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In Washington area, African American students suspended and expelled two to five times as * whites
Washington Post ^ | December 28, 2011 | Donna St. George

Posted on 12/29/2011 3:25:22 AM PST by Second Amendment First

Across the Washington area, black students are suspended and expelled two to five times as often as white students, creating disparities in discipline that experts say reflect a growing national problem.

An analysis by The Washington Post shows the phenomenon both in the suburbs and in the city, from the far reaches of Southern Maryland to the subdivisions of Fairfax, Prince George’s and Montgomery counties.

In Washington area, racial gaps in school discipline Study exposes myths about school discipline Most students suspended, expelled at some point Police presence in schools spur Miranda questions View all Items in this Story School days 2011-12 Get news, advice and more. Last year, for example, one in seven black students in St. Mary’s County were suspended from school, compared with one in 20 white students. In Alexandria, black students were nearly six times as likely to be suspended as their white peers.

In Fairfax, where the suicide in January of a white high school football player who had been suspended brought an outcry for change, African American students were four times as likely that year to be suspended as white students, and Hispanic students were twice as likely.

The problems extend beyond the Washington area to school districts across the country and are among a host of concerns about school discipline that sparked a joint effort by the U.S. Justice and Education departments in July to look into reforms.

Experts say disparities appear to have complex causes. A disproportionate number of black students live below the poverty line or with a single parent, factors that affect disciplinary patterns. But experts say those factors do not fully explain racial differences in suspensions. Other contributing factors could include unintended bias, unequal access to highly effective teachers and differences in school leadership styles.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blackstudents; discipline; itsdifferent; urban; zerotolerance
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To: kearnyirish2

The overarching theme of popular black culture is degradation. It’s a modern slavery of the soul. You’d be hard pressed to find black media themes that uplift.


41 posted on 12/29/2011 5:11:26 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Here is a good way to look at this.

Black Conservatives are Colin Powell, Condi Rice, Herman Cain.
Black Liberals are Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Maxine Waters.

The group of students that want to be the former, whether black or white are probably the ones who are going to stay out of trouble.


42 posted on 12/29/2011 5:13:19 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Control the media, you control its citizens.)
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To: Second Amendment First

But then Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be out of a job.


43 posted on 12/29/2011 5:17:43 AM PST by majormaturity
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To: Altura Ct.
Experts say...blah, blah...complex causes...blah, blah...disproportionate ...blah, blah..poverty...blah, blah... single parent...blah, blah...factors. But experts say...blah, blah...factors do not fully explain racial differences...blah, blah...unintended bias, unequal access...blah, blah...

Just who are these "experts", I wonder? Are they the same "experts" who advise the government to enact policies that have failed in education and welfare?
44 posted on 12/29/2011 5:18:13 AM PST by Apparatchik (If you find yourself in a confusing situation, simply laugh knowingly and walk away - Jim Ignatowski)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Trouble is the goal. Blacks are raised to disregard the laws and morals of non Africans. Those who resist the trend to return to tribal African culture are segregated and denigrated from urban black society.


45 posted on 12/29/2011 5:19:40 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: Doogle

“You will see more stories like this” (as 0’s numbers fall)

I believe you are correct. There’s nothing true, or insightful, or even honest in this reporting. It’s all garbage, meant to stir up racial strife.

But I’m glad the DOE and the Just Us Dep’t *experts* are busy looking for solutions, aren’t you?

They are like doctors, examining a patient with a knife in his back, spending all their time wondering where the knife came from.
While sending their nurses screaming for more entitlement daddy-money to make more knives so they can study blades more thoroughly.

The reporters, bureaucrats, and purchased teat-suckers disgust me. The lot of them!


46 posted on 12/29/2011 5:19:55 AM PST by spankalib (The Marx-in-the-Parks crowd is a basement skunkworks operation of the AFL-CIO)
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To: calex59

You might consider that you’re posting to a public board. For my children’s benefit I try to get them to read FR. It’s rare that kids get the conservative side of the media and the comments for the most part are illuminating.

I don’t wish to intrude on your liberty to use vulgarity, but that then limits the liberty of others to read thoughtful and not vulgar comments.

Vulgarity is common enough, but it’s common because it is cheap and the language of the illiterate. A literate person, such as you, has a vocabulary sufficient to express any emotion without resorting to vulgarity.


47 posted on 12/29/2011 5:25:32 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Second Amendment First
Another piece of Birdcage Liner from the Wash Compost.
[These 'reporters' and the so-called 'experts' cited are utterly clueless.]

So let me take a stab(pun intended) at why there's a 'punishment disparity'.

  1. Mommy is in jail - drugs, prostitution, robbery - so they're being 'raised' by Grandma or Auntie.
  2. If mommy is home, their 'baby daddy' isn't. He's in jail or soon will be.
  3. They were 'disrespected' and had to respond.
  4. School is a 'white thing'.
  5. Hip-hop 'culture'. ('nuff said.)
But prolly the biggest reason, which cannot be said, or even thought of, is that the majority of Blacks in 'da hood' are Racists. It's inbred, taught to them from day one that 'whitey owes them for everything'. That whitey is 'da man' and is still 'holding them down' so 'The Rules of Whitey' do not apply to them. They are 'owed' anything and everything.

Hey Mr Holder, want to have that 'conversation on Race' now? Call me at your convenience, like when you're not running illegal guns to drug cartels or flaunting the constitution and the laws 'you don't like'.

BTW 'Eric'. Me thinks YOU'RE the 'race coward'.


48 posted on 12/29/2011 5:26:12 AM PST by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: Thebaddog
"My kids are told by me to do what the teacher says"

This must be part of what they tout as "whites do not understand the Black Culture". That's true, to a large extent, in that 75% of Black children are born "without fathers", and are born regularly to entitle the mother to increased income for per-child entitlement handouts, and are sent to school ONLY because it's required. Then, they grow up in "Da Hood", to learn how to use the system just like their unknown fathers, living a parasitic, non-productive lifestyle, while screaming "Racism" whenever they break the rules and are made to pay the price (which is becoming very, very rare, as Lawsuits make enforcement on Minorities VERY difficult).

As another poster mentions, they are NOT equally doled out punishment, purely because of their race, as whites are REGULARLY disciplined without fear of "Racism", while a lesser percentage of Blacks are punished, due purely to fear of being called "Racist".

49 posted on 12/29/2011 5:27:55 AM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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To: Altura Ct.

Excellent point. Human beings are just things to be acted upon. We’re things that act. We have choice.

This kind of determinism is racist in itself.


50 posted on 12/29/2011 5:29:16 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Second Amendment First

And in malls across America blacks are 10 times more likely to riot than whites.


51 posted on 12/29/2011 5:32:09 AM PST by csmusaret (The only borders Obama has closed is a bookstore.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Thank you LBJ for destroying the black, nuclear family with welfare and incentives to have more kids w/out 2 parents.

Fact: the father’s role is discipline, not the mom...the symbolic black mom yelling at the child holding her shoe or otherwise which Hollywood has perpetuated is a myth. That’s what it is, not what it’s supposed to be. Tyler Perry has tried to cover this, but still doesn’t even that well.

This is the fact...it’s a shame it has become racist to point this out. I’m white, my wife is black, so sue me.


54 posted on 12/29/2011 5:34:52 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: Second Amendment First

This is brought up every so often as an example of racism towards blacks, when in fact it only proves that blacks cannot behave themselves.

These same statistics are used as a racial attack against America’s criminal system. Nothing wrong with the system, blacks just commit more crimes,there fore there are more of them in jail.

Remember white kids are not rioting all over the country over a $5.00 pair of Chinese sneakers that sell for $180.00.


55 posted on 12/29/2011 5:39:47 AM PST by Venturer
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To: ClearCase_guy

The Washington Post’s greatest sacrament — ENDING DISPARITY. It’s just another form of Communism.

Equal Outcomes can never be achieved. But trying to do so creates a huge elite class of know-it-alls who Lord it over everyone else and destroy initiative for the vast majority of people — pushing a whole society into poverty.

Ending disparity = societal suicide.


56 posted on 12/29/2011 5:44:45 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: Second Amendment First
Foreshadowing the homicide rate they will create later.

Idiot Liberals pushing the "these kids are getting disciplined too often in school" line enable the above.

57 posted on 12/29/2011 5:54:44 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Thebaddog
I took an accounting class in college, taught by a very serious professor. He lectured facing the chalk board as he wrote & erased at the same time. Very serious guy!

One of my classmates came into class one day, obviously high on something. He was grinning like a jackass eating briers.

When the prof. asked if there were any questions, the buzzed classmate asked the professor, “Why don't you ever smile?”

The professor stiffened, & replied, “Get out of my class & don't come back”.

This is the way classes SHOULD be conducted. Those students who are obstructing education should be expelled immediately. Period.

But, I wouldn't want them sent home to watch TV & play video games. I'd make them do cleaning jobs on campus, while reminding them that menial labor is all they can expect w/o an education, so they might as well get used to it.

58 posted on 12/29/2011 6:00:43 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Second Amendment First
Black Americans are every bit as smart as white Americans.

That is not true. Just as Asians are smarter than whites, whites are smarter than blacks. There are several reasons for this, but it is true.

59 posted on 12/29/2011 6:10:54 AM PST by PghBaldy (War Powers Res: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/warpower.asp)
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To: Second Amendment First

Could it be that they are insubordinate and cause trouble at 2 to 5 times the rate of whites?

Naa, that couldn’t be it...


60 posted on 12/29/2011 6:12:02 AM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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