Posted on 12/03/2011 7:53:19 AM PST by Controlling Legal Authority
Rather than squabbling over the merits of studying cold fusion or jumping to the conclusion that excess heat produced at room temperature is a nuclear reaction, the scientific community needs to back up all the way to the top of the scientific method.
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In the end this guy just wants more money from the .gov(taxpayers) to fund his lifestyle.
Roger that. But it is academia that provide secure, staged, and scripted safehavens for the one to tell the world of what it needs. Academic Croneyism.
Basic research is a legitimate role for government. Solyndra-like central planning and investment in firms is not a legitimate role. Mizzou Vice Chancellor Rob Duncan is correct when he says it is long past time to conduct the basic research into these low-level exothermic processes. It’s been 32 years since Pons & Fleischmann published their results and we still don’t know much about the processes at work.
Um.... no it's not.
Unless I missed that in the enumerated powers.
We get to heart of it, trolling for government money.
Duncan is proposing the federal government offer a competitive grant that would let university researchers more thoroughly study excess heat phenomena. MU likely would vie for such funding, but there are professors at several major research universities interested in the field.
Without a nationally funded program, youre going to be limited by the scope of what you can do, he said.
***Scientists first approach a subject matter by asking for money from the guvmint.
The Cold Fusion Ping List
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/coldfusion/index?tab=articles
Cold fusion has NEVER been a scam, though it has been sold as such by the "hot fusion physicists". In fact, MIT actually committed fraud in their "experiments" that supposedly proved it didn't exist. But they succeeded, and CF has been considered "fringe science" ever since, despite the fact that a large number of very reputable researchers have done SUCCESSFUL work on it. Unfortunately, due to the underground campaign by the "hot physics" types, the only folks who "can" work on it are those who have independent funding (i.e. emeritus professors tapping small university grants that the "prestige committees" can't control).
Other than "private sector funding", the above is the only type research that has not been stifled, other than a couple of VERY small efforts funded by the Navy.
Oh, and this is not "just" cold fusion that has been so treated....other approaches to "hot fusion" than the tokamak have been treated the same way (see "Bussard Polywell" for a VERY promising approach).
You can find the entire saga of cold fusion (including PEER-REVIEWED papers) at LENR-CANR.ORG
No. The sole legitimate function of government is to protect the rights of citizens. When you take a personal agenda like you've just stated above, and coercively force other people to fund it via taxation, you have turned government into an oppressor.
Cold fusion has been a scam since the 70s that I know of and maybe longer.
***That’s a neat trick, since cold fusion wasn’t even reported until 1989 by Pons & Fleischmann.
Dear assorted PhD, Professors and Master’s Candidates’
As a taxpayer, I am paying for your salaries - for you to conduct your job. Now, as we are all aware, the life of an academic is to “Publish or die”. Might I suggest that for your own survival, you consider doing reasearch on Cold Fusion using the funds that have so graciously been given to you over the decades, by taxpayers, existing research grants from various gov’t agencies, grants from corporations, and from the various Alma Matter groups that you beg money from every year.
To the best of my knowledge, no other industry has managed to raise their cost structures that in any way can compare to what “Higher Education” has done with tuition. It seems that this money is being wasted. How about managing the money you are currently receiving, responsibly and maturely? Sure, someone in your academic ranks can perform the task that any Dairy Queen Franchise owner has been able to perform for decades. If not, perhaps you should surrender your position to someone who is competitent to handle these matters.
This should be something that the academic community should be rushing to embrace, instead of something that your community is demanding money to investigate.
But what do I know, I’m just a fool who pays your salary.
This should be something that the academic community should be rushing to embrace, instead of something that your community is demanding money to investigate.
***Good point. The problem is that politics drives the money and resources. Of course, the process generates lemmings. When the black swan event happens, they all line up afterwards and say that it was obvious all along and they fully supported it. Yeah, right.
Billions were spent on that, and the follow up with magnetic confinement devices of all sorts.
So, where is all this money you think has been spent on "cold fusion"? My understanding is that virtually all of the development has been with private funds, but if you know otherwise let's see your numbers.
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