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Romney: The Castor-Oil Candidate - Republicans are finding the prospect of nominating Mitt...
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE ^ | November 24, 2011 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 11/25/2011 4:36:12 PM PST by neverdem

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To: rockinqsranch
First time in a long time I’ve seen the Democrat come out in one of VDH’s articles. I noticed also that he has the gall to put Sara Palin in the same one liner with Giuliani as all about the money.

It’s rare, but this one reminds me he is a Democrat.

You're right! Tolik used to have a VDH ping list. I wonder if he would have posted or pinged for this essay. Like I wrote in comment# 1, I wonder if Victor had some holiday cheer before writing this essay.

81 posted on 11/25/2011 8:53:11 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
New Jersey governor Chris Christie and Florida senatoor Marco Rubio were always crowd favorites, and they’re certainly hard-charging conservatives.

That one statement tells me Hanson does not understand what Conservative means, and puts everything else he is trying to sell in the questionable category.
82 posted on 11/25/2011 9:16:09 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Recovering_Democrat
I will be working to defeat Hussein. His agenda is the worst of any candidate.

Equating Hussein with any of the Republican candidates, if that is indeed what your’e doing, is as wrong as equating night and day.


Those are admirable goals, so long as you NEVER vote for the pretend Republican Romney.

Otherwise, if you choose to vote for Romney if by some ill-wind of fate he is the nominee, then you are simply giving the GOP elite what they want, and they will keep on giving it to us forever.

It is far past time to put our foot down as conservatives and say no more!

We will not play their games, we will not be manipulated out of fear, we will demand they give us a conservative POTUS nominee or they lose our vote, period.
83 posted on 11/25/2011 9:20:49 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Recovering_Democrat; Jim Robinson
Then you are no conservative.

It's sad that you scream about the 10th amendment but you don't address Romney absolutely shredding the 2nd amendment, disregarding a child's right to life so far as to use tax money to pay for their murders, and everything else he did to spit on conservatism & the constitution. His record IS as liberal as any run of the mill liberal Democrat's. Whether you want to accept that or not, facts are facts. If I listed all the things on his record and all the positions he supported while hiding his name & party, you'd think you were reading a Democratic candidate's "achievements."

Again, he wasn't shouting "states rights" before he was governor and already held all those liberal positions outside of Massachusetts. He only SAYS he's a conservative now. He says anything he thinks it'll take to get elected. The man is a spineless liar.

He'll be back to being liberal Mitt in the general election because he thinks that can win him some moderate votes, with the assumption that the conservative base will all fall in line & vote for him like lemmings. I guarantee he thinks this will happen. And it won't.

Voting blindly because the person is a Republican in name only is not only moralless, it's also dangerous. A socialist by any other name is still a socialist. RINOs are the enemy from within.

84 posted on 11/25/2011 9:35:19 PM PST by Lady4Liberty (Watch Romney endorse Obama's radical liberal agenda: http://youtu.be/i1fThdWagJ4)
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To: RetiredArmy

Well I don’t think Mitt’s a commie because he’s a raging capitalist but he will be a total do nothing. I’m with you on the thumbs down. Lets just nominate Herman or Newt and get it over with.


85 posted on 11/25/2011 9:40:52 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I really don’t care who it is; I want Obama out. The Republicans are complete sell-outs and everybody knows, but it will take decades to get the converatives in charge. I don’t think America is as conservative as some people let on. Everybody should realize by now that the sad reality is you are not going to see a conservative in the White House more than once every 50 years. America will be 80% brown by 2050. That means a fully Marxist country. I don’t think there is any conceivable way to stop that.


86 posted on 11/26/2011 1:35:40 AM PST by Force of Truth (Intelligence and virtue are preferable in a candidate, but I'd much rather he or she be chinchy.)
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To: Lady4Liberty; Jim Robinson

There was no “screaming” about the tenth amendment. There was a just, proper and fitting appeal to that part of the Constitution.

I also noted there were no perfect candidates in our field, and that all were flawed.

Kind of funny you fancy yourself the arbiter of conservatism. As you’ve apparently been posting here on FR for a whopping six months, maybe it would be good for you to learn the background and history of someone who has been posting here 10 years or more.

Amused, too, that you felt the need to “tattle” on me by sending a copy to Jim. Jim and I have engaged about the race one-on-one in other threads. He seems to have understood I am not promoting anyone, just trying to engage in an understanding of the current contest.

Perhaps you ought to try and understand that, too.


87 posted on 11/26/2011 3:42:19 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Force of Truth

“I don’t think America is as conservative as some people let on”

I’m starting to have doubts myself. Who are the 41% who still think Barry is doing a good job?


88 posted on 11/26/2011 6:19:55 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: neverdem

Many like businessman Herman Cain’s straight-talking pragmatism. Yet more are worried that he might not know that China is a nuclear power, or that we recently joined the British and French in bombing Libya.


VDH thinks the above, and that “any other time” we’d love mitt. Guess he doesn’t have much of an understanding of conservatives today.


89 posted on 11/26/2011 6:25:37 AM PST by Yaelle (Herman Cain: the clever conservative with cojones.)
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To: neverdem

At least with Obama I will (still) have my enemies in front of me. IMO It is these blindside RINO charges that come form behind that are really killer.


90 posted on 11/26/2011 6:29:27 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Carter, inept and feckless, at least loved this country...

That is an assumption I don't consider necessarily valid. Think back on many of the things that occurred in the Carter Administration, and you'll get a chillingly different picture. That ineptness and fecklessness you describe may well have been an act to conceal deeper, darker motives, some of which have surfaced since...

the infowarrior

91 posted on 11/26/2011 7:26:01 AM PST by infowarrior
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To: charleywhiskey
So, what do you kids want, a Mormon or a Muslim?

Neither. Despite what the MSM and National Review would like us to think, you know that is still an option, right? The first vote of the primary season hasn't even been cast yet.

92 posted on 11/26/2011 7:32:37 AM PST by CommerceComet (Governor Romney, why would any conservative vote for the author of the beta version of ObamaCare?)
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To: Theodore R.

“It’s nice that you won’t participate in nominating Mittens, but hundreds of thousands in early primary states will, and that seals the deal for us in despair.”

Their vote. They can use it as they wish - even foolishly, voting for Willard the rat.
I make a different choice.


93 posted on 11/26/2011 7:36:16 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: Farmer Dean
Romney's more like the Syrup of Ipecac candidate to me.

Running Romney as a candidate would make the election like playing strip poker with Helen Thomas.

94 posted on 11/26/2011 7:47:20 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Oldexpat

I think Victor short changed Newt . As does some pollsters who today are surprised that Newt’s immigration kerfuffle did not undo him.In Fla.he had a packed house and applause as he denied the dreaded Amnesty word. I suggest that we wait till the dust settles a bit before just crowning Mitt in a fit of pique. Oh and BTW, Mitt is not perfect but sure better than Obama any day.


95 posted on 11/26/2011 11:39:32 AM PST by phillyfanatic
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To: Recovering_Democrat

That’s nice. I don’t engage with RINOs. Have a nice day.


96 posted on 11/26/2011 11:48:27 AM PST by Lady4Liberty (Watch Romney endorse Obama's radical liberal agenda: http://youtu.be/i1fThdWagJ4)
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To: infowarrior

I think Carter changed once he was out of office. The rejection was too much to bear, and he went overboard. Same with Gore. Both weren’t fit for the office, but they weren’t sinister....just wrong.

Carter served in the Navy, I think, admirably. And he had enough experience, unlike Hussein, to serve as a legislator and governor before leaping to the White House. But as a true outsider, he couldn’t even persuade his own PARTY to follow him. They recognized he wasn’t fit for the job almost instantly.

Gore was raised by his father for national office. I think he has issues with that part of his life. Liberals always said it was Dubya who was trying to prove something to his dad. I think it was Al. And look at what has happened to him since—lost his marriage, allegedly gone loco with massage geishas, and foisted unbelievable lies on the planet about global warming.


97 posted on 11/26/2011 12:32:12 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: neverdem

Romney will be Ricin for the GOP............................


98 posted on 11/26/2011 8:33:10 PM PST by Osage Orange (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
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To: Lady Lucky
Lot's more you could have said........

But darn good post!

99 posted on 11/26/2011 8:37:43 PM PST by Osage Orange (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Carter served in the Navy, I think, admirably.

He didn't just "serve in the Navy". He was one of Admiral Hyman Rickover's "nuclear whiz kids". This is the primary reason the idea that Carter was either feckless, or inept doesn't wash. You didn't become a nuclear officer in the US Navy demonstrating either of those things as a character trait, and Rickover was always monitoring his "boys".

Since he was neither feckless, nor inept, how does one explain the actions he took when he occupied the Oval Office to his country's detriment, time, and time again. I have long been of the opinion that J. E. Carter held some pretty dark secrets, and once he became older, his mask slipped several times, allowing us to see him as he really is. In truth, when he was running for President, the refrain was "Jimmy, we hardly know ye". Very telling, and true, even to this day...

the infowarrior

100 posted on 11/28/2011 8:43:47 AM PST by infowarrior
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