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Is America On The Verge Of Irrelevance? (The view from Europe?)
Worldcrunch / Die Welt ^ | December 21, 2011 | Alan Posener

Posted on 12/21/2011 10:34:56 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 12/21/2011 10:34:58 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wishful thinking on the part of the Euros. If we become irrelevant, Europe becomes part of the caliphate (and irrelevant).


2 posted on 12/21/2011 10:36:56 AM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was going to post a comment but decided it wasn’t worth my time.

I was then that I realized just how irrelevant THEY are.

Who cares what they think!!!


3 posted on 12/21/2011 10:40:02 AM PST by NeilGus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course not.


4 posted on 12/21/2011 10:40:58 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That future Caliphate called Europe is calling us irrelevant? I have great faith that the American people will get their act together and we will turn things around. That’s likely to start in about a year. Who in their right mind expects Europe to do so. Not me.


5 posted on 12/21/2011 10:41:47 AM PST by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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We are on the verge of irrelevance. Progressives have infiltrated and perverted all levels of American government and society, and are twisting and contorting everything they touch to make us more like Europe. The best, perhaps only hope that I can see is the Tea Party, which is filled with people who routinely ask the question “how did we get here”. And thankfully, there’s enough information available to easily answer that question. We Americans have always performed the best when we have had our backs up against the wall.


6 posted on 12/21/2011 10:43:17 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica (What's the best way to reach a you tube generation? Put it on you tube!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You’re-a-pee-on or European. You pick.


7 posted on 12/21/2011 10:43:24 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Hmmmm, I imagine it’s like it is with many of us. We have a view of Europe that is skewed and they have one of us that is skewed. True there are elements of truth in both points of view. But the whole truth? No, not even close.

If this writer’s point of view is typical of the common European it’s no wonder they are always surprised at what we do here in America. They just don’t get us... and that is probably a very good thing.


8 posted on 12/21/2011 10:49:03 AM PST by The Working Man (The mantra for BO's reign...."No Child Left a Dime")
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Irrelevant? Okay, tommorrow, All US NATO Forces are to return home, all subsidies abroad halted, all ICBMs and ABM’s will be recalled as well, and all import of European Goods shall be halted...

While this administration is a disaster, anyone who thinks the US is irrellevant in the world is flat out ignorant. The issue here is they want the US to bail out Europe, the ECB is too weak willed and impotent to do anything... The great EURO experement is failing, and the players with stability are being forced to bail out those without...

If there is a part of the world whos relevance is questionable, I don’t think its the US.


9 posted on 12/21/2011 10:49:18 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Typical leftist Eurotrash mindset. I would rather be irrelevant than extinct which is the inevitable course Western Europe has taken.


10 posted on 12/21/2011 10:50:05 AM PST by chuckee
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The fact that a European writer notices that America is becoming less influential is NOT diminished by a stream of posters that bray about Europe being more irrelevant. I, for one, do not care how irrelevant Europe is, and continues to be. I care FAR more about the fact that our decline continues, and that we need to do something about it.


11 posted on 12/21/2011 10:50:15 AM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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Irritating piece because it’s so full of shallow misconceptions. Europeans understand America the way a 12 year old understands romance.


12 posted on 12/21/2011 10:51:25 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The gentleman that wrote this has a very simplistic view of America. Therefore anything he writes concerning America is intellectually flawed and not worth discussing.


13 posted on 12/21/2011 10:53:37 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: The Working Man
If this writer’s point of view is typical of the common European it’s no wonder they are always surprised at what we do here in America. They just don’t get us...

Exactly what I was thinking as I read the piece.

14 posted on 12/21/2011 10:56:52 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The further we stray from our founding principles and the more we become like Europe, the less relevant we become. But what does that say about Europe?

The bottom line is this: It is better to be in a state of 'becoming' irrelevant than to already BE irrelevant. At least we still have opportunities to reverse our fortunes.

16 posted on 12/21/2011 10:59:33 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% more sarcasm at NO additional charge...)
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“...I realized how irrelevant THEY are.”

Exactly so.

We have more troops, tanks, fighter planes, bomber planes, aircraft carriers, submarines and nuclear missiles than all of Europe combined. Socialism has raped Europe of its wealth, power and relavence. If we are not careful, socialism will do the same to the USA as well.

Oh, and did I mention that our military is comprised of 100% volunteers? European and Asian nations still depend upon conscripts to fill their ranks. So, which nation(s) is truly weak?

Piss on Europe and Asia. The USA bailed them out of two world wars, sacrifed hundreds of thousands of our citizens, rebuilt their nations from the ground up and then defended them during the Cold War, and NOW they want to throw shiite at as like a bunch of monkeys in the zoo?

Again, piss on Europe, Asia and the Middle East! They are a bunch fugging, worthless freeloading grifters and they should be on their knees thanking the USA for defending them, along with providing them with toilets, electricity, movies, television, newspapers, computers, internet, GPS, Rock n Roll, automobiles, airplanes, microwaves, satellite communication, solar panels, Levi’s jeans, hot dogs, apple pie, Coca Cola and damn near everything else that they take for granted. WE CREATED ALL OF THAT STUFF! (French food sucks! Chinese products suck, too!)

FU to the rest of the world, because without the USA they would all still be running around barefoot, ignorant, poor and destitute while living in huts made from mud & straw with dirt floors.

May God continue to bless the USA!

May God damn BHO, George Soros, ACORN, the DNC, La Raza, the ACLU, CAIR, Islam, socialists, athiests, communists, marxists, liberal elites and every other form of human scum sucking bastards that want to make the USA a failed republic!

JMHO!

Ernie
(I feel much better now that I got that off my chest.)


17 posted on 12/21/2011 11:01:50 AM PST by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Europeans now define their sophistication by how appallingly ignorant they can be about the United States.


18 posted on 12/21/2011 11:01:54 AM PST by mojito
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I wonder what they’ll say if Mitt gets it...or Paul!!


19 posted on 12/21/2011 11:02:33 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: HamiltonJay

I recall from a few years ago, if we pulled our troops out of Germany we could ballance the budget. Europe does not pay for its defense, the US does. If Europe paid for the cost of their defense, we would be OK


20 posted on 12/21/2011 11:04:50 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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