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Secret Bill To Be Voted On Today Would Allow MilitaryTo Sweep Up US Citizens At Home Or Abroad
Business Insider ^ | November 28, 2011 | Robert Johnson

Posted on 11/28/2011 12:08:43 PM PST by opentalk

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To: KrisKrinkle

The language used applying to U.S. citizens and legal resident aliens is only referring to SEC. 1032. REQUIREMENT FOR MILITARY CUSTODY.

Nothing is stated exempting U.S. citizens from detainment in SEC. 1031. AFFIRMATION OF AUTHORITY OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES TO DETAIN COVERED PERSONS PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE

In addition the language used for U.S. citizens and legal resident aliens under SEC. 1032 says: “...THE REQUIREMENT TO DETAIN...” Meaning they may if they choose to, just not required.

Where is the clear language that U.S. citizens are exempt from being policed by the U.S. Military?


41 posted on 11/28/2011 2:18:33 PM PST by TheBigJ
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To: TheBigJ
See post #40 regarding the debate of the bill

...But why did we take out the language Senator Levin wanted me to put in about an American citizen could not be held indefinitely if caught in the homeland? The administration asked us to do that.

42 posted on 11/28/2011 2:23:06 PM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Thanks for posting. This is big.


43 posted on 11/28/2011 2:39:17 PM PST by TheBigJ
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To: choctaw man
McCain's , McCain-Feingold act, benefited Soros and his progressive network of 527 organizations, pushing and funding Anti-American agenda.

When there was a push back to Obama's Libyan war, by-passing Congress, McCain with Kerry went on the news circuit to sell it.

44 posted on 11/28/2011 2:52:57 PM PST by opentalk
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To: 556x45
Legal is what the powers that be say is legal. Illegal is wha they say is illegal.

They may not can just nullify Constitutional gurantees just by passing a bill, but they are doing a damn good job of it.

Don't belive it? Walk down a street in New York City. Boston, MA carrying a rifle or have a pistol strapped around your waste. The Second Amendment to the Constitution reads,"....The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" If you get a chance before they fill you full of lead, try reciting that to the cops and watch their response. Or, if you are not a part of the occupy crowd, get a group together and say that you are going to assemble and camp out in a city park, a/l/a the occupy crowd. See how far that gets you, probably to the city or county jail. On the other hand, the occupy crowdd does as they please without any interferrence from the police. Why? The occupy crowd are a protected arm of obama and the Democrat Party and the city authorties are under orders from washing D.C. to not only interfere with them, but, prevent anyone else from interrfering with them.

45 posted on 11/28/2011 3:17:20 PM PST by sport
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To: ConjunctionJunction

A social security number was never to be used as identifiacation either.


46 posted on 11/28/2011 3:26:30 PM PST by sport
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To: sport

Sliding down the slippery slope...


47 posted on 11/28/2011 4:34:36 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ConjunctionJunction

I agree.


48 posted on 11/28/2011 4:41:57 PM PST by sport
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To: opentalk

Obama’s National Civilian Security Force.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s&feature=related


49 posted on 11/28/2011 6:33:28 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: opentalk; All

I’m stunned ..!!!

I remember the dems having fits over the Patriot Act .. and this sounds to me like it’s much, much worse than that.

This is very scary stuff.

Does anybody have a clue what they’re really planning to do with this “law”.


50 posted on 11/28/2011 7:26:57 PM PST by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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To: Lionheartusa1

Coma Tata = comitatus?


51 posted on 11/28/2011 8:07:08 PM PST by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the party of Amnesty, Abortion, and Adolescence)
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To: 556x45
Its difficult to see how any of this could be legal in regard to US citizens. You cant just nullify Constitutional guarantees by passing a bill. The basis of our legal system is mandating due process and making public charges.

LOL - you agreed to it. At least, it's legal for the government to presume you agreed to it, and then act on your agreement to enforce it against you. Oh, and then they don't have to tell you that this is what they presumed against you. And court? If you step into a Federal court you are also presumed to agreeing to its administrative jurisdiction, under which it can presume you agreed to anything the government does. And no, it doesn't have to admit these presumptions to you, according to its own rules.

It's a big bad world out there, grasshopper.

52 posted on 11/28/2011 8:16:15 PM PST by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: opentalk

Lindsey Graham is THE PROBLEM, however the bill does not read the way he’s talking. AIDS?


53 posted on 11/29/2011 12:45:02 AM PST by Lazamataz (For the balance of the day, I will reply to a thread on another thread.)
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To: opentalk

Snopes forum: http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?p=1562515

Snopes site: http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/ndaa.asp

Here is the bill: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:S.1867:


54 posted on 11/29/2011 1:14:42 AM PST by KarenMarie (NEVER believe anything coming out of DC until it's been denied.)
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To: KarenMarie

Okay, this has convinced me. This thing is a problem.


55 posted on 11/29/2011 2:33:17 AM PST by Lazamataz (For the balance of the day, I will reply to a thread on another thread.)
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To: bt_dooftlook
Thanks ,,,, not sure about the spelling but definitely sure about it's legal definition .
56 posted on 11/29/2011 4:26:42 AM PST by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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