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To: bayouranger; doug from upland; Nachum; Cindy; G8 Diplomat; AdmSmith; Dog; nuconvert; ...

Be careful about taking stock in a supposed Israeli-Turkey conflict, they are cooperating very closely. Where does anyone think Israeli Air Forces would refuel and get overflight permission on a flight plan to say.......Iran?

Get out your maps, just sayin’.


4 posted on 12/28/2011 10:20:48 AM PST by gandalftb (11th MEU, 2/4 Echo, TRAP Force)
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To: gandalftb

This is more about showing the immaturity of Turkey’s leadership at present.

Oh, they took away France’s over flight permission of Turkey over the Genocide bill that recently passed.

Just sayin’


5 posted on 12/28/2011 11:11:28 AM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: gandalftb

Here’s more of their childlike behavior:

Turkey Aims to Limit France’s Mideast Role

Turkey’s military and political sanctions against France over the adoption of a controversial “genocide” bill aim to limit French influence in the Middle East and Caucasus, two important regions associated with ongoing ethnic and sectarian conflicts.

Immediately after the French Parliament voted Thursday in favor of a bill penalizing the denial of the 1915 events as genocide, the Turkish government announced that it would retaliate in kind with sanctions falling into eight categories. Four of them are military-related, three are political and the last spells out the cancelation of an economic and trade meeting.

In addition to the cancelation of joint military drills and joint exchange and training programs, Turkey has canceled annual blanket over-flight permission for French state planes and will instead issue permission on a case-by-case basis. It will also halt requests for port visits by French warships.

A very important detail suggests that these sanctions are not going to be removed even if France retreats from its position and quashes the genocide bill in the Senate.

“The sanctions will continue to be valid until the Turkish government says the opposite,” a Turkish diplomat recently told the Hürriyet Daily News. According to the diplomats, the measures will seriously affect French access to the Middle East and the region beyond Turkey.

“France has intense ties with so many countries in our neighborhood. It has military and other sorts of cooperation with these countries. They gained a great advantage in reaching out to these regions using the blanket permission we have long provided to them,” a diplomat told the Daily News. “Now they will lose time and money in doing so.”

Two of the Middle East’s key countries, Syria and Lebanon, where France replaced the Ottoman Empire as the colonial power after World War I, are seen as being crucial for the entire region’s stability and still have close ties with Paris. Though the turmoil in Syria precipitated rapprochement between Turkey and France, recent developments indicate that the power struggle between the two sparring countries will now be exercised in the Middle East.

“Turkey will do everything to prevent a meeting on Syria and other key topics under the aegis of France,” a diplomat said.

However, this development has seriously disturbed the United States since the tension is likely to weaken the international community’s position vis-à-vis Syria.

~~~Diplomacy is too hard for koranimals to contend with...they always lash out.


6 posted on 12/28/2011 11:21:50 AM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: gandalftb

Armenia.

Sure, they’d have to overfly Turkey, but then... they’d have to overfly Syria/Lebanon to get up there anyway.

Or if they go out into the Med to avoid ‘em, then they can fly to Greece and then up and over to Armenia.


7 posted on 12/28/2011 11:56:12 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gandalftb

You’re assuming that Iran won’t use Turkey for an over-flight to say...Israel. My impression has been that Turkey and Iran are lately best buds, even if that stream of refugees from Syria has gotten Erdogan POd at Assad.


9 posted on 12/28/2011 8:31:31 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Diplomacy is war by other means.)
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Thanks gandalftb.


10 posted on 12/28/2011 8:42:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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