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Gingrich opens up big leads in South Carolina and Florida [NBC/Marist poll - TEA PARTY POWER]
MSNBC ^ | Dec 11, 2012 | By NBC's Mark Murray

Posted on 12/11/2011 12:02:07 PM PST by Jim Robinson

"In a new NBC/Marist poll, Newt Gingrich has surged into the lead in Iowa, but Mitt Romney's big lead in New Hampshire remains. NBC's Mike Viqueira and David Gregory report."

Newt Gingrich’s surge in the polls isn’t limited to just the early presidential-nominating contest of Iowa. According to new NBC News-Marist polls, the former House speaker has now opened up commanding leads in South Carolina and Florida -- two states that historically have played important roles in deciding the eventual Republican nominee.

Fueled by the support from conservatives and the Tea Party, Gingrich is ahead of former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney by nearly 20 points in South Carolina. The winner of that state's primary has gone on to capture each GOP nomination since 1980.

And he leads Romney by double digits in Florida, whose primary ultimately ended up deciding the party’s pick in 2008.

“You can see why the Romney people are getting a little itchy,” said Lee Miringoff, the director of Marist College’s Institute for Public Opinion, referring to the Romney campaign’s recent attacks on Gingrich. Gingrich ahead “any way you slice it”

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Tea Party power

According to the two polls, Gingrich performs especially well among the most conservative primary voters.

Among Tea Party supporters -- who make up about half of all likely primary voters in South Carolina and Florida -- the former House speaker leads Romney by more than 30 percentage points in both states (51-20 percent in South Carolina and 57-22 percent in Florida).

Gingrich also enjoys huge leads among “conservative” and “very conservative” voters.

(Excerpt) Read more at firstread.msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Iowa; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: elections; florida; gingrich; hillbuzz; iowa; kevindujan; newt; newtgingrich; southcarolina; teapartyrebellion
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To: Jim Robinson

Megadittos.

1980 Reagan revolution = tea party beta 1
1994 Newt’s GOP takeover of the House = tea party beta 2
2010 Booting Pelosi from speakership = tea party 1.0

Newt’s current run is a natural progression of the same grass roots conservatism.


61 posted on 12/11/2011 1:22:25 PM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: PalmettoMason

>> I wonder if Glenn Beck’s head is exploding... >>

It’s time to ask Beck’s true motivations. I think he likes Democrats in control so he can bash the liberal Dems and the Republicans as no better. I think he fears a real set of solutions which might happen with a GOP sweep this year (considering who will likely be in congress if that happens).

The chaos seems to work better for him and his “business model.” There’s no other reason for a historian like Beck to be so ignorant of Newts conservative accomplishments in the 80s and 90s. Just sayin....


62 posted on 12/11/2011 1:22:25 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Well, maybe those years were Beck’s lost decades - when he was drinking muchly, and now he can’t remember?


63 posted on 12/11/2011 1:24:31 PM PST by jacquej
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To: Jim Robinson

Amen. Newt is the Rotweiller on Steroids against the Marxist Monster.


64 posted on 12/11/2011 1:26:40 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather ("Kick The Communists Out Of Your Govt. And Don't Accept Their Goodies"-Yuri Bezmenov-KGB Defector)
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To: Jim Robinson

After hearing NG the last few months, here’s my two cents: He’s getting his (conservative) act together.


65 posted on 12/11/2011 1:28:33 PM PST by Rennes Templar (God isn't into pain.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

“I’m curious to see how Newt holds up when the media really kicks in and goes after him.”

He’ll curl up in a ball and die.
He’s not very sure of himself.


66 posted on 12/11/2011 1:29:58 PM PST by jessduntno (The Republican elite hates him, Rove hates him, Boehner hates him, liberals hate him. It's Newt!)
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To: PhilDragoo
Newt was absolutely correct:......." no Arabic-speaking Muslims identified themselves as "Palestinian" until 1920, when, in rapid order this appellation and identity was adopted by the Muslim Arabs living in the British mandate of Palestine."

Finally someone's speaking out with the truth! Wonder how long before the ME leaders will put a Fatwah on Newt. Truth will always rile the liars....always.

67 posted on 12/11/2011 1:30:15 PM PST by caww
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To: jacquej

>> Well, maybe those years were Beck’s lost decades - when he was drinking muchly, and now he can’t remember? >>

LOL, maybe so.

But I have a real problem with someone who is all over Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson and think they are so relevant today - but at the same time totally ignores what Newt did in the 80s and 90s. Sorry, not buyin......

Just sayin.....


68 posted on 12/11/2011 1:31:05 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I don’t know why you don’t want everyone to speak. You want everyone’s vote for Newt, what’s wrong with everyone having their say?

Yeah, the guy has a 45 year career, in Washington, he’s no outsider. There were a lot of people wishing to heck that just once, we could get around using one of the good ole boys.

Better to let people here talk about that little “job” he had .. you’re not gonna keep the MSM from talking about it if he gets the nod.

I respect Jim, but that does not mean I will vote that way because he told me to. Gee, let people voice their opinions. I certainly remember you voicing yours.

Whether you think Santorum, Bachmann, Paul or Perry have a chance is not what’s important. They have great views and their supporters have a right to say what they like about Newt and what they don’t.

I haven’t made up my mind yet and I can tell ya that Gov. Branstad was pointing to possible upset .. but that probably doesn’t matter either.


69 posted on 12/11/2011 1:31:13 PM PST by stillafreemind
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To: mamelukesabre

Santorum 12/10/2011: I learned what conservatism is from Newt’s GOPAC tapes.


70 posted on 12/11/2011 1:32:51 PM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: EGPWS
I wonder what the media is going to try and spring on him to shut him down?

Are you kidding me? MSM is fawning over Leroy/Newt. From the very moment the debate was over last night, their spin machine went into overdrive. Newt gets pass after pass, no matter how historically wrong, irresponsible and egotistical his pronouncements are, no matter how many times he has contradicted himself.

Look. If you want 4 more years of Barry Hussein, then you want Gingrich/MacPherson as the GOP nominee. Trust me, DNC is drooling at the prospect and evangelicals are complying with their agenda. Obama and Gingrich are two academics; they are more alike than different. They are both Big Government. Newt will turn off the prudent Silent Majority in the middle. And, as far as his "conservatism," that is a memory. All he has is 1994.

71 posted on 12/11/2011 1:33:52 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Newt says amnesty isn't amnesty.)
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To: stillafreemind

>> I don’t know why you don’t want everyone to speak. You want everyone’s vote for Newt, what’s wrong with everyone having their say? >>

You win brain dead post of the day. Nothing I said today - or EVER- indicates that I am against anyone having their say. When “their say” defies logic or skips pertinent history - I might just be inclined to have “my say” again and point it out.

But I never said anything - nor could I do anything - to keep folks from having their say. Brain DEAD!!!


72 posted on 12/11/2011 1:33:57 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: Jim Robinson; hinckley buzzard; tcrlaf; Peter from Rutland
However, I must say, I don't agree with mandated health care. Reagan was spot on on that one too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnLa1BvtaxM

73 posted on 12/11/2011 1:34:29 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: C. Edmund Wright

just sayin’ your blunt rude remarks could be taken that people that are still makin’ up their mind or people who are supporting a different kind of conservative might not be welcome to share their brain dead or illogical voices.

I’m old, but I’m not deaf..ya don’t have to be so mad or loud.


74 posted on 12/11/2011 1:40:54 PM PST by stillafreemind
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To: C. Edmund Wright
The chaos seems to work better for him (Beck) and his “business model.”... There’s no other reason for a historian like Beck to be so ignorant of Newts conservative accomplishments in the 80s and 90s. Just sayin....

Interesting observation I have also noted ,Becks need for chaos....not that most news agencies aren't also as such. Becks continuing to mingle into his programs uncomfortable statements..and sometimes with a shrill worthy of being turned off or tuned out of recent.

I wish he'd stay with the history and such as he's very good at repaying that. But then he gets in this "let's everybody love one another" kick.....reminding me of the push for universalism and those who are pushing it.

75 posted on 12/11/2011 1:43:30 PM PST by caww
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To: SumProVita
along with his quip aimed at Romney...regarding Romney’s fear of stating that same truth due to... timidity!

Not timidity, but prudence! Calling the Palis an 'invented' people in public is no more helpful to the situation than Barack Hussein stating publicly that Israel should return to the pre-1967 borders. Both Gingrich and Obama fail as statesmen in this regard. They are too concerned with throwing red-meat rhetoric to their respective bases, but it is irresponsible and infringes on Israel's right of leadership.

Electioneering at the expense of another nation's security is the worst kind of desperation and not something that Romney would stoop to.

76 posted on 12/11/2011 1:43:39 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Newt says amnesty isn't amnesty.)
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To: PapaNew

That’s one of the few things Newt has not explained well. The mandates that the Heritage Foundation and Newt and other conservatives wanted in the 90s was a mandate for financial responsibility - which could be achieved by a bond or statement or by buying health insurance including high deductible health plans (we used to call major medical.) It is based on the principle of self responsibility, a conservative principle.

That’s radically different from what Obama wants us to buy, where we all have to buy coverage with abortion and transgender coverage and where we can’t buy high deductible or HSA policies. This is based on the principle of government bureaucrat control, a liberal principle.

Now you may not like either, and that is fine, but they are not the same.

Not sure why Newt has not “splained” this as well as he could.


77 posted on 12/11/2011 1:44:12 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

He played the Washington, DC insiders game and was trading on his past as Speaker of the House. He was hired to give Freddie Mac advice on how to keep Congress as a financial ally. Newt was basically there for his advice to clients on how to start new businesses to get more Federal dollars.

What is a more valid consideration than a candidate’s most extensive background and history of ethics violations ?
Gingrich was the first Speaker ever to be overthrown on ethics changes turned lobbyist consumed by greed and graft who then lied about it. You seriously can’t make this up. Enriched himself on Freddie Mac political graft no less.

The temperament of a hypocrite and a spoiled brat running on a big government platform just seems to be icing on the cake for some folks.


78 posted on 12/11/2011 1:48:28 PM PST by erlayman
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To: La Enchiladita

Look...the media now knows if they don’t shape up then they’ll be sidestepped entirely. Newt grabbed the mike away from them in his first debates....called them out and when they persisted he lined up with Trump for a debate.....they got it! You get back in the mode of reporting accurately or we’ll all leave them behind in the dust.

How long they’ll be co-operative remains to be seen...their a dirty bunch no doubt and may yet come out swinging when BO hits the trail again.


79 posted on 12/11/2011 1:48:33 PM PST by caww
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To: PapaNew
Let's hope this time the "white-haired wrinkly (chubby) dude" can beat "The One Who we have been waiting for."

There are a LOT of "white-haired wrinkly (chubby)" dudes and dudettes here in the real America. And we are the ones who vote in extraordinary numbers.

Go Newt Go! FUMR! FUBO! The Tea Party Rebellion will crush the Kenyan Muslim Marxist and his minions. America will come roaring back in January 2013 when Newt Gingrich takes the helm and gets this ship back on course.

80 posted on 12/11/2011 1:50:13 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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