Posted on 12/31/2011 10:00:30 AM PST by harpu
Is it too late to save the Golden State?
Yes. Let it sink.
I was unfortunately born there while my dad was on deployment. Anyway, let the damn place sink, ‘rats illegals and all.
A minor who is 12 years of age will able to consent to medical care related to a sexually transmitted disease. No parental consent and knowledge required. Lets remove the parents from the picture. The State will have ultimate jurisdiction over the childs sexual behavior.
Those are just two of California's new laws.
I think the handbasket has now reached Hell.
Let it burn.
Who cares, they like shooting themselves in the foot now they cant walk and they want us to support them. Ask hollywood for money thats your “rich”
California will never recover.
It will be fixed with the next quake. They are all destined to be quakers.
As a practical matter, yes it is too late to save California. We have passed a tipping point where there are more takers and taker enablers, than there are producers. So yes, California is doomed.
Any state that makes it harder to get a tan than get an abortion is too late to save.
Let them enjoy the fruits of their fruitiness. The state needs to go bankrupt. It’s for the children.
Teschmacher peaks!
The more important question is not can we save California, but should we. California was created as a huge state because very few people live there. Now it is the most populace state. To big to fail is too big to exist. California should be allowed to fail, then be broken up into two or possibly three states. Isolate the coastal nuthouse and free the interior of the state. There are more conservatives in California than Oklahoma, but their voice will never the heard so long as they are tied to the coastal albatross of LA and SF.
Otisburg!?
If the state ever does recover significantly, it will take approximately 30 years. That is roughly how long it would take for any public-pension reforms to begin benefitting the state, because it seems those reforms ONLY could impact “new hires.”
As to current employees, we have hundreds of BILLIONS in unfunded obligations to cover in the next 30 years.
DOOM.
There are limits to “sinking”, so it’s best to consider what to do to reform California once it is in the gutter. America does not need a “ghetto state”, nor do we need quirky Californian refugees coming to the rest of the country to spread their quirkiness around. Utah saw some of that and found it most unpleasant until the Californians packed up and left, themselves woefully unhappy in the absence of the quirkiness of others and the distaste of Utahans for it.
Perhaps the best solution for bad government would be to put California under receivership until it has been restored to order. The biggest obstacle to this would be their federal judges, who are among their quirkiest residents.
“Chapter 9 of the U.S. bankruptcy code allows individuals and municipalities (cities, towns, villages, etc.) to declare bankruptcy. But that doesn’t include states. (The statute defines “municipality” as a “political subdivision or public agency or instrumentality of a State”that is, not a state itself.)
“For one thing, states are said to have sovereign immunity, as protected by the 11th Amendment, which means they can’t be sued. In other words, they don’t need any protection from angry creditors who would take them to court for failing to pay their debts. As a result, states can simply borrow money ad infinitum.
“Say the state can’t make its debt payments, and no one will lend it any more money. In that case, the federal government can step in and put the state into receivership.
“This would involve the assignment of an accountant to manage the state’s debt, overseen by a judge. It would be a lot like bankruptcy, except instead of following a structured set of stepsinforming creditors, appointing creditors’ committees, a 120-day window to file a plan, etc.a receiver has the authority to force creditors to renegotiate loans in a speedy fashion.
“However, the accountant in charge would not have the power to make decisions about the state’s budget, such as which programs needed to be cut and which taxes had to be raised.”
This effectively means that in such a scenario, California would remain as dysfunctional as it is today.
But an alternative might be for the state to appoint a state controller to create a state budget that by mutual agreement by 2/3rds of the legislature would be voted on in a single up or down vote, close to sight unseen.
Once this was done, of course, every part of it would be challenged in court, so could only be done if the state and federal judiciary decided, or were ordered by the state legislature and congress, respectively, to keep hands off.
Public employee unions run California. Until the union-democrat funding stream is cut there is no hope for the state. Say hello to Greece.
It could, but this administration won't. They will simply transfer federal funds to the state treasury to keep it afloat. Lots of pro-Obama votes, y'know.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.