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Herman Cain Ends 2012 Bid
Reuters ^ | December 3, 2011 | DAvid Beasley

Posted on 12/03/2011 5:15:38 PM PST by lbryce

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To: paudio

It’s easy to take pot shots at Cain and say “he should have anticipated this” but perhaps the only thing that would do would be to have a repented Alinsky on your team who really does know all the dirty tricks from A to Z. As another pointed out, some of these women could have been stalking Cain. It’s unproven beyond a he said she said what Herman Cain ever consented to, let alone initiated.

Maybe the candidates could agree to share an Anti Democrat Dirty Trick squad, even if they disagree about the nuances of one another’s politics. If Mitt is last man standing, they won’t even stop at Mitt. Believe it.


61 posted on 12/03/2011 8:42:18 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: lbryce
If Cain was innocent he should have stood firm.

Irregardless it looks like we're going to have Mitt or Newt shoved down our throat.

What's your choice? A $hit sandwich or $hit pudding?

62 posted on 12/03/2011 8:46:12 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: lbryce

Cain’s “suspension of his campaign” will only embolden the liberal smear machine to go out and commit similar acts of personal destruction against the other candidates. Liberals cannot just settle for defeating their opponents politically; the MUST destroy them personally.

The left cannot settle for political victory. They NEED top destroy their opponents’ lives. Otherwise, they’re never completely satisfied.

Liberalism is founded in contempt for other people, thus the need to destroy people personally if they poke their head above water. Especially minorities, whom the libs view as their property. Literally.

What do you want to bet Cain’s campaign rakes in money in large amounts over the next several days?


63 posted on 12/03/2011 8:53:25 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: tflabo
I despise these nasty politics in running for office.

Get used to it. The bright side is that, unlike the Roman Empire, the political assassinations are only to someone's character. No one who is outside the political "club" will ever run for high office again. Too many people looking through your trash for that.

64 posted on 12/03/2011 8:55:01 PM PST by garbanzo (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine)
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To: VideoDoctor
If Cain was innocent he should have stood firm.

Doesn't matter. He was running for president and you can't spend all of your time defending yourself against all of this. Anyone still talking about 9-9-9? Didn't think so. You can't run a campaign like that. Sorry, but the smear job worked this time and he lacked the political acumen to dodge it like Bill Clinton did.

65 posted on 12/03/2011 9:00:33 PM PST by garbanzo (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine)
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To: VideoDoctor

I like the South Park one better - a [bleep] sandwich or a giant douche? I’ll let you decide who’s who.


66 posted on 12/03/2011 9:02:10 PM PST by garbanzo (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

There is no way Axelrod took down Cain in the GOP primary. If the Democrat machine could take him down, they would have pumped him up to get the nomination, so he was primed for a takedown against Obama.

What good would it do the Dems to destroy Cain now? Nothing. He was a weak candidate from the start (politically, fund raising, organization, political experience) and would have had a very hard time beating Obama.

No, it was one or more of Cain’s competitors for the GOP primary that took him down. If Cain was this vulnerable on these sex related issues, Axelrod would be salivating at the thought of Obama running against him.


67 posted on 12/03/2011 10:40:51 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (We be fooked.)
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To: MNJohnnie

That is nothing new. Proof is never needed to destroy a candidate. It is always the accusation, if stated often and loud enough, that is sufficient to destroy a candidate. The left has it much easier because the MSM echo chamber resonates very loudly.

But this has always been the case and is nothing new. Where do you think the old saw came from about “when did you stop beating your wife?”

The tactic of bringing down your opponent with unsupported accusations is as old as politics itself.


68 posted on 12/03/2011 10:43:53 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (We be fooked.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Oh come on... Any person who observes politics should have known that allegations about sexual harrassment or being involved with women not their wife is a common tactic. (Remember Ahnuld's groping?) Especially when dealing with 0bama (Remember Jerry Ryan?). They should have known this. No excuse for it. Even more inexcusable is the handling of the latest allegation, which Cain looked uncomfortable with. That one happened many weeks after the first three allegations. He should have come clean to his wife and people then, and the team prepared for it.

That they didn't anticipate better showed his team's lack of ability to operate politically. Heck, even when I was active in college student organization, we learned about SWOT analysis. As a CEO, he surely knew it.

Again, I liked Cain. I am disappointed that he fell for stupid mistake like this. Yes, it is stupid on his part not to see and prepare that things like this would happen.

69 posted on 12/03/2011 11:02:43 PM PST by paudio (0bama is like a bad mechanic who couldn't fix your car - he just makes it worse. Get somebody else!)
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To: Sun
Again, my issue is not whether he's guilty of cheating or not. My issue is his (and his team's) inability to anticipate and deal with such allegations after the first three. They should have looked at all possible attacks on that front, but obviously they didn't. His admission that the wife didn't know anything about the woman just buried his image as a faithful husband, as well as his campaign. Had he come cleaned to his wife a couple weeks ago, they could just laugh it off and move on--just like with the first three allegations. Instead, he looked like someone who got caught with hands in a cookie jar. In presidential race, consistency between image and message is very important.
70 posted on 12/03/2011 11:22:40 PM PST by paudio (0bama is like a bad mechanic who couldn't fix your car - he just makes it worse. Get somebody else!)
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To: dools0007world; svcw; mrreaganaut

MrR and I were discussing this just a bit ago. There are a couple of legal reasons to suspend the campaign, which doesn’t mean he is really dropping out.

The most notable is under CFR he cannot hire private investigators for certain things, if he suspends his campaign, then he can prove more easily that any money used to fight these accusations has come from his personal funds and not campaign funds.

Also, with a suspension, it will be a bit easier to fight this legally as well.

If he did this (and I don’t believe for a minute he did) then he was stupid to run and think it wouldn’t come out (GWB taught candidates to hire PI’s to investigate yourself and find all the dirt). If he didn’t do it and didn’t think this kind of stuff would happen then he is naive.

Personally, I don’t think he is either stupid or naive. However, even if he decides to un-suspend (this isn’t the first suspension of the campaign IIRC) then he needs to get some serious staff help in learning how to handle these situations better because it will only get worse.

Bottom line, the libs WANT ROMNEY as our GOP nom and will stop at nothing to make sure he gets it because they know it is the only guarantee that Zero will win a second term. Only then will the attacks start on Romney and they will be far more brutal than anything we have seen on here. Can you say “vegetables have spirits?”


71 posted on 12/03/2011 11:39:47 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: paudio

Somehow it didn’t succeed in taking Schwarzeneggar down politically. In fact “groping” was the least of it — he had a mistress whose family he was supporting on the side!


72 posted on 12/04/2011 12:39:13 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: paudio

It’s damned if he did, damned if he didn’t. If Herman Cain had a nutsy broad chasing his pants, he is only considerate to his wife to say nothing about it, as well as to say no to the nutsy broad.


73 posted on 12/04/2011 12:43:04 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: reaganaut
Can you say “vegetables have spirits?”

Fruitarians???

74 posted on 12/04/2011 12:44:19 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: reaganaut

We’ll have to see how it turns out. I just found it interesting and predictable that, in their quest to lynch Cain, the Marxist propaganda organs deliberately mischaracterized what he said.


75 posted on 12/04/2011 5:38:16 AM PST by dools0007world
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To: dools0007world

What it means is he gets to quit while still collecting federal matching funds.


76 posted on 12/04/2011 5:57:27 AM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: paudio

“They should have looked at all possible attacks on that front, but obviously they didn’t. ..”

How did they know that women from the leftist machine would come out of the woodwork with lies?

Husbands and wives often don’t tell each other everything, but that doesn’t mean that they are cheating. I’ve done it myself but am very loyal, as is my husband.

Palin was also wrongfully accused of cheating on her husband, and she handled it with humor by saying: “Have you SEEN Todd?”

Call me crazy (some do), but I need EVIDENCE that Cain was having an affair.


77 posted on 12/04/2011 6:16:55 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun
Allegations of infidelity is the most common thing thrown in political campaigns at all levels. If they didn't expect this in presidential campaign, they shouldn't have started in the first place. What happened in past week showed the reason.

Yes, husband and wife don't always tell each other all stuff, unless you are running for a president as a Republican candidate and run under the banner of moral principles. Any appearance of improper relation is enough to derail your campaign. Again, what happened in past week showed the reason. Again, it doesn't matter whether he actually committed affairs or not. It's the way he handled it that shows he's not ready for prime time.

If his team didn't know about this and didn't prepare his life to be an open book, I wish he didn't give false hope by running for the office. It's wasting everybody's time and energy since for sure the attacks from the left would end his campaign. And they did.

78 posted on 12/05/2011 2:03:15 AM PST by paudio (0bama is like a bad mechanic who couldn't fix your car - he just makes it worse. Get somebody else!)
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