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1 posted on 12/29/2011 7:02:46 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Sorry bud. Paul is not an appeaser. He is a strict Libertarian who follows the Founding Fathers’ warnings about involving ourselves in “foreign entanglements”. It’s an economic strategy.

We are broke in case you haven’t noticed and at this point any time we get sucked into some foreign war, it further weakens us. So, no you are wrong about the motivation, and yes, Ron Paul has principles unlike the ruling elite who are all over the place.


2 posted on 12/29/2011 7:09:23 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Kaslin

Look for the “dark horse” Rick Santorium looking a WHOLE LOT GOOD.


4 posted on 12/29/2011 7:12:21 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Kaslin

You hit it right out of the ball park!


6 posted on 12/29/2011 7:13:33 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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8 posted on 12/29/2011 7:18:15 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: Kaslin

Dont really agree with his policy that we should do nothing and just let Iran have the bomb. But.. Can we afford a war with Iran? We are over $15 trillion in debt. We are on our way of going the same route of the Soviets...spending so much on our military while domestic economy collapses under the heavy entitlements.

We need to start considering the national debt to a serious threat to the stability of the nation. Now if you balance the budget and you have money to spend on the war, then by all means, bomb the sons of bit**es. But you know... I really dont know if we are any healthier taking out another multi-trillion dollar loan to take down a 3rd world country on the other side of the planet. Not quite sure the public would be in favor of that.

Its a serious dilemma.


11 posted on 12/29/2011 7:26:06 AM PST by floridarunner01
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To: Kaslin

I have long believed that by looking at Paul’s eyes, he is either as nutty as a fruitcake, or he self-medicates.


12 posted on 12/29/2011 7:26:28 AM PST by alarm rider (I took the pledge, I will never vote for another RINO, not now, not ever.)
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To: Kaslin
So lets see how this works. Get rid of the Fed,dump 5 federal agencies,live by the constitution all admirable things. Getting rid of the Fed not gonna happen dump 5 federal agencies not gonna happen with the impediment of a congress. Living by the Constitution as it is written. I only wish. Writing,editing,publishing or whatever the hell Paul did with that newsletter telling people how to kill black youths, other racist and anti Semitic rants. The Paulies go deaf when that's brought up. HEY PAULIES do you really think the American public would vote for this guy in a GENERAL ELECTION? Or should they? I've said all that needs to be said about this subject. Checkmate!
13 posted on 12/29/2011 7:26:38 AM PST by mk2000
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To: Kaslin
>>He is a strict Libertarian<<
...and a strict conservative constitutionalist.

The problem with Americans these days is that they have been led so damn far from the edicts of the constitution they don't even recognize it when slapped in the face with it.

Ron Paul as far as I can tell uses the constitution just as our founding fathers intended. A guidepost for all legislation and policy.

I don't agree with everything Paul says, but when he speaks about a subject, utilizing the constitutional guidepost I refer, folks have this dumbfounded look on their face.

Regardless of a Paul win, his input in this process is CRUCIAL to our freedom. There are those that want to shutdown this voice. Calling him a nut, loony and so forth.

Paul's positions are clearly listed on his website. I've read them all. Unlike many, they parrot crap they here without first doing simple research for themselves.

One of the reasons our republic is dying, instead of thinking for themselves, they act like lil parrots.

Paul's comes from a Christian family, served in the military, successfully completed studies to become a physician, then have served in Congress with a pretty damn good conservative voting record.

Win or lose, Paul is an accomplished, principled fella and as far as I can tell, the closest person to a true constitutionalist as I've seen in years.

16 posted on 12/29/2011 7:29:53 AM PST by servantboy777
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The loud ‘cheering’ for Paul at the debates and other places could be the ‘phenomenon’ of fan chasers who follow him much like Broadway ‘stars’ giving them the longest and loudest applause. Ron Paul is an angry little man and that in its self is dangerous.


30 posted on 12/29/2011 7:49:50 AM PST by yoe
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Ron Paul is a complete wackadoodle. Creepy wackadoodle! And too old. I hope he just goes AWAY! That’s my sincere prayer.


39 posted on 12/29/2011 8:18:59 AM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Kaslin
"The libertarian is a strange and rare little animal . . ."

Say rather, the libertarian is a Utopian fool. The failure of the Paulian/libertarian vision of social and foreign policy is the same as the failure of the Marxist Utopian vision.

Neither of those two flawed philosophies has the slightest understanding of human nature and, interestingly, they both make the same mistake . . . that man is a perfectible animal. It is also the vain assumption that atheists make. They simply can't understand that, given his own free will, man will take as much power as he can gather to himself and trample on the rights of any other to gain and retain that power (or wealth). Also interestingly, it is the same mistake that democrats (small "d") make.

The sheer brilliance of our Founding Fathers is that they understood the frailties and deficiencies of man and tried to set up a system that would counter those venal and corrupt qualities without hindering men's abilities to strive towards greatness.

The gravest mistake all those groups make is in assuming that men will behave themselves solely out of enlightened self-interest. Marxist believe that men will work for the sheer joy of serving the state and their fellow man. Libertarians believe that men will restrain themselves from dominating their neighbors, because it makes good sense to do so--both economically and socially. Democrats (small "d") believe that the will of the majority is always right and that they too will not oppress their neighbors rights, because it is in their own self-interest to restrain themselves. Atheists believe that men don't need God to tell them to behave morally.

Thousands of years of history has proven them all wrong.

Paul is wrong because he bases his entire philosophy on wrong assumptions.
41 posted on 12/29/2011 8:20:46 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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You’ve got Obama as President and you’re telling me Paul is dangerous? Give me a break........


43 posted on 12/29/2011 8:25:18 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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Jaysus, Kaslin, you really brought out the Paulbots this morning! Complete with indefensible arguements and ad hominems.


45 posted on 12/29/2011 8:29:51 AM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: Kaslin; All
For years a great deal of attention has been paid to 'racist' remarks published on a monthly basis over a period of almost twenty years in a newsletter bearing Ron Paul's name and photo. Paul made almost $1 million a year from the newsletter and it was promoted using his letterhead and signed, handwritten notes. What one should note, and what I'll provide examples of, is that Paul's newsletters didn't just touch on racial issues. They were filled with government conspiracy rantings, advice to militias, New World Order alerts, wacky medical advice, and a hodge podge of the kinds of things you would try to ignore from your crazy uncle at the Thanksgiving table - the one you've checked out of the facility for the day and placed in the far corner, with a bib and only a spoon, because forks and knives have points and sharp edges.

Paul's supporters say that Paul didn't know what was in the newsletters and that he says he is not a racist. Disregarding the fact that Paul's previous defense was not a denial of knowledge, but that the racial facts were based on sociological studies, the man demonstrated he can't be trusted to run a country, if he runs a business by turning it over to crazies for twenty years with no supervision or oversight while collecting a million a year, signing promotional materials, providing content (see below), and just letting the lunatics free on his watch. There is no Get Out Of Jai Free card. He was either incompetent or a raging nut case. And it's not a case of one youthful indiscretion. When he made these comments in the 1970s and 1980s he wasn't a kid . . . and it's more like a few hundreds indiscretions than one.

And the fact is Ron Paul didn't just occasionally write about race and he didn't turn the content over to somebody else. His newsletters were a written form of Attention Deficit Disorder. They never stayed on subject, sometimes changing the topic from paragraph to paragraph. They included first-person notes about his wife and son, his Congressional colleagues, his medical advice, financial invest (buy gold!), and world events, with contrapuntal notes about blacks, Jews, militia, Trilateralists, Jews, blacks, conspiracies, blacks, AIDs, blacks, how-to-kill-a-criminal-punk-and-not-leave-evidence, Jews, blacks, the New World Order, and blacks. These were personal investment and political newsletters from Paul that suffered from Tourettes attacks of an unseemly kind. Did you notice I mentioned blacks and Jews a lot? Well, so did Paul.

I've been 'blessed' by a friend with all or parts of over 50 Ron Paul newsletters. Some of you may agree with parts of these, but take the work as a whole. Remember it was written by a Congressman. Try to imagine that nobody ever said anything to Paul about this content and he didn't know it was being written, over a period of twenty years. Imagine trying to run against Obama while defending the soundbites that come from this stuff. Consider the juxtaposition of some of these comments (I particular love how 'buy gold!' pops up, including the "guy gold! those d*mn black! buy gold! segments). Or the "hey, I have a Jew friend and he done told me that them Massad fellas are the ones what blowed up the World Trade Center" segment. And for anything I have here, I have 100 more. Yeah, run on that, Ron.

(no, didn't look like Ron Paul had anything to do with that newsletter)

("I'm a physician and a Congressman, so I should spread this rumor about government-made AIDs")

(Keep those gay Republican colleagues of mine from having sex in the Congressional gym!)

(Faulty medical advice; BUY GOLD!)

If Paul wins Iowa, it's a black eye for the Republican Party.

46 posted on 12/29/2011 8:30:11 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Kaslin

I reject UN agency reports too. Am I dangerous?


65 posted on 12/29/2011 9:18:45 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Kaslin
To all Paultards.

You need to read Jim's position on Ro Paul


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Saturday, December 10, 2011 4:11:37 PM · 17 of 21
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Yes, Ron Paul is a whackjob nutcase Alex Jones truther. All 911 truthers can go straight to hell as far as I’m concerned. You too if you push that crap.

Post that nutjob crap here on FR at your own peril. I’m hereby giving the mods the greenlight to whack your account if and when you go over the line posting Ron Paul/whackjob truther nuttery.


FURP

67 posted on 12/29/2011 9:28:07 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Kaslin

We need a president that understands the Constitution AND the job. We don’t need an around-the-bend lunatic. Paul is a lunatic.


73 posted on 12/29/2011 10:14:08 AM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: Kaslin

I decided in ‘08 that Paul was more dangerous than Clinton. Paul refuses to acknowledge that jet planes and missiles make the world a different place than the one that George Washington knew.


81 posted on 12/29/2011 12:03:49 PM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org: Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Cut spending, now,now,now!)
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