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U.S. Official Says Iran Will Find it Difficult to Exploit Intel in Drone
Associated Press ^ | December 18, 2011 | unattributed

Posted on 12/18/2011 5:11:02 PM PST by Hunton Peck

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To: Grampa Dave; BIGLOOK; LonePalm
The official, who could speak about classified matters only on condition of anonymity

I don't remember the part in the numerous security briefings saying it's okay to speak about classified matters as long as you don't identify yourself.

I do remember threats of many many years imprisonment and lots of $$ in fines for violations.

21 posted on 12/18/2011 6:30:12 PM PST by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: Hunton Peck

U.S. officials previously have said the drones have no self-destruct mechanism.

Thou art truly sh1tting me. How do you make a machine designed to fly over enemy territory, filled with cutting edge technology and you do not have a “bzzzztttt” switch in it?


22 posted on 12/18/2011 6:43:42 PM PST by Adder (Say NO to the O in 2 oh 12)
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To: ASA Vet; Grampa Dave; LonePalm

.....and then there was the part about cutting your nuts off.


23 posted on 12/18/2011 6:45:24 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: ASA Vet

The reporter probably wrote ‘who could speak’ instead of ‘who would speak’.


24 posted on 12/18/2011 6:53:29 PM PST by rocksblues (Obama, the biggest liar in the history of American politics!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Never underestimate your enemy.

Nearly every engineering and science grad school in the nation has several to many Iranian grad students rolling through their departments for the past 30 years.

If they can process nuclear fuels and are feared to possess nuclear weapons, then they also will have the ability in at least small numbers to dedicate themselves to such projects when they have been given over a decade of opportunity.

We haven’t done anything to redirect their volition.

If anything, our departure from Iraq might embolden their zeal.


25 posted on 12/18/2011 6:53:49 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Hunton Peck

This sounds like an excuse for having done nothing.

Iran downed an American plane.

So do something about that. Don’t explain why it’s not a bad thing.

It’s a bad thing.


26 posted on 12/18/2011 6:56:56 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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27 posted on 12/18/2011 7:04:21 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit)
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To: Tupelo
Photos I have seen on the “news” show the craft to be in pristine shape.

One word: Bondo.

28 posted on 12/18/2011 7:07:07 PM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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Bondo? Bondo.
29 posted on 12/18/2011 7:13:09 PM PST by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTYER but no longer a Republican)
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To: BIGLOOK; ASA Vet; Grampa Dave
.....and then there was the part about cutting your nuts off.

In the Navy they threaten to use you for shark bait. Three guesses where they but the hook.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

30 posted on 12/18/2011 7:15:51 PM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: SERKIT

No. Weight, fuel and payload restrictions did.


31 posted on 12/18/2011 7:59:21 PM PST by pfflier
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To: Hunton Peck
No doubt Obama will instruct the Defense Dept. to provide the Iranians with an instruction manual - in Farsi!
32 posted on 12/18/2011 8:41:14 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Hunton Peck
I'm sure they're right. Iran will have a tough time getting usable intel out of the drone. Of course, once it's been parted out to Russia and China, you'll be able to find the intel on Wikileaks.

Mark

33 posted on 12/18/2011 9:31:20 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Tupelo
I am also curious as to why a super sensitive, super secret, super high tech spy plane did not have a built-in self destruct mechanism.

because real life is not a hollywood production...

34 posted on 12/18/2011 9:50:29 PM PST by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior firepower is the cure)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
So you imagine the FSB is just twiddling its collective thumbs, while Russian engineers and nuclear scientists pour over various nuclear projects in Iran?

Very likely that the FSB is using Iran as we used Afganistan and Turkey during the Cold War. Russian Spetnaz troops and Sigint agents at small Elint sites (shipping vans) likely line various hot US signal reception areas in Iran monitoring what we are doing in the Afganistan war. The remote area where the drone crashed is one possible area where they may be active.

The Russians would like nothing better than to sell Iran more mil stuff like S300 systems. Even if they have to take an initial loss, other countries will demand them and so arms sales will begin again.

The Russians and Chinese probabally have either stolen most of the tech or have things comparable or better.

So the Russians force the drone down in such a way that US cannot tell if it was forced down or malfunctioned. The Iranians immediately demand Russia give them the mil tech in exchage for drone access. (Which they have now done with Yakout missile systems).

The Russian arms companies will be back in business again with the latest mil tech for export to other countries demanding S300s and Yakouts.

Devious I know, but these Russians do not think as most, deviousness is a way of life.

35 posted on 12/19/2011 5:11:33 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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“So you imagine the FSB is just twiddling its collective thumbs, while Russian engineers and nuclear scientists pour over various nuclear projects in Iran?”

I don’t believe they are twiddling their thumbs. Nor the Chinese, nor the Norks or anyone who is working against the US. However, in saying that, I still assume the Russians are working against the Chinese who is working against whomever.

So who is the Iranians main benefactor?


36 posted on 12/19/2011 8:02:35 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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I’m saving these remarks to show my Trophy Bride of 50+ years the next time she gets poed that I will not tell her anything that was classified and I was in the ‘Need to know Loop’!

“The official, who could speak about classified matters only on condition of anonymity”

‘I don’t remember the part in the numerous security briefings saying it’s okay to speak about classified matters as long as you don’t identify yourself.

I do remember threats of many many years imprisonment and lots of $$ in fines for violations.’

‘.....and then there was the part about cutting your nuts off.’

‘In the Navy they threaten to use you for shark bait. Three guesses where they but the hook.’


37 posted on 12/19/2011 8:28:41 AM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Grampa Dave
Glad to be of service.

Thank you for your interest in National Defense.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

38 posted on 12/19/2011 9:33:41 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

So who is the Iranians main benefactor?

Russia is the hands down benefactor: large scale profits from nuclear reactors, mil gear, etc. The Chinese get the oil.

The Russians and the Chinese renewed their mutual defense pact some years back.

The Chinese have their Super 863 Project: the search for the next super weapon - data acquired via espionage in all countries; Project 921 for human space flight and a permanent space station.


39 posted on 12/19/2011 6:30:34 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: SERKIT

Do these drones have such a mechanism?
If so, one has to wonder WHY it was not used.


40 posted on 01/06/2012 6:39:38 AM PST by a real Sheila (Taylor/Fife 2012)
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