting strictly by what we stand up for as if the world were a power vacuum (that time is coming, but it's not here yet), Syria, Lebanon, Iraq would have ceased to exist long ago.
We are setting up the Middle East for an Iranian takeover.
Thanks Venturer. The Syrian uprising isn't in the interests of Iran.

Turkey's plan for an economic common market of the Middle East, a sort of mini-EU, has been blown to pieces by the Syrian uprising, which is of the Sunni majority but organized at least in part by the Gulf States. It was probably inevitable once Turkey started its rapprochement with Iran (and it hadn't far to go, anyway, by the time it started).

The Russians don't want to see Iran aligned with Turkey, either, and don't want the US to breeze on in to help the Syrian uprising, which is already well known to be supported by the Obama administration, and are forced to support the Assad regime, while already being in a patron-client relationship with Iran. Lately the Russians have been anti-Turkey regarding Cyprus (the oil drilling by Israel), and have split with Lebanon over the same issue; this somewhat solidifies Russian ties with Hizbollah (an Iranian proxy, which also relies on Syria), the main strengthening coming from Russia's backing of Syria.

When Assad goes, Russia's out, and has pissed off everyone in the region for either trying to do too much, or for not doing enough. Russia's only remaining ties will be through the various Orthodox churches, which at home undermines the old Soviet atheist-Marxist ruling class; and to Iran, which will realign with India within a decade, with or without the survival of the mullahcracy. And the mullahcracy isn't likely to survive, but even if it does, it will dump the Russians in a heartbeat.
...we are not involved and not going to be involved.
Thanks bert. No direct military involvement -- probably. NATO's involvement could be broad, but it's more likely that, as you said, Turkey and the Arab League (iow, the Gulf States) will be the boots on the ground.
You're kidding, right?
Thanks Sarajevo. The current transformation has had diplomatic consequences that have been far-reaching, but other than Libya, there has been little outside military involvement. And none by the Russians until recently.
13 posted on 11/26/2011 8:49:17 AM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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