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Former Business Partner: Ginger White Never Mentioned Herman Cain
ABC News ^ | 112911 | LAURA REDDY

Posted on 11/29/2011 1:35:58 PM PST by Fred

The female bodybuilder who once ran a bicycle business with latest Herman Cain accuser Ginger White says the Atlanta woman never mentioned the Republican presidential candidate, who she says was her lover for 13 years.

"His name has never come up," said Kimberly Vay, who told ABC News that she and White were former business partners.

But Vay, who filed and won a libel lawsuit against White, refused to comment directly when asked whether she considers White's accusations about Cain credible. "When you see the details of my lawsuit," said Vay, "they will speak for themselves." She then referred ABC News to her attorney.

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KEYWORDS: cain; falsewitness; gingerwhite; hermancain; hightechlynching; mudslinging; smears; threat
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1 posted on 11/29/2011 1:36:10 PM PST by Fred
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To: Fred

I don’t believe she had an affair with Cain.


2 posted on 11/29/2011 1:38:10 PM PST by Politics4US
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To: Fred

So many flakes out there, this is starting to turn into a snowstorm....


3 posted on 11/29/2011 1:38:44 PM PST by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: Fred

Anyone else getting the feeling they want Cain damaged but not out of the race? If Cain was still the frontrunner, does anyone really think this would see the light of day?


4 posted on 11/29/2011 1:38:56 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: Fred

I will say this about Cain. He sure attracts the morally challenged to him. Every one of these accusers have had long lists of sordid things they’ve been involved in that shoot their credibility down to sub zero.

And of course, the media that wouldn’t believe a thing about Clinton, buys off on everything that drips from these skanks lips.


5 posted on 11/29/2011 1:39:25 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Romney, Newt, any chance whatsoever you might sometime pander to U.S. Citizens vs the illegals?)
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To: Politics4US

The Left is doing it’s usual like they did with Bush, Thomas and Palin.


6 posted on 11/29/2011 1:40:21 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Politics4US

You gotta see the Pythons on this woman. Puts me to shame.


7 posted on 11/29/2011 1:40:31 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Politics4US

I think she desperately wants an affair with someone, anyone’s bank account.


8 posted on 11/29/2011 1:40:36 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Romney, Newt, any chance whatsoever you might sometime pander to U.S. Citizens vs the illegals?)
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To: BenKenobi; Fred

She had his private number. He answered when the Fox5 news reporter called.

Herman Cain is appearing with Neil Cavuto tomorrow to talk about moving forward and to answer all questions.

Everything else in the interim is white noise.


9 posted on 11/29/2011 1:41:04 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: icwhatudo

rumor has it get Cain on the GOP plantation with a few lashes then VP to rope in all those wacky anti- amnesty anti mandate foke...


10 posted on 11/29/2011 1:41:17 PM PST by Fred ("The terrorists' want to kill us, so we need to kill them first!" http://hermancain.com)
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To: Fred

Let’s go Ginger White. I’m still waiting to see the emails, texts, letters, notes, receipts, and anything else that comes along with a 13 YEAR AFFAIR.

I especially want to hear how he carried on this affair during his year of battling stage 4 cancer with Gloria by his side every step of the way.

Give me a freaking break.


11 posted on 11/29/2011 1:42:05 PM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: Fred

This can’t be true! Herman Cain is a serial womanizer — the leftist media and Newt/Perry supporters said so!


12 posted on 11/29/2011 1:42:17 PM PST by South40 (Just say NO to pro-ILLEGAL alien RINOS!)
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To: onyx

you are white noise.


13 posted on 11/29/2011 1:42:17 PM PST by Fred ("The terrorists' want to kill us, so we need to kill them first!" http://hermancain.com)
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To: DoughtyOne

I’d rather say that the Democrats found morally challenged people who had worked for NRA or otherwise knew Cain and that they then threw them at him.

I will bet that the real associates of Herman Cain were not scumbags and that is why none of them were used by the Democrats.


14 posted on 11/29/2011 1:42:27 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: Fred
On December 9, according to the complaint, White sent a "defamatory" note to a master email list of the company's clients and to city officials. The email said that White's business had "come tumbling down [on] the day I invited Kim Vay into my life and my business" and that Vay had turned her "dream" into a "nightmare."According to the complaint, the email alleged that Vay, a competitive bodybuilder, injected veterinary drugs into her system prior to contests," and also said that Vay preferred to date black men but had made derogatory comments about black women's hair.

Wha...huh?
15 posted on 11/29/2011 1:43:27 PM PST by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: Fred

My experience is business partner divorces can be as brutal as spousal divorces. I would not go to this woman for unbiased information about White.


16 posted on 11/29/2011 1:43:27 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Politics4US

The truth doesn’t matter.

The Dems will pull out another former Chicago NRA employee blondie to say that she had a relationship with Cain.


17 posted on 11/29/2011 1:44:34 PM PST by Jonty30 (If a person won't learn under the best of times, than he must learn under the worst of times.)
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To: onyx

I have had plenty of private phone numbers. I wasn’t having an affair with any of their owners.


18 posted on 11/29/2011 1:45:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Romney, Newt, any chance whatsoever you might sometime pander to U.S. Citizens vs the illegals?)
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To: Fred
you are white noise.

LOLOLOL.

19 posted on 11/29/2011 1:45:33 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: colorado tanker

I would not go to Ginger White for unbiased information about Herman Cain.


20 posted on 11/29/2011 1:45:55 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: justsaynomore

The bizarre part is women who claim a relationship, didnt want to go public, but somehow they are being interviewed on camera.

And one of this one’s reasons was she didnt like how Cain treated his other women accusers?? Does not compute.


21 posted on 11/29/2011 1:46:42 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: onyx

So? He has admitted to knowing her, in fact she is a friend of Cain AND Gloria.

From Lolly Winne, a well-known Cain volunteer:

“I was on a conference call at 11:15am this morning with Herman Cain himself, where he explained to us that, once again, the accusations against him are COMPLETELY FALSE. He ALSO explained that he is NOT considering dropping out of the campaign, despite what the media is reporting. The campaign is moving forward as planned. Additionally, he shared that Ginger White WAS a friend of his (and his wife’s) and she was a struggling unemployed single mom who received several eviction notices due to being unable to pay her rent. So being the good man that he is, Mr. Cain helped her out financially as a FRIEND, as he has done for other friends in the past.”

When asked what the reassessment was about - Winne replied, “I was on the call, I did not hear the words “REASSESS THE CAMPAIGN”, I heard, ‘we need to assess the situation (the damage) over the next couple of days and continue to MOVE FORWARD.’ He said NOTHING about considering to drop out. He didn’t even INSINUATE it.”

https://www.facebook.com/lollywinne


22 posted on 11/29/2011 1:47:14 PM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: colorado tanker

Bad news for ya _ VAY WON THE LAWSUIT, AND WHITE SAID IT WAS ALL TRUE GOT IT ON VIDEO


23 posted on 11/29/2011 1:47:23 PM PST by Fred ("The terrorists' want to kill us, so we need to kill them first!" http://hermancain.com)
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To: DoughtyOne

All of us do, but not the private numbers of presidential candidates.


24 posted on 11/29/2011 1:47:51 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Williams

Mr. Cain is at Hillsdale College tonight. Nasty weather in southern Michigan. Uggh.


25 posted on 11/29/2011 1:48:56 PM PST by healy61
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To: DoughtyOne
I think she desperately needs an affair with someone, anyone’s bank account.
26 posted on 11/29/2011 1:49:09 PM PST by South40 (Just say NO to pro-ILLEGAL alien RINOS!)
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To: Fred

Ah the pain of unrequited love!

I could buy that Ginger had a crush on Cain and that Cain, because he’s only a man, was oblivious.


27 posted on 11/29/2011 1:49:18 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Fred

“She then referred ABC News to her attorney.”

Gloria? Is that you?

What a rat’s nest.


28 posted on 11/29/2011 1:49:55 PM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: Fred

I sent a link this same story to someone just in a PM - I think her omisssion of ever mentioning Cain to another woman is strange, they talk about men all the time when they’re with each other, but this part threw me:


According to the complaint, the email alleged that Vay, a competitive bodybuilder, injected veterinary drugs into her system prior to contests,” and also said that Vay preferred to date black men but had made derogatory comments about black women’s hair.


???


29 posted on 11/29/2011 1:49:59 PM PST by Baladas
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To: colorado tanker
That's true, but this does make things more than a little dicey for the woman making the claims.

"But Vay, who filed and won a libel lawsuit against White, refused to comment directly when asked whether she considers White's accusations about Cain credible."

Winning a libel lawsuit isn't that easy. It sure undermines White's claims IMO. Saying that her charges are highly suspect is an understatement at this point.

30 posted on 11/29/2011 1:50:07 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Romney, Newt, any chance whatsoever you might sometime pander to U.S. Citizens vs the illegals?)
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To: justsaynomore

BTTT


31 posted on 11/29/2011 1:50:29 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: DoughtyOne

WHITE SAID IT IS ALL TRUE IN HER INTERVIEW..


32 posted on 11/29/2011 1:51:49 PM PST by Fred ("The terrorists' want to kill us, so we need to kill them first!" http://hermancain.com)
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To: Fred

Didn’t Cain work for a breakfast cereal company? He was certainly surrounded by Flakes and Nuts.


33 posted on 11/29/2011 1:52:14 PM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: Jonty30

Republicans are helping them by not defending Cain.


34 posted on 11/29/2011 1:53:51 PM PST by Politics4US
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To: Williams
she didnt like how Cain treated his other women accusers?? Does not compute.

Agree. Does not compute.

35 posted on 11/29/2011 1:55:07 PM PST by NautiNurse (Zot! Cut! Slash! --That's the sound of the men workin' on the Cain gang)
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To: DoughtyOne
I have had plenty of private phone numbers.

I currently have the private phone numbers of several elected officials in my county and municipal government. I have them because I have worked closely with these people on a number of issues. I speak with these people often and at all hours of day and night. While these calls have all been purely business I could see how with my help the leftist media could be led to believe otherwise.

36 posted on 11/29/2011 1:55:23 PM PST by South40 (Just say NO to pro-ILLEGAL alien RINOS!)
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To: onyx

Onyx, she had an old private number he has had for some time. I’ve had one number for about thirty-six years.

My current cell phone number changed about four years ago because I have an iPhone now, but prior to that I had a number that hadn’t changed for about 16 years.

I have had access to the phone numbers of well know actors and actresses. I have had the phone numbers of well known business people and high profile local television players.

At one point I had the private number of a presidential candidate.

I hadn’t had sexual relations with any of them.


37 posted on 11/29/2011 1:56:33 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Romney, Newt, any chance whatsoever you might sometime pander to U.S. Citizens vs the illegals?)
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To: Jonty30

Jonty30: The truth doesn’t matter.

It’s not the truth of the accusations that matters; it is the SERIOUSNESS of the CHARGES.

/DNC-journ0lister


38 posted on 11/29/2011 1:57:04 PM PST by Peet (Cogito ergo dubito.)
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To: Fred

Geez, she didn’t even come out with Gloria Allred. How can you believe a broad like that?


39 posted on 11/29/2011 1:58:18 PM PST by umgud
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To: onyx
Yes, but how come I don't have your phone number?

*Ponders being strangled by a certain HD if you did*

:-)

40 posted on 11/29/2011 1:58:47 PM PST by Lakeshark
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To: onyx
She had his private number. He answered when the Fox5 news reporter called.

At a morning conference call, Cain shared that Ginger White was a friend of his (and his wife’s) and she was a struggling unemployed single mom who received several eviction notices due to being unable to pay her rent.

So being the good man that he is, Mr. Cain helped her out financially as a friend, as he has done for other friends in the past.”

41 posted on 11/29/2011 1:59:07 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: DoughtyOne; Fred
From what I read she won the lawsuit by default. White's lawyer said she didn't know about it and thought matters with Vay were settled.

Right now, with Cain "reassessing" I wouldn't be so sure any of us know the truth about the White allegations.

42 posted on 11/29/2011 1:59:23 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: South40

Yes, chances are good you’re right on track there.


43 posted on 11/29/2011 1:59:38 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Romney, Newt, any chance whatsoever you might sometime pander to U.S. Citizens vs the illegals?)
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To: Mr. K

News from 1954. White in Georgia accuses black of owning private phone.


44 posted on 11/29/2011 2:00:08 PM PST by dblshot (Insanity: electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: Fred

Oh, well then...


45 posted on 11/29/2011 2:00:22 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Romney, Newt, any chance whatsoever you might sometime pander to U.S. Citizens vs the illegals?)
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To: South40

Exactly. It’s kind of funny how some on our side buy into this stuff without a critical view.


46 posted on 11/29/2011 2:01:46 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Romney, Newt, any chance whatsoever you might sometime pander to U.S. Citizens vs the illegals?)
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To: Fred
But Vay, who filed and won a libel lawsuit against White, refused to comment directly when asked whether she considers White's accusations about Cain credible. "When you see the details of my lawsuit," said Vay, "they will speak for themselves." She then referred ABC News to her attorney.

This woman won a libel law suit against Cain's accuser. This means the woman accusing Cain has been determined by a court to be a liar and a slanderer. 'Nuf said. Vay is not outright calling White a liar because she knows darn well personal attacks have legal implications.
47 posted on 11/29/2011 2:02:32 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: massgopguy
You gotta see the Pythons on this woman. Puts me to shame.
O' Vay!
48 posted on 11/29/2011 2:03:44 PM PST by dblshot (Insanity: electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: onyx
Everything else in the interim is white noise.

And that *white noise* is herding the sheeple in exactly the direction Rats, MSM and Rinos want them to go.

What the truth is, I have no idea, but sheeple are being herded.

Starting to get disgusted with the whole dang shebang.

49 posted on 11/29/2011 2:04:42 PM PST by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: DoughtyOne

For me, her story stinks because she did not first call her good friend, Herman Cain, when she “allegedly heard” that tipsters were going to break the story.

Instead, she permitted the Fox5 reporter to call Herman Cain and he answered.

That’s what I would call a STING.


50 posted on 11/29/2011 2:05:38 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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