Posted on 12/16/2011 7:59:19 AM PST by xzins
I get your point, but disagree. The system is stacked against third party runs. Trump can’t win a third party run, and I seriously doubt that Perry would garner much more support than he is now. At this point it is doubtful Palin could pull it off. It’s a happy idea, but not one that is going to change the status quo, especially at this late point in the game. A third party run by anyone on the conservative side will do nothing but guarantee an obama win. In the case of Trump, I suspect that might be the plan, just as Perot’s plan was to get Clinton elected.
See #76
A valid point: someone who doesn’t vote out of a measured decision that none of the candidates deserves his support is indistinguishable from someone who doesn’t vote because he can’t be bothered to bestir himself.
I can't understand why there are so many who don't get that.
Yes, it's a lofty idea, but we can't afford another four years of Obama.
I suspect a lot of these "noble" people pushing this aren't so noble at all and are counting on the stupidity of the People-Magazine-reading, Kardashian-watching general public to help usher the Usurper back in.
Who is the Conservative Party candidate right now. Why would a party have to wait to see which Republican conservative is going to drop or lose in order to change parties? If the Conservative Party is going to be viable, it will take getting the candidates and organization to compete with the Republican Party and the Democratic Party before the end of the fourth quarter. The Conservative Party will compete against the Republican Party, leaving the Democratic Party to enjoy a divided enemy. ...If conservatives are serious about winning elections and controlling politics in Washington they will have to do the work to become the Republican establishment. The Tea Party is a good start, if we don’t get divided and run out of energy.
My point was that everyone, even this writer, ‘forgets’ about Wallace, and how his segregationist campaign pulled away Democrat voters. Revisionists want to forget Wallace ever existed, and that segregationists were all Democrats.
You are absolutely correct, Allegra. Their point may seem *lofty* but it is something contrary to basic common sense...dressed up as a lofty good.
“It’s the first effect of not believing in God that you lose your common sense and can’t see things as they are.” GK Chesterton
( ‘believing in’ could also be ‘trusting in’ )
The root problem of this nation is that MANY no longer seek HIS wisdom...and, inevitably, end up seeking a type of human perfection. THAT is a hopeless search.
What did he say? I missed the debate.
If you can't appreciate the pure beauty of the violin after hearing this, something's wrong with your ears.
Or you can get raw with these strings.
How about this gamechanger from America's Got Talent (which they SHOULD have won).
Either way, the violin is sweet yet lethal.
Do it!
There will be four major candidacies, and a host of minor ones.
The winner will have less than 40% of the vote, and the result will usher in a period of tremendous instability.
By the way, I think a conservative "third party" is a very good idea should Romney prevail, but I don't think he will.
So you had rather help re-elect Obama than vote for Romney. But this is strictly academic anyhow because Romney will not be the nominee, I pray,
Agree with your assessment and it just seems absolutely hatred for this republic to not vote, write-in or third party when it will help ensure Obama’s re-election. Just plain damned ignorant. It is their right but rights don’t mean they are right or intelligent.
This thread is long-gone, but I still owe you a reply.
I agree that Mitt is not our (meaning GOP's) best choice. That said, if he wins the nom, then he still has a better chance of winning than any third party spoiler.
I recall pleading, pleading with my friends and acquaintances that Ross Perot had no chance, but WOULD hand Clinton a victory, if people did not realize that they were being conned and gamed with third party performance.
All of them told me how wrong I was (before the election) and all of them admitted (with due embarrassment) how right I was after the election.
My worry is a third party spoiler taking vote from fine folks, just like you U.C., that don't get their first choice during the primary.
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It is better for conservatives to take over the GOP than go the third party route. Seventy years on this earth and fifty years of political involvement have taught me the two party system is a must for survival of this republic. When we start going off into three, four, five or more parties will open our system up for all kinds of evil intentions.
1996 GOP Convention was disgusting for most conservatives to watch on TV and I have a bad feeling we are headed for a repeat of it unless a Conservative magically steps up to run. Of the top three Newt, Romney, or Perry I don't see one. Powers that be in places like the RNC should wise up and start talking to someone to run most voters respect. This election is the GOP's golden chance. They will waste not a moment squandering it for Democratic political favor.
I won’t be campaigning for Romney but will vote for him if he is the GOP nominee but I hope there are enough of us who vote in the primaries to get a more acceptable candidate. There is a long shot that a nominee will arise out of the GOP convention that will surprise us all. Of course, that would take a miracle but a miracle is what we need. This country needs a leader, a statesman, a patriot, a strong conservative like Reagan or Goldwater.
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