If this story is true, then these troops who might (?) also be Marines have taken a much more proactive response to it, and are calling the regime's bluff. That takes courage.
It will be interesting to determine (if we can) whether this is an accurate account, and if so what the consequences to these young Patriots will eventually be. Obviously the courageous "Point man" is being made an example of, as is a common military practice. Another common military practice is to punish an entire Unit for the misdeeds or infractions of one or a few. If true, this probably isn't over.
As many of my regular correspondents and E-mail "Intel Loop" members know, I have been speculating for some time now about how an unconstitutional Muslim Stalinist usurper President may well emulate his Idol's historic tactics to assure the "loyalty" of the Soviet military back in the 1930s.
It was called the "Great Purge", and it wasn't pretty.
So I'm an alarmist and conspiracy theorist... OK; ...but I will be greatly blessed and relieved (again, assuming veracity of this story) if those brave, patriotic American Warriors are still "among us" being seen and heard from a year from now.
Okay, so what happened at Kent State?
Post # 57 at the link say the General in charge of the CA Nat’l Guard insists this never happened.
What would you expect him to say?
This requires more investigation and sunshine.
The oath is to “...protect and defend the constitution...”, not “congress, the president, or inside the beltway”.
It appears our young military folks are far better acquainted with the constitution than are the low lifes in D.C.
Beware, politicians...you have not corrupted all of our folks ...yet.
As for Kent State, those folks should not have been there...and they obviously were not well briefed. Try looking at LBJ, a master felon if there ever was one.
When I served in the US Navy, we were taught that it was our obligation and duty to refuse to obey an illegal order.
The responsibility for this should be laid where it deserves: directly on the US Congress.
The problem as I see it: Obama is bringing in hundreds of thousands of Muslims as refugees. We have a southern border that actually no longer exists and millions of people who hate the USA are flooding into our nation. Our DOJ will not protect the civil rights of whites, Christians or Jews.
We are being set up.
This is actually an interesting question that I have been expecting to see come up. A lot of speculation has been aimed at what the National Guard or the military would do if, for example, Americans were to revolt against their government.
While the “sample size” is pretty small, it does provide some insight into the way that the military feels toward American civilians.
One respondent to this post asked about Kent State. Kent State occurred in a totally different environment and a very different set of circumstances. The Vietnam War had been so propagandized and denigrated by the media, John Kerry, Jane Fonda and Walter Cronkite as an “unpopular war” that all of the military men and women of the day were equally denigrated by the American public. It didn’t matter if a serviceman or woman had actually served in Vietnam, if they wore a uniform, they were guilty.
Today’s military enjoy the benefit of being wildly supported by the public, even though the media still despise them. As a result, the environment is different. In addition, they DO have the perspective of time to look back at what happened at Kent State and learn from it. I honestly doubt that many National Guard or active duty military would be willing to open fire on American citizens today. Too many things have changed and are different.
Sorry, but this isn’t remotely believable.
This story doesn’t pass muster. Smells just like a fishy rumor to me. BS.
If this is true, I am deeply saddened by the behavior of the officers. SHAME! SHAME! SHAME! on them!
These officers took and oath before God to uphold the Constitution. They LIED! They lied to the American people. They lied to God! They bore false witness. They took the Lord's name in vain.
Taking the Lord's name in vain has far far far **MORE** deeper implications that merely saying, “G__ D___!” It means swearing an oath and LYING while doing it! These officers evidently had absolutely NO NO NO intention of upholding the Constitution when they swore before God to do so.
Exodus 20:7 “You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.”
By the way...I am DISGUSTED with our very highest military. When did ignoring Obama’s forgeries, identity theft, multiple social security numbers, failure to e-verify, election fraud, and other crimes become part of the military code of honor? How did this become part of defending the Constitution? Is **this** how they watch the backs of the brave and honorable troops serving under them. ( Pass the barf bucket, please!)
It was irresponsible for Oath Keepers and anyone else to report this without confirmation.
People can only form an opinion with all the information. There are too many that get riled up, only to find the story untrue. If this proves to be true, then I will be as upset as anyone else, and join action against this purported tyranny.
US Army, Sgt, 1976-1984
This sort of question always came up from time-to-time over the years in several different units I was in, usually preceeded by many adult beverages.
General consensus was that nothing was bad enough to get us to the point of shooting American citizens but such an event would cause working the way up the chain of command to find from where such an order originated.
There are no Marines in the National Guard. Only Army and Airforce.
I call BS on this story.
Whatever your politics, you break ranks in a battalion formation and lay your weapon on the ground, you are going to be doing rifle PT until the Sarn Maj, First Shirt, and ALL the Plat Daddies get tired.
And there is no way everyone thought this was was a good idea.
My wife’s brother, who lives in Germany, read in some newspaper from one of those eastern European countries that this story was confirmed by a Russian tree trimmer who overheard the house owner on a phone call to his cousin’s neighbor in Latvia who swears she knows someone who was in touch with a friend in California who witnessed the whole thing. It must be true.
2/3rds, pinging for your consideration.
This unit will be in my prayers.
With the current climate of most NG troops, I can add this bit. At a TEA party event, probably only a few would. At an OWS camp, most would ask for additional 30 found magazines.
As a current senior enlisted member of the TXARNG, I'll add this tidbit. At a TEA party event with the US flags on display, most would not carry out the order. At any OWS camp, most would ask for additional 30 round magazines.
One has to be careful how one words the question. The Guard is authorized to shoot looters, rioters, insurrectionists, ect.
But just so long as they understand that anyone who shoots at me is going to get shot back at.
You may want to weigh in on this one too.