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The Santorum Surge In Iowa and Beyond (How long can he last?)
New York Times ^ | 12/30/2011 | Nate Silver

Posted on 12/30/2011 9:04:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The extent to which Rick Santorum has gained in Iowa polling is not entirely clear. Although two polls have him with 16 percent of the vote, two others that were in the field at the same time have him at 10 and 11 percent, respectively.

Nevertheless, Mr. Santorum can make the most credible claim of any candidate about having momentum in the state. Our forecast model actually tries to quantify momentum by looking at the trajectory of each candidate’s polling and assigns him a small bonus or penalty based upon it. Right now, Mr. Santorum is benefiting from that adjustment, while other candidates like Newt Gingrich and Michele Bachmann are being harmed by it.

This is enough to move Mr. Santorum into third place in our projections. However, I worry that the model’s adjustment is nevertheless too conservative in this instance. Mr. Santorum has several additional factors that could help him in the closing days of the campaign. These factors will not show up in the topline numbers in the polling and therefore our model does not account for them, but this does not mean they are not important.


(Excerpt) Read more at fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: iowa; ricksantorum; santorum; santorumsurge; surge
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If Mr. Santorum were to pick up half of Mrs. Bachmann’s previous support, he would essentially be in an three-way tie for first place with Ron Paul and Mitt Romney.
1 posted on 12/30/2011 9:04:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

NOTE:

Nate Silver’s model currently gives Mr. Santorum a 7 percent chance of winning the caucuses, while the betting market Intrade gives him a 9 percent chance.


2 posted on 12/30/2011 9:05:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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It amazes me what a big deal we make of this caucus which probably won't attract 100,000 voters.

Oh well, I guess it's the only show in town.

3 posted on 12/30/2011 9:07:26 AM PST by evad (STOP SPENDING, STOP SPENDING, STOP SPENDING. It's the SPENDING Stupid)
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To: SeekAndFind

How long?
Until the liberal media and other republicans start ganging up on him.


4 posted on 12/30/2011 9:08:46 AM PST by pennboricua
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To: SeekAndFind

Before any Mitt bots smear Santorum, I’ll point out Mitt seems to be carefully imitating John Edwards’ hairdo.

Nobody likes John Edwards.


5 posted on 12/30/2011 9:11:43 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (ROMNEY / ALINSKY 2012 (sarcasm))
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To: SeekAndFind

Too late for Santorum. Maybe if everyone got behind him 2 months ago, he could have made a push. But now its too late. He doesnt have the ground game across the country nor the money to compete.

It’s going to be Romney unless Gingrich somehow stops him. That’s just simply where the race is at.

One thing the Romney and Paul supporters have that no conservative in the race has....LOYALTY! Conservatives will lose this election because they spent all summer and fall jumping from one candidate to another in search of perfection. Perfection that was never found.


6 posted on 12/30/2011 9:12:05 AM PST by floridarunner01
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To: floridarunner01

Have you ever heard the term “concern troll”?

Probably not, since you seem to have just signed up.


7 posted on 12/30/2011 9:15:40 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (ROMNEY / ALINSKY 2012 (sarcasm))
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To: SeekAndFind

Nate Silver. Check. NYT. Check. Intent to split conservative vote to get Romney. Check.


8 posted on 12/30/2011 9:16:54 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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Noot dropping like a rock, he will finish in the bottom three. Surprise, surprise.
9 posted on 12/30/2011 9:18:13 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and nervous supporters.)
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I’ve been saying for about 2 weeks it will be Romney, Santorum, Paul and Gingrich.


10 posted on 12/30/2011 9:22:10 AM PST by MomwithHope (Wake up America we are at war with militant Islam and progressives - 2 fronts.)
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do us all a favor on this Forum. Hold your breath until Newt drops out!


11 posted on 12/30/2011 9:22:20 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: org.whodat

I’ve been saying for about 2 weeks it will be Romney, Santorum, Paul and Gingrich.


12 posted on 12/30/2011 9:22:39 AM PST by MomwithHope (Wake up America we are at war with militant Islam and progressives - 2 fronts.)
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Nate Silver. Check. NYT. Check. Intent to split conservative vote to get Romney. Check.

Bingo! Check. Using Santorum now to split us. Check! Gullible Santorum supporters popping up today. Check.

13 posted on 12/30/2011 9:27:55 AM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Rubio 2012 with Cain, Bolton, Santorum, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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I’ve been saying for about 2 weeks it will be Romney, Santorum, Paul and Gingrich.

I hope you're right because Newt WINS SC & FL (and therefore the nomination) in that scenario.

14 posted on 12/30/2011 9:31:22 AM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Rubio 2012 with Cain, Bolton, Santorum, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: CainConservative

Santorum is another Duncan Hunter, without the experience.


15 posted on 12/30/2011 9:31:43 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: CainConservative

I disagree, that if Romney wins Iowa, that he will also lose SC and Florida. I see the very opposite happening.


16 posted on 12/30/2011 9:33:51 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: floridarunner01
Too late for Santorum. Maybe if everyone got behind him 2 months ago, he could have made a push. But now its too late. He doesnt have the ground game across the country nor the money to compete. It’s going to be Romney unless Gingrich somehow stops him. That’s just simply where the race is at. One thing the Romney and Paul supporters have that no conservative in the race has....LOYALTY! Conservatives will lose this election because they spent all summer and fall jumping from one candidate to another in search of perfection. Perfection that was never found
Might as well save your breath. Reality or facts will not sway the Santorum (or other second tier) faithful. They will glob onto Santorums projected Iowa performance as proof that Rick can win it - despite all "evidence" to the contrary.
17 posted on 12/30/2011 9:34:46 AM PST by TBBT
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So you think he is dropping out, I think he is selling a book and making money. How much did his wifes corporation make selling his mailing. List to the campaign, I seem to have forgot.
18 posted on 12/30/2011 9:41:59 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and nervous supporters.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

OUTSTANDING.

BTW there’s another Duncan Hunter now.

Duncan D.


19 posted on 12/30/2011 9:43:58 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (ROMNEY / ALINSKY 2012 (sarcasm))
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Never mind I found the amount, it was 42,000. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gingrichs-sale-of-mailing-list-unlawful-watchdog-group-charges/2011/12/19/gIQArh3s4O_story.html


20 posted on 12/30/2011 9:46:08 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and nervous supporters.)
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