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To: sunmars

What does surprise me is that everyone who is dropping their support for Cain for his possible affair is moving to Newt who definitely had one.


2 posted on 12/02/2011 11:37:32 AM PST by TennesseeProfessor
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To: TennesseeProfessor

Indeed.


4 posted on 12/02/2011 11:39:10 AM PST by left that other site (Psalm 122:6)
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To: TennesseeProfessor

Perhaps it’s not the affair, but how this whole thing has been handled. If all of this is true, he really should have manned-up.


7 posted on 12/02/2011 11:41:46 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: TennesseeProfessor
What does surprise me is that everyone who is dropping their support for Cain for his possible affair is moving to Newt who definitely had one.

As someone on the other thread said, in 17 years when Cain has got it all back together then maybe he can rise in the polls again like Gingrich.

8 posted on 12/02/2011 11:42:26 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: TennesseeProfessor

And how many of them were willing to hold their nose last time and vote for McCain, who also had one. These reeks to high heaven of the GOP establishment’s effort putting in McCain last time. They want one of their own and see Cain as a real threat.


10 posted on 12/02/2011 11:43:12 AM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: TennesseeProfessor

Some animals are more equal than others.

I think he will drop out because he can no longer campaign around all of this.

Great guy and I will miss him in the campaign if he drops out.

He beats Newt and Romney.


11 posted on 12/02/2011 11:45:20 AM PST by dforest
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To: TennesseeProfessor

What does surprise me is that everyone who is dropping their support for Cain for his possible affair is moving to Newt who definitely had one.


Not me.

But seriously! Every candidate (except mitt) has cheated. Newt, and Obama, allegedly. Who cares at this point? If we are going to have a cheater in the White House, let’s let it be a conservative!

I hope he stays in. If he doesn’t I hope he rips the biased MSM a new one!


15 posted on 12/02/2011 11:48:46 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: TennesseeProfessor

I can't imagine Cain bowing out. That would make no sense to me. I suspect it will be "for once and all" affirmation that he has fully reloaded. But if he does bow out, I still have Bachmann and Santorum whom I trust to be my genuine representative. Even Paul is willing to represent me -- he just doesn't pull it off as well. What I won't do is transfer my support to any candidate that is not a Tea Party advocate.


17 posted on 12/02/2011 11:50:00 AM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: TennesseeProfessor

As someone who likes Cain and Newt still - I think you are missing the point.
Heres’ how I see it:

A: It’s how Cain has handled it, more than the affair or NON affair, that is bothering some folks.

B: If Newt ends up ending a 13 year affair in the next few weeks, people will leave him too.

C: Newt is running as a guy with many problems but who has battled through them. Cain was running - more or less - as a pristine non politician. Fair or not, when that happens, you don’t have the armor against battles like this as you do as a long time battlewagon type candidate.

Methinks you are finding hypocrisy where it does not exist. Like I said, I’d vote for either of them in a skinny minute.


20 posted on 12/02/2011 11:51:38 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: TennesseeProfessor

It’s not just the affair(s) — it’s the dissembling, the exhibition of poor judgment, and the totally inept management of the issue that leave me cold.


21 posted on 12/02/2011 11:52:01 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: TennesseeProfessor

>>What does surprise me is that everyone who is dropping their support for Cain for his possible affair is moving to Newt who definitely had one.

That is pretty funny actually - I guess its the devil that you know, versus the devil that you don’t. Seems all the news is out on Newt, but Cain keeps having bimbo explosions and no one knows if they are true, if there will be more, and he has shown a stunning lack of ability to manage the problems.

Newt, with all his bumps and warts has been fairly well vetted at this point - but even if new revelations occur, unless they are showstoppers, he will likely not be so amateurish in his response.


22 posted on 12/02/2011 11:53:08 AM PST by qwerty1234
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To: TennesseeProfessor

I don’t think it has much to do with a Cain affair(s). Rather, I think those of us who have supported Cain have been appalled at the way he and his staff have handled or responded to the allegations.

We know what Newt’s past has looked like and we can’t be sure that Cain’s past is as unblemished as we had hoped.
In other words, are there more revelations to come? And, Herman, did you dupe me and my wallet? I want to know.

We know that Newt is deeply immersed in history and very knowledgeable. He can certainly debate and does not fear the media’s bias. Those qualities alone are probably attracting a fair amount of support not just from former Cain supporters but from a wider range of voters as well.


36 posted on 12/02/2011 12:02:46 PM PST by CARTOUCHE ( Civil War, the sequel, may be coming to a city near you. Watch for previews 11/2012)
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But unlike Cain, Newts dirty laundry is all OLD news and everybody already knows. Guess what? Nobody cares. When push comes to shove, even the evangelicals will forgive him because he did seek out God and has led a reformed life for the last 15 years. Can't say that about anybody on the opposite side. That's what will bring us together and what will bring Obama down. That's how Newt can run up these spectacular numbers with a puny staff and paltry funds. Everybody knows the score. All the Newt bashers on FR should recognize that and just get with the program now or you'll simply be helping the other side give Obama another term. That's the threat. Disaffected "conservatives" like that loon Ron Paul and his followers who will cry and scream and pout and he'll run third party and THAT will be our downfall.
42 posted on 12/02/2011 12:06:35 PM PST by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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I actually don't care much about Cain's sex life,or anyone else's for that matter. I can get past that,if the person who wants to lead my country cares about the job,wants to keep us free,prosperous and safe,and respects the Constitution.
What turned me off from him was the way he and his campaign people handled it.This has less to do with the "elites",the "MSM" or any of that,and more to do with how Cain conducted himself in the days following the revelation.
First,he comes out with a two-minute denial.Then,the revelation of the pages of late-night texts and phone calls.
How does he respond? Well,okay,yes,he KNEW her during that time,but he was helping a friend.
Then,more interviewing of the accuser,and Cain comes out swinging with....well,okay,so I KNEW her,and I helped her,but my wife didn't know about it for 13 years,and my wife believed the explanation I gave her.
WHAT?

His response to the entire fiasco has been wishy-washy,poorly executed and woefully inadequate.
Cain ruined himself-with a little help from the media.
Now,you can flame at will,say i'm a (insert candidate's name here)bot,whatever. But it is what it is.Cain screwed the pooch on this one.
43 posted on 12/02/2011 12:06:35 PM PST by gimme1ibertee ("Criticism......brings attention to an unhealthy state of things"-Winston Churchill)
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To: TennesseeProfessor

Newt had more than one. One of them lasted years and was in-your-face, he attended church with his mistress.

The man has always been unreliable in every facet


48 posted on 12/02/2011 12:10:55 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: TennesseeProfessor
It's the way Cain handled it, as well as the way he denied any and all of it, then we later find out that there was more truth to it than he would admit.

Newt's past was over 20 years ago, he admits he was wrong, asked forgiveness, but more importantly, he openly admitted to what he had done and regretted it and took responsibility for it.

Cain made excuses and tried to shift all blame at the media. There is no tolerance or excuse for his lack of integrity.

54 posted on 12/02/2011 12:20:20 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: TennesseeProfessor
What does surprise me is that everyone who is dropping their support for Cain for his possible affair is moving to Newt who definitely had one.

if i end up moving to newt, it won't be over the affair, it'll be because Cain blew it and newt ends up being the only viable non-romney.
58 posted on 12/02/2011 12:21:49 PM PST by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: TennesseeProfessor

Yep. Very odd isn’t it.


69 posted on 12/02/2011 12:31:53 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: TennesseeProfessor
What does surprise me is that everyone who is dropping their support for Cain for his possible affair is moving to Newt who definitely had one.

That is really an excellent, salient point.

If the Sanctity of Marriage is your issue, Newt is not your guy.

126 posted on 12/02/2011 1:33:31 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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I guess that Newt is preferred to Cain because he had the good sense to stay out of the political spotlight until his history was history, and not last summer’s secret. If even half of the Cain allegations are true then one would have to question his good judgement and the size of his ego to think he would not be outed. Also, Newt would probably have knocked a Libya question out of the park. Is Cain’s knowledge of history so weak that he has no memory of all the other sex based political problems, especially for those who profess superior religious/moral standards and then are found wanting?


130 posted on 12/02/2011 1:36:51 PM PST by gleeaikin
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Boggles the mind doesn’t it?

Maybe he isn’t dropping out at all, but the mere suggestion will get him major media coverage?


148 posted on 12/02/2011 2:35:45 PM PST by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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