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Herman Cain drops out of presidential race
LA times ^ | 3 Dec 2011

Posted on 12/03/2011 11:02:40 AM PST by mandaladon

Herman Cain, the insurgent populist whose candidacy has been ensnared by allegations of sexual impropriety, said Saturday that he is leaving the race for the Republican presidential nomination, saying that the allegations have cast a "cloud of doubt over me and this campaign."

"As of today, with a lot of prayer and soul searching, I am suspending my presidential campaign," he said at an event in Atlanta. "I am suspending my presidential campaign because of the continued distraction, the continued hurt . . . on me, on my family, not because we are not fighters, not because I am not a fighter."

Cain's campaign had sent mixed signals as to his future since Ginger White, an Atlanta woman who claims to have had an affair with Cain for more than a decade, went public with her story earlier this week. While Cain has said he has been "reassessing" his candidacy, he also, at times, has been fiercely defiant, suggesting that unnamed enemies have been trying to do him in and vowing to press forward.

"The pundits would like for me to shut up, drop out and go away," he said. "I am not going to be silenced, and I am not going away."

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To: Catsrus
So, we hang a guy out to dry because he didn’t tell his wife? While I don’t agree with him doing that - possibly there are other reasons he didn’t. None of us know for sure, do we? NO we don’t. That proves absolutely nothing - as I said - only that he gave her money. That isn’t proof of jack crap!

Especially when you remember the context - Cain is a self-made millionaire. So giving a friend money going through hard times can actually not even be a blip on the discussion radar. If a normally financed person gave someone $100, he might not say anything. Cain lent his own campaign $675,000 and never endangered or stressed his own wealth. So he could give someone in need ten grand and not think it a big thing, while it would be a huge issue for someone else.

Even more, how many companies pay demands when they can win in court, so that they don't have to pay even more in attorneys fees, court costs and bad press? This goes on all the time. Maybe Cain evaluated this woman as a whack job, and paid her to get lost, and didn't tell his wife precisely because it would unneccessarily upset her. There are many conceivable such scenarios. But the media and public always want the worst.

501 posted on 12/03/2011 8:01:58 PM PST by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: tsowellfan
He'd lose a debate with Newt even if the unemployment rate was at 6%
I'm still not sure of Newt at this time, BUT, to his credit, in a 1 on 1 debate with 0bummer, he could whip 0's scrawny butt with BOTH telepromters tied behind his back.
502 posted on 12/03/2011 8:04:24 PM PST by Impala64ssa
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To: CGalen

By which you mean Huntsman and Santorum?


503 posted on 12/03/2011 8:14:25 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: God luvs America
Reality requires certain actions. It's not what is done but who does it that makes an action evil.

504 posted on 12/03/2011 8:25:25 PM PST by I see my hands (The old sod ne'er shall be forgot.)
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To: R0CK3T
Eventually (soon) the left will cite Cain's failure as evidence of white conservative racism.

505 posted on 12/03/2011 8:37:55 PM PST by I see my hands (The old sod ne'er shall be forgot.)
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To: Catsrus

No, I don’t “hang a guy out to dry” because he didn’t tell his wife - frankly I couldn’t care less if he’s been shacking up with White the entire 13 years, and it would have no effect on my opinion of his ability to be president or my inclination to vote for him. However, the fact is he chose to quit after consulting with his wife, and I’m not naive enough to think that it was simply because a woman came forward with false allegations (uncomfortably coupled with true allegations that he secretly supported her financially for an extended period of time). I don’t think Gloria’s naive either.


506 posted on 12/03/2011 8:47:09 PM PST by Magic Fingers
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To: mandaladon

Cain’s “suspension of his campaign” will only embolden the liberal smear machine to go out and commit similar acts of personal destruction against the other candidates. Liberals cannot just settle for defeating their opponents politically; the MUST destroy them personally.

The left cannot settle for political victory. They NEED top destroy their opponents’ lives. Otherwise, they’re never completely satisfied.

Liberalism is founded in contempt for other people, thus the need to destroy people personally if they poke their head above water. Especially minorities, whom the libs view as their property. Literally.

What do you want to bet Cain’s campaign rakes in money in large amounts over the next several days?


507 posted on 12/03/2011 8:47:09 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: 21twelve

>>> Sad to see another good American get beaten by the press.

Make no mistake... Cain’s fight with the press is FAR from over.

Cain also said “I will not be silenced, and I’m NOT going away!”

This was his most forceful and strongest statement.

Cain’s chances at winning the nomination is severely hampered if not crippled at this point, but NOT OVER.

How else can Cain “not be silenced” if he doesn’t intend on taking the fight to the enemy? What else does he do?... go on talk shows to complain? Mark my words... Cain is going to sue everyone involved with pumping this crap out on the airwaves... AND... if he gets a quick victory, he will resume his fight for the nomination provided ample time remains.

My guess is that his lawyers advised a suspension for legal reasons so they can start filing charges and serving summons.


508 posted on 12/03/2011 8:52:39 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: dfwgator
"We will never win playing the “Republicans have to be ‘holier-than-thou’ game"

An equation in which the words "right" and "wrong" are not included:

smartest x most brutal = victor


509 posted on 12/03/2011 8:59:34 PM PST by I see my hands (The old sod ne'er shall be forgot.)
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To: Safrguns
My guess is that his lawyers advised a suspension for legal reasons so they can start filing charges and serving summons.

I sure hope to heck you're right. There are only two satisfactory outcomes to this that I can see: 1) Cain uses his considerable resources and connections to ferret out the truth and expose the lies and who is behind the liars, or 2) he 'fesses up and says "I'm human. I failed."

If it was a smear and #1 doesn't happen, we'll always be left wondering, won't we? And always knowing that good candidates can be torpedoed by vicious lies.
510 posted on 12/03/2011 9:00:25 PM PST by Zarro ("I'll never apologize for America's greatness." - Herman Cain)
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To: tet68

Which of course will be Newt.


511 posted on 12/03/2011 9:07:03 PM PST by adc
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
There was a poll just the other day showing Gingrich besting Obama. I'm sure other candidates can as well.

The Chicago Machine hasn't even started on Newt yet. Just wait.

512 posted on 12/03/2011 9:07:47 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Secret Agent Man
The weird part was not discussing it with the wife, about a non-family woman you’re financially helping out. That’s bizarre to me.

Not that odd, really. Herman Cain is a very kind and generous man. He is wealthy, and has the means to help people, and has helped both men and women. He hasn't necessarily told Gloria about everyone he has helped because it wasn't a big thing to him, especially if he wasn't diverting funds that his family needed to survive. I've done that before, usually nominal amounts. There was one time when I gave the single mother next door rent money because she had been served an eviction notice in the month of December, and she had just lost her job. She didn't ask me for the money, but I had heard about it, and I couldn't just watch her be put in the street with her little boy in the middle of winter. I didn't tell my husband, but he found out anyway when she came over to thank us and he answered the door. He confronted me about it, we discussed it, and I don't do things like that any more.

513 posted on 12/03/2011 9:08:15 PM PST by Purrcival (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: sport
Not necessarily too early for Axelrod. Here's why:

1) The constant meme has been that Republicans are against Obama's policies because we're racists, which is a bunch of hooey. We're against his policies because we think they're wrong for the country, and we could give a rat's patootie about his skin color. They would be wrong to us, whether he was black white brown blue yellow red green or pink with purple polka dots. But now we have a black conservative, Cain, who's off the Democrat plantation. The most recent meme has been that the only reason that many Republicans support -- or supported -- Cain is because we can point to him as "proof" that we're not racists, which is also poppycock. We're conservatives, after all, and we agree with most of his policies. We would agree with them just as much if he were white. BUT if the Republicans nominated a black man as our candidate, that would take away one of the Democrats' main arguments for Obama, that nasty Republicans don't want a black man in the White House any more.

2) If Herman Cain were the Republican nominee, he would split the black vote. The Democrats can't allow that to happen.

This, IMHO, makes Herman Cain a dangerous candidate, as far as Democrats are concerned. You'll notice that all of the allegations started to come out when Cain's performance in the polls started to rise. The neat thing is that if they do the setup during the primary, most people would suspect other Republicans, not Democrats. Brilliant! And diabolical.

Also consider that some have noticed a Chicago connection to the allegations. Chicago....hmmmmmmm.

514 posted on 12/03/2011 9:12:24 PM PST by Purrcival (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: NoGrayZone

Poor sweet furry baby. And I see you’re coming up on the first anniversary of her death. I’m sure she had a wonderful home with you.


515 posted on 12/03/2011 9:13:50 PM PST by Purrcival (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Zarro

You might be on to smething here. Cain said he’s SUSPENDING his campaign. True, historically primary candidates who use similar verbiage typically have indeed dropped out altogether eventually, but he has not said he’s dropping out at this time. It would indeed be great if his atty’s have a few legal tricks up their sleeves. Not to mention to put that William Kuntsler in drag, Glorified Allmeds, as Michael Savage call her, down a few notches.


516 posted on 12/03/2011 9:17:13 PM PST by Impala64ssa
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To: Purrcival

I still look for her when I come home, in her spot. She was my first, my beloved.

Her ashes are in front of my computer...which was her favorite spot (actually anywhere I was was her favorite spot). I’d look right, she’d go right. I’d look left, she’d go left.

The love never leaves.


517 posted on 12/03/2011 9:22:59 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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To: Sola Veritas

I see your point, but where was everyone when so many were trashing Gov. Palin after she demurred?


518 posted on 12/03/2011 9:26:40 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: Safrguns

” - - - Cain’s fight with the press is FAR from over.”

Court cases against the accusers might be completed by June, 2012. That would still give Cain time to build support before the Nomination in Tampa.

The worst thing Cain could do would be to “throw his support” to a currently active candidate, as none of us like anybody but Cain, and are not going to support some RINO/Conservative re-tread.

_________________________________

Thank you Herman for giving us hope, and a very high standard of intelligent Conservative plans to dismantle the hated Entitlement Plantation: Department of Education (1912, Teddy Roosevelt), Social Security (FDR), Federal Aid to Education (JFK), Medicare/caid (LBJ); Food Stamps (Nixon); No Child Left Behind (GWB); Obama”care” (Arrogant, You Lie Obama).

If your now suspended campaign is terminated in the near future, we will find another Conservative Warrior to lead us out of the Valley of Debt. We, the Taxed Enough Already, are the engine of revolution in the 2012 National Election. We will prevail, with or without you.

How you, Herman, resolve the pain and suffering to you and your family is a choice that we all respect. May God Bless you and your family.

BTW, MERRY CHRISTMAS!


519 posted on 12/03/2011 9:37:09 PM PST by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks NoGrayZone.


520 posted on 12/03/2011 9:43:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: a real Sheila
Now, I’m NOT condoning infidelity, but frankly at this point, I don’t even give a crap.

Well that will come in handy next year, given the current frontrunner we have.

And yes, it really does stink. In the (very doubtful) event that Cain really wasn't involved with any of these women, why would he cave in and "suspend" his campaign? Either the allegations are true or the man has no spine. Not presidential material in either case!

521 posted on 12/03/2011 10:12:20 PM PST by RDAardvark (Fast-forward to Jan 20th 2013, please.)
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To: warsaw44

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2011/dec/01/christian-newsom-families-see-more-trials-tears/


522 posted on 12/03/2011 10:14:36 PM PST by Falcon28
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To: mandaladon; mrreaganaut

I just got home after a very long day of flying back from my 6 week trip to CA and saw this. I am heartbroken right now. I had been looking forward to coming home and making a yard sign for Cain.

I WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER vote for MITT ROMNEY!!! I know way too much about him and how he works.

And while I like Newt’s speaking and debate skills and even admire his writing, I just don’t see how I can honestly vote for him, he has been too much a RINO for far too long.


523 posted on 12/03/2011 10:16:48 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: Safrguns
Cain is going to sue everyone involved with pumping this crap out on the airwaves... AND... if he gets a quick victory, he will resume his fight for the nomination provided ample time remains. My guess is that his lawyers advised a suspension for legal reasons so they can start filing charges and serving summons.
I hope you're right. Karma's a b*tch, but discovery is her evil twin.
524 posted on 12/03/2011 10:24:24 PM PST by Impala64ssa
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To: Melas

It’s looking more and more likely that on Election Day, I’ll either be writing in Mickey Mouse or spending the day fishing.


525 posted on 12/03/2011 10:37:40 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: NoGrayZone

It’s down to Santorum and Bachman.


526 posted on 12/03/2011 10:54:19 PM PST by RasterMaster ("To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: COBOL2Java

It’s BHO and the DemoNazi Party fault. Why do we keep letting them pick our candidates? They deserve our hatred.

They are succeeding in destroying our country.


527 posted on 12/03/2011 11:01:24 PM PST by KwHorn77 (The GOP needs to get some Nads.)
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To: mandaladon

Feeling very sad. This is a severe setback for America, and for our party. Newt is the next most electable ... and frankly, since the race for President has become such a popularity contest, I don’t think ol’ nose-in-the-air supercilious Newt can win that popularity contest against Obama. I just don’t. (Though I will vote for whomever the GOP puts up.)

And now I have to go take the bumper stickers off my car.

Dammit.


528 posted on 12/03/2011 11:01:40 PM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (Our GOP candidates: Good grief, is this really the best field we can put together???)
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To: Rome2000

Newt Gingrich: Hillary Clinton ‘Terrific’ Defense Secretary
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2010/11/newt-gingrich-hillary-clinton-terrific-defense-secretary/

Newt: Hillary Is the ‘Most Effective’ Candidate
http://archive.redstate.com/stories/elections/2008/newt_hillary_is_the_most_effective_candidate

Newt: Hillary shows courage, integrity
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7851.html

I can’t see supporting someone with such poor judgment.


529 posted on 12/03/2011 11:09:38 PM PST by RasterMaster ("To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

HUH????????????????

What I was trying to say was if you can’t stand the heat, don’t dash into the fire or something like that.

What are YOU trying to say? Are we supposed to support candidates for the US PRESIDENCY who duck and run from name callers???

If they can’t stand up to our own media assaults, what in God’s Name makes you think they will stand up to Hamass or the other evil forces of today’s world??????????????????

And BTW, I HAVE LIVED UNDER YOUR SCENARIO in Budapest from 1950 to 1953 so don’t give me any grief about lack of civil liberties or government sponsored spying and atrocities BUB, unless you too have lived it!!!!!!!!!!!!!


530 posted on 12/03/2011 11:19:53 PM PST by CanuckYank
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To: Graewoulf

>>> The worst thing Cain could do would be to “throw his support” to a currently active candidate

3 things on this... because it’s a good point.

1. It throws his adversaries off track... makes his “suspension” sound more like a withdrawal.

2. It positions him for the VP slot. You KNOW he’s going to endorse Gingrich. I doubt he’s expecting a shoulder tap later on, but it cannot hurt his positioning. Gingrich may have even offered the position in exchange for his endorsement... who knows... those 2 are just obviously tight.

3. At this point, Cain may very well not even want to be president, knowing that he would have 4 years of this kind of vitriol to deal with, impeding his every move. If I were him, I would be feeling kind of like the tiger who just got his tail grabbed, and drops what he was stalking to devour the dumbass on his tail. It’s somewhat difficult to focus 100% of your attention on two targets at the same time.

I suspect that Cain just got schooled on who the real enemy in America is today... and I think he just enlisted an army to fight this war if he indeed intends to fight it.


531 posted on 12/03/2011 11:22:19 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: hoagy62

My dead grandmother could beat Obama. The fact that she could do no harm is reason enough for a majority to vote for her. If Gingrich is the nominee how does he attack him? He has already copped to his skeletons. Romney, the least likely to succeed, would still beat him. Santorum, bachman, even Huntsman are very viable. The Billion $ should not cause anyone sleeplessness, after the primary the big $ roll to the winner. I predict $750K @ least and our candidate doesn’t have Obama’s record to defend.


532 posted on 12/03/2011 11:43:29 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: paudio

Lingle !

Yuck....she is like a female Ron Paul

The way she utterly failed to support Duke last year
totally showed me where she was at . Self serving , self-absorbed , controlling , and a glutton for all available funds for her campaigns and zero coattails for anyone else .

It rather vote for Ed Case frankly


533 posted on 12/04/2011 1:38:21 AM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

Yeah, Ed Case should change party actually. Will Caroll run again? :-)


534 posted on 12/04/2011 3:27:56 AM PST by paudio (0bama is like a bad mechanic who couldn't fix your car - he just makes it worse. Get somebody else!)
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To: dfwgator

Sadly we live as a nation filled with “double standards” bigtime.


535 posted on 12/04/2011 3:37:52 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: mandaladon

Not cool!

Herman, you suck!! >:|

I love all these guys decrying the media, barry or whoever for this. They weren’t sticking their tweeter into that other woman for 10+ years - Cain was.

If he didn’t do it, he would not have stopped his campaign. It’s just that simple.

His credibility is gone with me.


536 posted on 12/04/2011 3:37:57 AM PST by Rate_Determining_Step (It's in the Koran! Submit or Die)
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To: Purrcival
You make some good points.

We as Conservatives are rapidly are coming to the point in time whert we are going to have make an unpleasant choice,or it will be made for us. We [Conservatives ] will soon be standing alone.

537 posted on 12/04/2011 4:31:32 AM PST by sport
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To: Biggirl

Cain saw what they did her. He knew what he was in for. Hell, if a ‘credible journalist’ can say with a straight face that a sitting governor faked her pregnancy of her Downs Syndrome child to cover for her 15 year old daughter...

well, all is lost .

I personally think Rove was behind all this with Cain.


538 posted on 12/04/2011 5:07:26 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Rome2000

I always thought her husband was a little light in the loafers too. The fact that he councils people who are gay into living a straight life just confirmed for me.


539 posted on 12/04/2011 5:09:56 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: 07Jack
The '666' comment may have not been the best thing to say but IMO it was twisted out of context. IIRC she 'meant' the 'Devil' was in the details. And in DC the details mean everything. Pretty soon, like under an all dem gubmint Cain's 9-9-9 would become 20-20-20.

Plus the media beat Michele over and over with that '666' comment solely, or mostly because she's religious and they're all atheists or 'agnostics'. They just love to mock anyone who believes in God, especially Christians.

I 'kinda' liked Newt as he's undoubtedly the smartest guy in the room and he's 'found religion' and paid (repented) for his past sins. But his recent immigration blurb was a shot between the eyes. It was Perry's heartless comment v2.0. Newt just used the phrase 'we're humane'. (well sorry Newt, I'm not.)

540 posted on 12/04/2011 5:34:07 AM PST by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: mandaladon

Now if Cain had killed this woman in a car accident. . . . or left a semen stain on her dress . . . . and was a Democrat. . . .


541 posted on 12/04/2011 5:46:47 AM PST by 3catsanadog (If healthcare reform is passed, 41 years old will be the new 65 YO.)
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To: RDAardvark

agree.

Again,
so
very
disappointed.

I cannot help but think the GOP leadership was behind his campaign demise.

It also makes NO SENSE that Cain would run and be subject to a “complete rectal exam” that happens to “some” (Obama never had one) candidates, if he had this secret affair going on for years. Was he so naive to think it would not come out?


542 posted on 12/04/2011 5:48:09 AM PST by a real Sheila (golden retrievers rule!)
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To: TBP

I don’t believe so, simply because of the economy and the fact that he quit his campaign.

If he was continuing it, then perhaps he’d get a surge of $$


543 posted on 12/04/2011 5:50:10 AM PST by a real Sheila (golden retrievers rule!)
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To: Safrguns

I hope he does sue the crap out of a lot of people.


544 posted on 12/04/2011 5:51:57 AM PST by a real Sheila (golden retrievers rule!)
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To: Fiji Hill

Frightening. I think we’re on the same page.


545 posted on 12/04/2011 6:05:36 AM PST by Melas (u)
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To: mandaladon

546 posted on 12/04/2011 6:11:00 AM PST by Daffynition ( *Socialism, has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore it*)
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To: Jim from C-Town

So I don’t get into a suicidal depression, I keep repeating: *Obama is unelectable. Obama is unelectable. Obama is unelectable.*

I want to believe in someone.


547 posted on 12/04/2011 6:19:37 AM PST by Daffynition ( *Socialism, has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore it*)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I see your point, but where was everyone when so many were trashing Gov. Palin after she demurred?”

They were very wrong to do so, and I said so then. Before she pulled the plug, I had decided that Palin was my first choice as well. I have never been a Cain supporter, but I wasn’t a detracter either. Palin dropping was a big disappointment for many, as Cain’s is. I see no sense in rubbing salt in a wound.


548 posted on 12/04/2011 6:35:53 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: mandaladon; All
Look, any conservative candidate (or Republican in the general) is going to have to deal with the full force of the MSM slime machine.

And what dealing with it means, is very possibly putting country first, family second.

Freepers can bitch about that all they want. Bitching won't make it go away.

The sooner in the process we find out who's a lover and who's a fighter, the better.

549 posted on 12/04/2011 6:44:13 AM PST by Notary Sojac
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To: mandaladon

I think he realized that his campaign didn’t have the money to fight off the allegations... and still continue to campaign.


550 posted on 12/04/2011 6:46:46 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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