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Holder to GOP critic: 'Have you no shame?' (Impeach Holder!)
CNN ^ | 12/8/2011 | CNN

Posted on 12/08/2011 3:59:58 PM PST by tobyhill

GOP critics cranked up the political heat Thursday on Attorney General Eric Holder, threatening impeachment and accusing him of withholding information from Congress about Operation Fast and Furious, a severely flawed and discredited federal gun-sting program.

At the end of a long, combative day of testimony before the Republican-controlled House Judiciary Committee, California GOP Rep. Darrell Issa compared Holder to disgraced Nixon-era Attorney General John Mitchell.

Holder shot back by comparing Issa to Sen. Joe McCarthy, the infamous Wisconsin Republican censured by the Senate in 1954 for leading what critics called a Communist witch hunt.

"As they said in the McCarthy hearings, have you no shame?" asked Holder, referencing a famous retort to McCarthy.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; dojwithoutshame; fandfhearing; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; haveyounoshame; holder; holder4holder; holdervsamerica; holdervsconstitution; obama
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To: tobyhill

Holder is going to be the catalyst for the next hot civil war in America. He and all the idiots blocking for him.


21 posted on 12/08/2011 4:18:28 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Israel is real:))
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To: tobyhill

I am surprised that Holder did not call Issa a racist.....yet.


22 posted on 12/08/2011 4:20:46 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: tobyhill

Mr. Holder, it is you who has no shame, you lying, stinking, agent murdering, communist traitor.


23 posted on 12/08/2011 4:21:16 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: tobyhill

The guy’s an idiot. He compares a search for communists to an investigation of a program that Holder already admitted does exist and did make gross errors of judgment, and did result in the murder of hundreds, and did have his department presenting evidence that it knew was false?

Is he kidding?

No one is being “unfairly hounded” as the urban legend about the McCarthy hearings would interpret his meaning. (There really were communists.)

Someone IS being FAIRLY investigated, though.


24 posted on 12/08/2011 4:22:15 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: MestaMachine

In answer to Holder’s, “Have you no shame?,” Issa should have said, “Since you yourself are a shameless, proven liar, you will have no luck with the communist/Alinsky tactic of ‘turning it back on your accuser.’”


25 posted on 12/08/2011 4:22:18 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: tobyhill
These degenerate red communist sons of bitches have been crying "McCarthyism" for far too long, depending on the GOP Washingtonians to retreat lest they lose their perks, power, and position in good ole DC, Disneyland for the busybody's that play the political game.

Joe McCarthy was right, and before this is over, the CPUSA, and its apparatchiks in the Administration and Congress will be forced back under the rocks they crawled out from.

26 posted on 12/08/2011 4:23:27 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: All

Impeach, Impale, repeat as necessary!


27 posted on 12/08/2011 4:26:24 PM PST by outhousepatrol
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To: tobyhill
We know for sure Erica doesn't.
28 posted on 12/08/2011 4:26:47 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Holding our flawed politicians to higher standards than the enemyÂ’s politicians guarantees they win)
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To: tobyhill
Holder and his fellow comrades on the Left hate Joseph McCarthy because he chased real communist villains, soulmates of the Left.
29 posted on 12/08/2011 4:28:59 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: sappy
Funny that the world says so little about the Verona cables. But as Seymour Lipset says in “It Didn't Happen Here” the Communists were part of the New Deal Coalition. They were everywhere in the government, from the White House to the smallest government agencies, and of course were part of the Manhattan project. Why this historic commonplace is so little discussed, even by Conservatives, is instructive. They remain embarrassed by the collapse of the Soviet Union. I suppose it chills them that the total power they seek ended in such failure. But we tend to forget that the Communist Party in China continues to maintain itself in power by similar means. But how long can a dictatorship of the Proletariat sustain itself?
30 posted on 12/08/2011 4:29:28 PM PST by RobbyS (Viva Christus Rex.)
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To: tobyhill

“The intent of the operation was to monitor the flow of weapons to their ultimate destination”.

Sure, and Janet Reno only burned the children at WACO to save them!

The intent was clearly to create a crises to support suborning the second amendment.
That effort has had limited success, BATFE now requires Fed. reporting of “Multiple” long gun sales in border states.

Such requirements always expand, now they have their foot in the door!


31 posted on 12/08/2011 4:29:51 PM PST by Loyal Sedition
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To: tobyhill

If these guys had been Republicans, they would all be under indictment.


32 posted on 12/08/2011 4:30:49 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: tobyhill

Holder won’t prosecute the Black Panthers for intimidating white voters in Philadelphia, and he’s got the nerve to say, “Have you no shame?”

Talk about the pot calling the kettle “black.”

And if that’s racist, GOOD!


33 posted on 12/08/2011 4:32:24 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (The "Occupy Wall Street" losers should try occupying their local employment office. GET A JOB!)
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To: tobyhill

Holder can’t even get the quote correct from Welch to McCarthy-— it was “at long last, sir, have you no sense decency?”.

Had Holder asked this, he could not have asked it or quoted it— because the questioning about this Fast and Furious is INDEED decent, and justified— to answer for the death of a federal agent with guns purchased by the federal govt. and “walked” to Mexico.


34 posted on 12/08/2011 4:33:54 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: tobyhill
Why not a civil lawsuit against government employees doing Fast and Furious?

Federal employees do not get guaranteed immunity. That is my understanding as citizens fought individual HUD employees and won.

Activists attract HUD thought police - how the Clinton administration is opposing people who fight against homeless shelters and halfway houses in their neighborhoods

It is my understanding that federal employees can be held accountable based upon press reports that I read regarding court decisions of which this Circuit court decision is one.

To wit, "[the harassed and persecuted citizens] filed this civil rights action alleging that the investigation conducted by the HUD officials in San Francisco violated their First Amendment rights. The officials argue that they were required by the Fair Housing Act to investigate whether the neighbors had filed a lawsuit in state court with an unlawful discriminatory motive. At the very least, they argue, they are entitled to qualified immunity. The district court denied the officials' motion for summary judgment on the issue of qualified immunity, entered partial summary judgment in favor of the neighbors on the issue of liability, and dismissed as moot the neighbors' claim for declaratory and injunctive relief. Only the issue of damages remains for trial.1 We affirm the district court in all respects."

If not civil what about criminal liability? From and Internet source: "At law, an accomplice is a person who actively participates in the commission of a crime, even though they take no part in the actual criminal offense. For example, in a bank robbery, the person who points the gun at the teller and asks for the money is guilty of armed robbery. However, anyone else directly involved in the commission of the crime, such as the lookout or the getaway car driver, is an accomplice, even though in the absence of an underlying offense keeping a lookout or driving a car would not be an offense."

Who mandated that the murderers be provided the guns?

35 posted on 12/08/2011 4:37:13 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: tobyhill
"As they said in the McCarthy hearings, have you no shame?" asked Holder, referencing a famous retort to McCarthy.

"I don't know, Mr. Attorney General. But then, I'm not the one obstructing justice and withholding evidence."

36 posted on 12/08/2011 4:43:20 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Why, yes. I AM in a bad mood.)
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To: Paladin2
>"(Rush says it's OK to point this out in public now) "

I'd say by the way 0biC0m outed himself in TexKansas on Wednesday it's fair game now.

It's only news for those that were unable to think for themselves.

37 posted on 12/08/2011 5:20:30 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: RobbyS
>"how long can a dictatorship of the Proletariat sustain itself? "

Like the Matrix, it depends on how long they can maintain their meat batteries.

What else are we to the Godless?

They have no morals. They gladly murder their own children. Do you not think they will treat us as such?

38 posted on 12/08/2011 5:26:23 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: tobyhill

Question: Have you no shame?..

Answer: What have I to be ashamed of.. asking you if you are a liar?..
Because you did lie?.. We know you did from your emails..

I ask you again... WHY did you lie?.. Are you incompetent or a Liar?..
Of course you Mr. Holder could be BOTH!..


39 posted on 12/08/2011 5:29:25 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: tobyhill

You don’t need any shame when you are dealing with a crook and an incompetent fraud.


40 posted on 12/08/2011 5:42:59 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed Now!!!!)
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