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1 posted on 12/23/2011 8:03:51 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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Targets of opportunity.


2 posted on 12/23/2011 8:08:16 PM PST by DownInFlames
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Let the Chinese Navy tanks overrun North Korea!


3 posted on 12/23/2011 8:09:15 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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In WWII, the Japanese started strong. Up until Midway, they had one victory after another. However, the massive industrial base in the US could replace any ships or planes we lost, and we kept training pilots too. Eventually, we had some solid victories, and the Japanese could not replace either men or material, so they never recovered and eventually lost.

If -- big if -- we had a naval war with China, we might start strong, and have one victory after another. But we simply could not replace any material losses we might suffer. The massive industrial base in China could churn out ships and planes and replace whatever we destroyed. Eventually, they would score some solid victories, and we would simply not recover.

4 posted on 12/23/2011 8:10:32 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war. It's coming.)
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Chinese President Hu did not refer to any specific attack plan when he advised navy officials to "prepare for war." But preparation for warfare in general is the driving force behind the People's Liberation Army Navy.

This was a pretty limp ending to the article. All militaries prepare for war. And all political leaders try to raise troop morale by telling their militaries that they're not just parade ground soldiers and their role is a vital one. The difference with China is its pattern of armed clashes over territorial issues with half-a-dozen countries in the 60 year time frame after the Communist takeover.

5 posted on 12/23/2011 8:17:38 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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looking for a scrap? nah. we’re just devaluing our dollar... the same dollars we owe them

imagine if you lent someone $1000 and they paid you back a total of $250. how pissed would you be?

that’s what we’re doing to the chinese


11 posted on 12/23/2011 8:34:47 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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Mark Steyn, writing for Maclean’s magazine, recently outlined some startling facts regarding the U.S. debt:

“By 2010, about half our debt was owned by foreigners, and somewhere over a quarter of that was held by the Chinese (officially).

“What does that mean? In 2010, the U.S. spent about $663 billion on its military, China about $78 billion. If the People’s Republic carries on buying American debt at the rate it has in recent times, then within a few years U.S. interest payment on that debt will be covering the entire cost of the Chinese armed forces.
In 2010, the Pentagon issued an alarming report to Congress on Beijing’s massive military buildup, upgrading bombers, and an aircraft carrier research and development program intended to challenge U.S. dominance in the Pacific. What the report didn’t mention is who’s paying for it.”

Steyn goes on to reveal the answer: “Mr. and Mrs. America.” It is a sound biblical principle that “the borrower is servant to the lender” (Proverbs 22:7). The U.S. should be very mindful that the deeper it goes into debt, the more its resources will be redirected to those nations who hold that debt.


14 posted on 12/23/2011 8:42:55 PM PST by tumblindice (Cowboy up)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It’s 1937 again, but the old Japan is the new China —sort of.

There will be some manufactured incident, but the real cause will be OIL.


16 posted on 12/23/2011 8:57:26 PM PST by gaijin
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To: sukhoi-30mki
I've tracked and talked about their progress for the last 8-10 years, and have a site documenting it:


THE RISING SEA DRAGON IN ASIA

25 posted on 12/23/2011 9:10:08 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Anybody seen that overhead shot of the Varyag? Holy cow that thing looks wide enough for a drywall factory and a couple baby milk factories.

Looks like it will make a grand target. Maybe they really designed it to recover the Buran at sea.


29 posted on 12/23/2011 11:20:53 PM PST by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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Anyone curious about how many in this thread are chinocommie moles? Perhaps they’re taking anti china positions for now, perhaps they’re just practicing, perhaps they’re just lurking, but they are here, studying you.


39 posted on 12/24/2011 8:03:00 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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