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Don't Write Newt Gingrich Off In 2012
FoxNews.com ^ | November 25, 2011 | Douglas E. Schoen

Posted on 11/25/2011 10:42:04 AM PST by presidio9

It remains a foregone conclusion that Mitt Romney is going to be the Republican Presidential nominee. The only problem is, the polls suggest something else, and there is no evidence to suggest any degree of momentum or support rallying the former Massachusetts governor.

What the polls show, increasingly, is that Newt Gingrich is solidifying his position as the anti-Romney, and in the last week, 3 national polls have come out showing that the former Georgia Congressman and Speaker of the House holds a 2-5 point lead in national Republican primary polls.

More specifically though, Gingrich is leading in a couple of Iowa polls, and in at least one New Hampshire poll has polled within a couple of points of Romney.

To be sure, most of the New Hampshire data shows Romney with a substantial lead, but New Hampshire would be the only state where Romney enjoys anything approaching a comfortable margin. And indeed, if the Iowa numbers which show Gingrich in the lead were to hold true on Caucus day, January 3rd, almost certainly it would provide momentum for Gingrich that would make New Hampshire competitive.

The South Carolina surveys show a commanding 14-15 point lead for Gingrich, and Florida is close to a statistical tie between Romney and Gingrich.

Moreover, Gingrich has recently positioned himself as a Tea Party conservative, and hence the alternative to Romney. But also, Gingrich is a fairly original thinker. He is somebody who improbably enough might even be able to get back toward the center on at least some issues in a general election against President Obama.

By speaking about the urgency of immigration reform, Gingrich took a position in the debate Tuesday night which can only benefit him going forward, should he be the nominee, recognizing the absurdity

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To: presidio9
I guess you meant those tests would be for those applying for visas. Now if he meant to apply these tests to illegals, that would be different. Would he check out everyone on Medicare, Medicaid, SSI, etc. to see if they are illegal and deport them? Just how would he track them down? And if he didn't deport every illegal that didn't pass these tests, why in the world would any one apply for a visa, undergo all these tests and/or pay $5000 when nothing is done about those that came illegally?
61 posted on 11/25/2011 1:13:43 PM PST by DejaJude
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To: ez

I don’t vote based on a candidate for his ability to strategize well; I choose the candidate whose values and political views most closely match mine.


62 posted on 11/25/2011 1:22:42 PM PST by Bigg Red (Maryland girl on the Cain Train)
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To: heiss

What is your obsession with Newt’s sex life?


63 posted on 11/25/2011 1:47:30 PM PST by Lou Budvis
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior

And Herman Cain’s public record is.....?


64 posted on 11/25/2011 1:50:42 PM PST by Lou Budvis
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To: jpsb
Newt lost me on illegal immigration. I no longer have a candidate in the race.

Can you tell us what he said that changed your mind? In his debate remarks on 11/22 he advocated:

control the border
guest worker program
review board
deportation in specific cases
very severe penalties for employers

Which of these positions do you consider deal-breaking? If you would like to see a transcript of his complete remarks, it's on my homepage.

65 posted on 11/25/2011 1:53:46 PM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: zeestephen

Gingrich’s position is clearly stated on his website, www.newt.org.

He does not sanction voting rights for illegals, nor any process that would grant them voting rights.

New immigrant citizens are another matter, do you want to end legal immigration?

By the way, Gingrich also has said that schools should teach American history and make students familiar with our founding principles. He wants English to be our official language and he wants newcomers to learn it. If all that went into effect, perhaps newcomers would not vote Democratic in such numbers.

In any event, he is offering solutions.


66 posted on 11/25/2011 1:59:44 PM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: presidio9; writer33; smoothsailing
If anything, Gingrich has modified his policies to put them more in strp with mainstream conservatism since then. Nice try though. The "Alliance For Climate Protection Ad" ran in the spring of 2008. He has since disowned it and called it a "mistake" and called Pelosi "despicable," "dishonest"," "vicious,""trivial," and "a liar."

Gee, most would call that flip-flopping. I think you Newt amnesty deniers need to purchase some Deport cologne for him. It's a fragrance that covers up the amnesty or open borders scent from RINOs.

(Courtesy of writer33 and smoothsailing)

67 posted on 11/25/2011 2:00:17 PM PST by DejaJude
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To: presidio9
Instead of attacking Gingrich, you should be talking up your preferred candidate

I think it is perfectly fine for people to post positive articles on their favorite candidate, but I (like you) am getting sick and tired of these constant spamming and slamming threads.

We get enough of that from left-wing media....we sure as hell don't need it from our "FRiends".

68 posted on 11/25/2011 2:07:07 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: presidio9

Well said!


69 posted on 11/25/2011 2:09:57 PM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: DejaJude

Glad it worked for you.


70 posted on 11/25/2011 2:10:18 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: Hoodat
he was doing the same thing as Clinton at the time

Try to stick to the truth; that wasn't.

71 posted on 11/25/2011 2:15:43 PM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: Bigg Red

I will blame my head cold for the sentence structure garbling in that last comment that I posted.


72 posted on 11/25/2011 2:19:13 PM PST by Bigg Red (Maryland girl on the Cain Train)
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To: Politics4US; presidio9
We don’t want a guest worker plan, and it wouldn’t work.

We have them now. Had one for Mexicans during the Eisenhower years -- you remember Eisenhower, the one who's lionized on FR for that mass deportation known as "Operation Wetback." In the same administration, the guest worker program doubled its numbers to almost half a million. (Search "Bracero Program.") "Wetback" deported about a million. And they did it without computers and biometrics. I think we can match that ratio or better. Why don't you think it would work?

73 posted on 11/25/2011 2:29:14 PM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: ez
"Gingrich was actually getting good press at CNN"

No real surprise. CNN is a big dem/lib network conservatives rarely watch. Though I am surprised that you would imagine that the few democrats who watch their network would be of any help to Newt.

74 posted on 11/25/2011 2:30:17 PM PST by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: DejaJude
Would he check out everyone on Medicare, Medicaid, SSI, etc. to see if they are illegal and deport them? Just how would he track them down?

Cut off the funds with a note saying "You Can Appeal..." giving them an address and a document checklist. I think they will beat a path to the govt office door. Don't you?

75 posted on 11/25/2011 2:33:15 PM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: Lady Lucky
Gingrich’s position is clearly stated on his website, www.newt.org.

I read it.

He does not sanction voting rights for illegals, nor any process that would grant them voting rights.

He doesn't say a thing about how he would deal with those illegals that are voting. His focus is on deporting "dangerous" or "gang" illegals. I consider voter fraud extremely dangerous to this country. There is nothing about deporting illegals draining the treasury by using Medical, Medicaid, SSI, etc.

New immigrant citizens are another matter, do you want to end legal immigration?

Of course not, I'm all for legal immigration.

By the way, Gingrich also has said that schools should teach American history and make students familiar with our founding principles. He wants English to be our official language and he wants newcomers to learn it. If all that went into effect, perhaps newcomers would not vote Democratic in such numbers.

All good ideas.

In any event, he is offering solutions.

His solutions are fairly good for any newcomers, but it's still amnesty for those illegals that are already here.

76 posted on 11/25/2011 2:36:51 PM PST by DejaJude
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To: DejaJude

Not saying, of course, if that govt door would be on American property, or on the Mexican Embassy...


77 posted on 11/25/2011 2:37:02 PM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: Waryone

I think a lot of independents and moderate Republicans watch CNN.


78 posted on 11/25/2011 2:38:06 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: Lady Lucky
Would he check out everyone on Medicare, Medicaid, SSI, etc. to see if they are illegal and deport them? Just how would he track them down?
___________________________________

Cut off the funds with a note saying "You Can Appeal..." giving them an address and a document checklist. I think they will beat a path to the govt office door. Don't you?

You are smart as well as lucky, Lady. (;

79 posted on 11/25/2011 2:38:22 PM PST by .30Carbine
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To: Lou Budvis
He's new to politics, and has no ties to the establishment Republicans. He isn't a career establishment politician, and he's said the right things on the most important issues our nation face. It's something new, and I'm willing to take any risk associated with that over the same old politicians we have been getting pushed on us.

Herman Cain has a staunch Conservative view on issues that have literally been ignored by most politicians for decades, like the problem of illegal immigration which Cain takes serious. He also has an impressive education, and history of turning around a failing business, and making it a success. Does anyone really think Obama wouldn't have bankrupt that company immediately if given the same responsibility?

Herman Cain is a Conservative Republican outsider, and that's what most of the Conservative TEA party wanted in candidates, and now we have one and should capitalize on it by nominating him. At the very least it would send a message to the liberal media, and establishment Republicans that they don't have the power they once had, and their attacks can't stop Conservatives from winning the nomination. Herman Cain is the best choice for the Presidency in 2012 by far, and I hope to GOD he pulls out this primary victory. He's the best candidate on paper I've seen in my lifetime based on his staunch Conservative views, and the fact he isn't controlled by the out of touch establishment. He would be the first candidate since Eisenhower to take illegal immigration serious which has to be done for the survival of our nation.

http://www.hermancain.com/

80 posted on 11/25/2011 2:41:24 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (Support Herman Cain in the Republican Primary! Donate and Campaign for Herman Cain!)
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